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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
(01-12-2017 08:14 PM)jubbasubba Wrote:  Cristobal would be a huge get!

He's considered one of the nation's top recruiters but is that primarily in the South (Alabama & Florida)? I haven't seen too many Midwest kids on Bama's roster. Still, he's on Saban's staff so it might be worth an interview.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
If Cristobal is on campus tomorrow, maybe he should do a working interview. Corvin Moment, a LB out of Florida will be visiting. I'm sure Pinkham has been recruiting him, but hey, just say to Cristobal, go seal this kid's commitment and you got the job.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
'On December 5, 2012 Cristobal was relieved of his position as head coach of the FIU Football program. FIU Athletic Director Pete Garcia explained his reasoning for firing Cristobal as "He's done a very good job for this program, but we’ve gone backwards over the last year and a half. Over the last 22 games, we've gone 8-14." The decision by Garcia was heavily criticized for its rashness.'

From Wickpedia. Doesn't sound like a stellar record of HC success to me.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
(01-12-2017 09:17 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  'On December 5, 2012 Cristobal was relieved of his position as head coach of the FIU Football program. FIU Athletic Director Pete Garcia explained his reasoning for firing Cristobal as "He's done a very good job for this program, but we’ve gone backwards over the last year and a half. Over the last 22 games, we've gone 8-14." The decision by Garcia was heavily criticized for its rashness.'

From Wickpedia. Doesn't sound like a stellar record of HC success to me.

As an fbs school they are 10-37 whit anyone other than him coaching. In fact 2 other coaches there best streak in 22 games is 5-17. 8-14 is good for them. One bad year after two straight bowl appearances is not a reason to fire a coach at that program. It would be like a coach taking our program over pre fleck winning 10 games twice in a row dropping down to .500 and getting fired.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
(01-12-2017 09:17 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  'On December 5, 2012 Cristobal was relieved of his position as head coach of the FIU Football program. FIU Athletic Director Pete Garcia explained his reasoning for firing Cristobal as "He's done a very good job for this program, but we’ve gone backwards over the last year and a half. Over the last 22 games, we've gone 8-14." The decision by Garcia was heavily criticized for its rashness.'

From Wickpedia. Doesn't sound like a stellar record of HC success to me.

The stats aren't adding up for me either. What's interesting is that Bama fans (who currently believe Mario is going to Oregon) are bummed he's leaving. Similarly, the Oregon fans are excited he's rounding out Taggart's staff.

I need to dig into what he's accomplished under Satan.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
FIU is the toughest (worst?) job in FBS. The second coming of Knute Rockne would fail there. Mario coached it's only winning seasons ever and went 1-1 in bowl games. Beat Toledo in the 2010 Pizza Bowl. I don't think FIU is an accurate reflection of his talent.

(01-12-2017 09:17 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  'On December 5, 2012 Cristobal was relieved of his position as head coach of the FIU Football program. FIU Athletic Director Pete Garcia explained his reasoning for firing Cristobal as "He's done a very good job for this program, but we’ve gone backwards over the last year and a half. Over the last 22 games, we've gone 8-14." The decision by Garcia was heavily criticized for its rashness.'

From Wickpedia. Doesn't sound like a stellar record of HC success to me.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
I'm totally on board with Cristobal. You have to keep a lot in context when looking at his record is FIU. You think we have it tough surrounded by all these P5 schools? Picture us as EMU With scUM 10 minutes away. That's FIU and Miami. Then just for fun, besides the "U," picture yourself also having to go up against Florida, FSU, UCF, USF, and FAU for recruits in a town where you're sixth fiddle to the Dolphins, Marlins, Heat, Panthers, (the hockey ones.) and the "U."

That the guy built even one winner there is a miracle.

Sorry for the double post. Should have posted this here to begin with.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
(01-12-2017 09:27 PM)rsswmu Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 09:17 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  'On December 5, 2012 Cristobal was relieved of his position as head coach of the FIU Football program. FIU Athletic Director Pete Garcia explained his reasoning for firing Cristobal as "He's done a very good job for this program, but we’ve gone backwards over the last year and a half. Over the last 22 games, we've gone 8-14." The decision by Garcia was heavily criticized for its rashness.'

From Wickpedia. Doesn't sound like a stellar record of HC success to me.

As an fbs school they are 10-37 whit anyone other than him coaching. In fact 2 other coaches there best streak in 22 games is 5-17. 8-14 is good for them. One bad year after two straight bowl appearances is not a reason to fire a coach at that program. It would be like a coach taking our program over pre fleck winning 10 games twice in a row dropping down to .500 and getting fired.


It wasn't 'one bad year', here is his record at FIU:

2007 1-11
2008 5-7
2009 3-9
2010 7-6 'Little Caesars Pizza' Bowl Appearance
2011 8-5 'Beef O'Brady's' Bowl Appearance (Beef O'Brady?????? lol)
2012 3-9

Some promise there, but hardly stellar. At least by my standards. And I never said the AD was justified in firing him, I said his record as HC was lukewarm.

And if he's the '#1 recruiter in the nation!' as some maintain, why didn't he maintain his programs winning ways when he finally reached 7-6 and 8-5? Something isn't adding up.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
(01-12-2017 10:02 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 09:27 PM)rsswmu Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 09:17 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  'On December 5, 2012 Cristobal was relieved of his position as head coach of the FIU Football program. FIU Athletic Director Pete Garcia explained his reasoning for firing Cristobal as "He's done a very good job for this program, but we’ve gone backwards over the last year and a half. Over the last 22 games, we've gone 8-14." The decision by Garcia was heavily criticized for its rashness.'

From Wickpedia. Doesn't sound like a stellar record of HC success to me.

