so will Nippert remain field turf or will grass go in? also, as land crunched as UC seems to be, would the soccer teams move over to Nippert now freeing up those fields they are using now for some other use?

(01-17-2017 01:45 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  so will Nippert remain field turf or will grass go in? also, as land crunched as UC seems to be, would the soccer teams move over to Nippert now freeing up those fields they are using now for some other use?

Field turf as best as I know. Field crew uses removable paint for the soccer configuration, as their season extends into football season. Gettler Stadium / Fields remain as is. that is also used for Track and Field.

(01-14-2017 10:13 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expanding the playing surface to accomodate a regulation soccer field.

$2M project paid for by FC Cincinnati, the USL soccer tenant. If FC Cincy leaves before their lease is up, they have to pay to restore the seating bowl to its original condition.

Or they go bankrupt and you are stuck with less seating.

(01-17-2017 03:29 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 10:13 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expanding the playing surface to accomodate a regulation soccer field.

$2M project paid for by FC Cincinnati, the USL soccer tenant. If FC Cincy leaves before their lease is up, they have to pay to restore the seating bowl to its original condition.

Or they go bankrupt and you are stuck with less seating.

Doubt it's going to happen. They are significantly financed and the leadership is very strong.

Also, as noted previously FCC averaged 17K a game last season. This season they should top that mark--- they already have sold 10K season tickets and the season doesn't even start for three months. I would not be surprised if they averaged 20K/game this year.

They will play a "Friendly" with a Euro team in the summer. Last's years friendly sold 35K tickets. I expect the same this year.

Cincinnati really has embraced this program.

(01-17-2017 03:29 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 10:13 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expanding the playing surface to accomodate a regulation soccer field.

$2M project paid for by FC Cincinnati, the USL soccer tenant. If FC Cincy leaves before their lease is up, they have to pay to restore the seating bowl to its original condition.

Or they go bankrupt and you are stuck with less seating.

Like I said elsewhere... The bowl is not going to come back. Period. End of story. Everyone is happy with the changes. So, bankrupt or not, there is no reason to see a circumstance where the bowl-end will get changed back.

(01-17-2017 03:44 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:29 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 10:13 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expanding the playing surface to accomodate a regulation soccer field.

$2M project paid for by FC Cincinnati, the USL soccer tenant. If FC Cincy leaves before their lease is up, they have to pay to restore the seating bowl to its original condition.

Or they go bankrupt and you are stuck with less seating.

Like I said elsewhere... The bowl is not going to come back. Period. End of story. Everyone is happy with the changes. So, bankrupt or not, there is no reason to see a circumstance where the bowl-end will get changed back.

(01-17-2017 08:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Let's get this straight...
...Cincinnati recently added 1,100 premium seats
...now the local soccer team wants to not only rent the stadium, but also pay 1/3rd of the cost to remove 1,200 seats.

Unless UC was selling out every game at a competitive price per ticket, this is a NO BRAINER. Supply and demand: with fewer lower bowl seats, what do you think will happen to the price of the remaining tickets?

Cincy actually recently added about 2,200 premium seats. 1100 club seats + 53 suites.

And you're right. Removing 1200 of the worse sight-line seats in the house on someone else's dime is a no brainer.

Serious question...why in the world did Columbus get an MLS franchise?

Get some stairmaster machines and some Jenny Craig up in there and they could recoup them fast

(01-15-2017 02:28 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 10:13 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expanding the playing surface to accomodate a regulation soccer field.

$2M project paid for by FC Cincinnati, the USL soccer tenant. If FC Cincy leaves before their lease is up, they have to pay to restore the seating bowl to its original condition.

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I wish they had rounded off the whole cut instead of the notching that they are going with.

Not to mention that the AD has been unambiguous in that the previously tight corners and lines of the old stadium were seen as a safety issue. So even if the soccer lease ends someday, the bowl will not be restored to it's original configuration. The Football staff, the AD...they all are in favor of these renovations.

I have been as adamantly opposed to these changes as anyone, but they are a done deal. Move on.

The reason they kept the end zone at field level is because of the students and the band. It allows the band (although somewhat adjusted) to continue it's charge and having the students at field level is important!

What is under the stands in that end zone?

Baylor built a cool recruiting lounge at field level. Playstation and Xbox, TVs etc. Their game day recruits can hang out down there.

Can Cincy do something similar?

(01-17-2017 01:45 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  so will Nippert remain field turf or will grass go in? also, as land crunched as UC seems to be, would the soccer teams move over to Nippert now freeing up those fields they are using now for some other use?

Yeah...soccer team is stuck with fake turf...which really sucks.

