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(01-18-2017 07:04 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 06:28 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 06:43 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Seattle and Kansas City

But if it's done, the owners will do Seattle and Mexico City

Kansas City has a modern stadium, but two major league teams.

Louisville has a modern stadium, but no major league teams (though the Pacers are 120 miles away).

Norfolk/Virginia Beach (Hampton Roads) is bigger than Milwaukee, but has no major league teams.

Got that and agree with you. Their lack of an arena, as well as history, is the issue.

I thought the Hampton Roads area was more ripe for a MLB team. That area is a bit similar to Memphis, when years ago, WE were that place.

I'm sure if the NBA actually had a public expansion chase, a group from that area would come forward.
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Memphis is not the easternmost WC NBA team - New Orleans is.
01-18-2017 11:45 PM
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(01-18-2017 11:45 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Memphis is not the easternmost WC NBA team - New Orleans is.

True, but Memphis is closer to more Eastern Conference teams than NO is.
01-19-2017 08:36 AM
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(01-17-2017 06:43 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Seattle and Kansas City

But if it's done, the owners will do Seattle and Mexico City

Grizz need to be in the east and have a rivalry with Atlanta
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RE: Expansion?
(01-19-2017 08:36 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 11:45 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Memphis is not the easternmost WC NBA team - New Orleans is.

True, but Memphis is closer to more Eastern Conference teams than NO is.

Not true. By a razors edge Memphis is further East than New Orleans.
Memphis Longitude: 90.04 degrees
New Orleans Longitude: 90.07 degrees, thus further west than Memphis.

On another note, Memphis would also be the Westernmost franchise in the Eastern Conference.
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(01-19-2017 03:31 PM)UofMark Wrote:  
(01-19-2017 08:36 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 11:45 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Memphis is not the easternmost WC NBA team - New Orleans is.

True, but Memphis is closer to more Eastern Conference teams than NO is.

Not true. By a razors edge Memphis is further East than New Orleans.
Memphis Longitude: 90.04 degrees
New Orleans Longitude: 90.07 degrees, thus further west than Memphis.

On another note, Memphis would also be the Westernmost franchise in the Eastern Conference.

NOLA is relatively close to Houston. That pair should be together. That's one reason NOLA stays in the Western Conference.

Oklahoma City is closest to Dallas. It's unfortunate they aren't in a division together.
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(01-17-2017 05:46 AM)Dynamos Wrote:  Have they given up on the idea of putting teams in Europe?

I don't like this though. More teams will lead to a watered down product

Agree. It is already quite watered down.

Every NBA player is obviously good, but nowhere near enough are elite and you end up with a few too many Minnesota at Philadelphia games. Sure some teams are on the way up and things are cyclical, but there are enough teams now.
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RE: Expansion?
Surprised Kansas City isn't mentioned...they have a ready-made arena in the middle of basketball country. Definitely fits out west too.

Pittsburgh and Lousiville make sense, but they'd be in the East.

I'd say KC and Seattle.
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(01-17-2017 07:19 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  I don't think the nba should do it. The nba product is already bad enough without diluting it with two more team rosters. The nba only has a handful of truly good teams now plus most good players want to play on the same team anyways. Sounds like in the end, you are just setting it up for two more bad teams.

I disagree...the NBA is as good as it's ever been and yes, I was a fan in the 80's. this is to me the second golden age of NBA. Better shooting than ever before statistically speaking. Better athletes and more bonafied stars than ever imo.
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RE: Expansion?
(01-19-2017 04:48 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-19-2017 03:31 PM)UofMark Wrote:  
(01-19-2017 08:36 AM)oldmangrizz Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 11:45 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Memphis is not the easternmost WC NBA team - New Orleans is.

True, but Memphis is closer to more Eastern Conference teams than NO is.

Not true. By a razors edge Memphis is further East than New Orleans.
Memphis Longitude: 90.04 degrees
New Orleans Longitude: 90.07 degrees, thus further west than Memphis.

On another note, Memphis would also be the Westernmost franchise in the Eastern Conference.

NOLA is relatively close to Houston. That pair should be together. That's one reason NOLA stays in the Western Conference.

Oklahoma City is closest to Dallas. It's unfortunate they aren't in a division together.

Right...we are westernmost in terms of average mileage from other western conference teams
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(01-20-2017 11:49 AM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 07:19 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  I don't think the nba should do it. The nba product is already bad enough without diluting it with two more team rosters. The nba only has a handful of truly good teams now plus most good players want to play on the same team anyways. Sounds like in the end, you are just setting it up for two more bad teams.

I disagree...the NBA is as good as it's ever been and yes, I was a fan in the 80's. this is to me the second golden age of NBA. Better shooting than ever before statistically speaking. Better athletes and more bonafied stars than ever imo.

The NBA is a great product. There are a few things they could clean up like not calling walks, getting a more definitive rule on charge/block (IMO unless it is a definite charge a block should be called every time), and continuing cleaning up flopping.

But by in large it is an excellent product and fun to watch. I think some people did not realize how offensively skilled the players are and assume nobody is trying on defense and that turns them off. I believe it is a testament to how skilled so many players are in the league at scoring.
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(01-20-2017 03:10 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Surprised Kansas City isn't mentioned...they have a ready-made arena in the middle of basketball country. Definitely fits out west too.

Pittsburgh and Lousiville make sense, but they'd be in the East.

I'd say KC and Seattle.

Remember the KC Omaha Kings? Before they moved to Sacramento in the mid 1980s. I did not look it up but believe they were the Cincinnati Royals at one time.

They split games between Omaha and KC. It really did not work. Believe Tiny Archibald was their best player while there.

Simply believe that thirty teams are enough, even if some larger markets do not have a team.

Cincinnati, San Diego, Las Vegas, St. Louis, KC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh Seattle, Nashville, likely the biggest cities with no NBA team.
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(01-20-2017 12:28 PM)Mimi Wrote:  
(01-20-2017 03:10 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Surprised Kansas City isn't mentioned...they have a ready-made arena in the middle of basketball country. Definitely fits out west too.

Pittsburgh and Lousiville make sense, but they'd be in the East.

I'd say KC and Seattle.

Remember the KC Omaha Kings? Before they moved to Sacramento in the mid 1980s. I did not look it up but believe they were the Cincinnati Royals at one time.

They split games between Omaha and KC. It really did not work. Believe Tiny Archibald was their best player while there.

Simply believe that thirty teams are enough, even if some larger markets do not have a team.

Cincinnati, San Diego, Las Vegas, St. Louis, KC, Baltimore, Pittsburgh Seattle, Nashville, likely the biggest cities with no NBA team.

Seattle
San Diego (100 miles from LA)
Tampa (100 miles from Orlando)
St. Louis
Baltimore (45 miles from D.C.)
Pittsburgh
Cincinnati (100 miles from Indianapolis)
Las Vegas
Kansas City
Columbus
Austin (80 miles from San Antonio)
San Jose (Part of San Francisco Bay which has the Warriors)
Nashville
Hampton Roads (VA Beach/Norfolk/Newport News)
Providence, RI (90 miles from Boston)
Jacksonville
Louisville (100 miles from Indianapolis)

Of this list, San Diego, Austin, Hampton Roads, Providence, and Louisville are the only metro areas that don't currently have an NFL football and/or NHL hockey team. San Diego, Austin, Providence, and probably Louisville are close enough to existing NBA teams that there would be opposition to having an NBA team there due to media contracts.

Must be noted that Vancouver, BC has 2.3 million people and metro Montreal has 3.8 million people. Both are larger than most of the largest US metros with a current NBA franchise.
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