Orlando City in the MLS will finally have a grass field again this year when they move out of the Citrus Bowl and into their new 27,000 seat stadium located very close to downtown. (Fans will fill nearby downtown bars then head to stadium)

CLICK TO ENLARGE

(01-17-2017 04:24 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  What is under the stands in that end zone?

Baylor built a cool recruiting lounge at field level. Playstation and Xbox, TVs etc. Their game day recruits can hang out down there.

Can Cincy do something similar?

That's the plan.

(01-17-2017 04:06 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Serious question...why in the world did Columbus get an MLS franchise?

Lamar Hunt. Also because the city promised to build the first soccer specific stadium in America (which they did).

(01-16-2017 01:59 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 10:30 AM)panama Wrote:  Looking at the diagram it does not seem to be that big of a deal


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It's not. Numbers wise those seats rarely got used. It's a bigger deal for fans from a change of the traditional bowl set up to benefit a business of one of the school's largest donors.

The assertion that those seats rarely got used is actually false. This year, those seats mostly were filled while more expensive, better seats just above them sat empty.

(01-17-2017 04:03 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 08:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Let's get this straight...
...Cincinnati recently added 1,100 premium seats
...now the local soccer team wants to not only rent the stadium, but also pay 1/3rd of the cost to remove 1,200 seats.

Unless UC was selling out every game at a competitive price per ticket, this is a NO BRAINER. Supply and demand: with fewer lower bowl seats, what do you think will happen to the price of the remaining tickets?

Cincy actually recently added about 2,200 premium seats. 1100 club seats + 53 suites.

And you're right. Removing 1200 of the worse sight-line seats in the house on someone else's dime is a no brainer.

Correction: The seat removal is not on FC Cincinnati's dime. FC Cincinnati is paying for the renovation up front, but is getting compensated with UC's half of concession revenues until the cost is repaid.

In summary, UC is paying to have seats removed for soccer. Interestingly, I don't believe there is any plan to have UC's soccer teams play on this soccer field.

As far as removing 1,200 seats being a no-brainer, that's true as long as UC is not P5. UC signed the contract to remove the seats a couple weeks before the newly-renovated stadium opened and the school was supposedly in the running for the B12. In my opinion, UC made a bet against the P5 before the stadium expansion was complete. At the time, it made no sense to be removing 1,200 seats in a puny stadium when you're selling yourself to a P5 conference. Now those seats don't matter.

(01-17-2017 03:37 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:29 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-14-2017 10:13 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Expanding the playing surface to accomodate a regulation soccer field.

$2M project paid for by FC Cincinnati, the USL soccer tenant. If FC Cincy leaves before their lease is up, they have to pay to restore the seating bowl to its original condition.

Or they go bankrupt and you are stuck with less seating.

Doubt it's going to happen. They are significantly financed and the leadership is very strong.

Also, as noted previously FCC averaged 17K a game last season. This season they should top that mark--- they already have sold 10K season tickets and the season doesn't even start for three months. I would not be surprised if they averaged 20K/game this year.

They will play a "Friendly" with a Euro team in the summer. Last's years friendly sold 35K tickets. I expect the same this year.

Cincinnati really has embraced this program.

As long as MLS remains a possibility, FC Cincinnati will be a draw. If minor league status becomes long term, I suspect FC Cincinnati's popularity will follow the examples of other minor league teams in the city and taper off.

Also, the question remains whether current ownership is interested in running minor league soccer if MLS possibilities diminish. The primary motivation is MLS; otherwise, I question whether Lindner and his partners are interested in owning and running minor league soccer long term.

(01-17-2017 04:24 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  What is under the stands in that end zone?

Baylor built a cool recruiting lounge at field level. Playstation and Xbox, TVs etc. Their game day recruits can hang out down there.

Can Cincy do something similar?

is that the room Baylor players go to rape girls too?

(01-17-2017 08:59 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 04:24 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  What is under the stands in that end zone?

Baylor built a cool recruiting lounge at field level. Playstation and Xbox, TVs etc. Their game day recruits can hang out down there.

Can Cincy do something similar?

is that the room Baylor players go to rape girls too?

first game in that stadium the sideline guy was talking about how wonderful that players lounge was and called it "FULLY EQUIPPED"



unfortunate choice of words it turns out

(01-17-2017 06:38 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  UC signed the contract to remove the 1200 seats a couple weeks before the newly-renovated stadium opened and the school was supposedly in the running for the B12. In my opinion, UC made a bet against the P5 before the stadium expansion was complete. At the time, it made no sense to be removing 1,200 seats in a puny stadium when you're selling yourself to a P5 conference. Now those seats don't matter.

You have all the contracts between Cincy and FC Cincinnati, right?

I think you have posted about one signed in August 2015 and one signed in January of 2016. Am I missing one?