As an fbs school they are 10-37 whit anyone other than him coaching. In fact 2 other coaches there best streak in 22 games is 5-17. 8-14 is good for them. One bad year after two straight bowl appearances is not a reason to fire a coach at that program. It would be like a coach taking our program over pre fleck winning 10 games twice in a row dropping down to .500 and getting fired.


It wasn't 'one bad year', here is his record at FIU:

2007 1-11
2008 5-7
2009 3-9
2010 7-6 Bowl Appearance
2011 8-5 Bowl Appearance
2012 3-9

Some promise there, but hardly stellar. At least by my standards. And I never said the AD was justified in firing him, I said his record as HC was lukewarm.

We are rightfully singing creightons praises for doing similar things. EMU is an easier place to win than FIU.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
The year before he got there they scored 115 points or less than 10 a game. They also got sanctioned in 2008 from the previous staff and lost scholarships for 4 years.
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(01-12-2017 10:10 PM)rsswmu Wrote:  The year before he got there they scored 115 points or less than 10 a game.

With his HC experience he's a better candidate for our job than Tyrone Wheatley or some of the other asst. coach names being bandied about. But the guys from NDSU and James Madison are solid candidates as well.
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(01-12-2017 10:15 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 10:10 PM)rsswmu Wrote:  The year before he got there they scored 115 points or less than 10 a game.

With his HC experience he's a better candidate for our job than Tyrone Wheatley or some of the other asst. coach names being bandied about. But the guys from NDSU and James Madison are solid candidates as well.

I like cristabol. But I love Houston and klieman. Those are my slam dunk hires.
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why are we hearing nothing from those 2 FCS HC's? Is WMU not a big enough step for them? That's nuts if true.
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Quote:He won a conference title at Florida International...which was/is a total dumpster fire.

But 6-6 in the Sun Belt to win it*. Like sleeping with a fat girl and calling that a "big win". A Good starting point, don't get me wrong, but, not exactly "hot coaching prospect" at that point after going 9-27 for 3 years. But to be fair, they beat 8W Toledo in the Detroit Bowl to go 7-6 that year in the end. OK. After being 1-11, 5-7, and 3-9 for 3 years prior to that. Does that scream awesome recruiting? Maybe it takes a little more time at FIU (even though it's the south, more prospects) -- fine. Nothing to Brag about at all, though. Let's see what happens from that point to solidify saving his job...

After going 7-6, he did go 8-4, to lose to a bowl to a 6-6 Marshall team to end up 8-5 that year. OK. His Peak Year.

After that? 3-9, then fired.

I don't see basking in the benefits of good recruits. No stability, two seasons 15-11 and 1-1 in bowls -- going 9-27 before that and 3-9 after that. IF he did get good recruits flowing in, he did a poor job at solidifying it -- even just at least hovering around .500, which he couldn't do after many years purely under his helm.

At Alabama as OL Coach since 2013 -- okay. Being a good recruiter for Alabama shows he has potential to be a good recruiter, but that's like being great at target practice when you have a top of the line automatic assault rifle (Alabama) and most everyone else has a pistol that a private detective carries in his trench coat. :) Okay, I'm exaggerating, but you get my point.

*Edit: To be fair though, they played 4 P5s OOC and played most very close going 0-4. Granted, nothing big & impressive in the Sun Belt at the time going 6-2, tying with Troy for the Conf Champ, but established themselves as The best 6-6 mid-major -- and beating Toledo in Detroit solidified that. The next year they were as good a team with a slightly better record (easier sched) -- beat @Lousville, but lost to a 3-9 Duke at home and beat everyone below them and lost to everyone above them in Sun Belt, including 6-6 Marshall in a bowl. But going 3-9 after that, going back to the 9-27 record of 3 years before getting things going? With a tougher-than-normal OOC SoS, I can understand giving him another chance. But to say he's a Good hire for a top-G5 team after being OL coach for several years after all that -- not seeing it.
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(01-12-2017 10:18 PM)bronco1988 Wrote:  why are we hearing nothing from those 2 FCS HC's? Is WMU not a big enough step for them? That's nuts if true.


Yup. There was a time when WMU was not a good interim step, that is not true anymore. We have recognition, support and resources to continually build and maintain a winner.
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(01-12-2017 07:02 PM)Nacho Wrote:  He's got a 27-47 head coaching record... what am I missing? Terrible.

I hope Western hires this guy
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(01-12-2017 10:51 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 10:18 PM)bronco1988 Wrote:  why are we hearing nothing from those 2 FCS HC's? Is WMU not a big enough step for them? That's nuts if true.


Yup. There was a time when WMU was not a good interim step, that is not true anymore. We have recognition, support and resources to continually build and maintain a winner.

3 consecutive winning seasons. 1 TOTAL bowl win in program history. This was a great year, but we need to realize we're not Boise or Houston yet. Shoot, we're not even where NIU was 4 years ago. The national media saw us as the Fleck Show...And we let them, cuz man could that guy mug for a camera. Now that he's gone, we are in better shape than when he arrived, but our school is back to show-me mode from the national perspective. If you think otherwise, I think you've let your love for our amazing school blind you a little.

And we don't know if the donors will keep lining the program's pockets. That's why I hope KB is taking THEIR pulse as she tries to make this hire....
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
I don't think getting high-end FCS Head Coaches in the midwest makes us any more a stepping stone than getting a DL/OL/RB/WR coach at a P5.

To prevent us from being a stepping stone place -- or no more so than any mid-tier P5 or a Boise/Houston IS -- if/when we are on our way up winning the MAC and having a great coach (IF/when that happens)..... we do get deals to actually go thru like with what we proposed to PJ. Sure, that didn't work out for PJ. OK. But not every Really Good coach is going to take a little more money over less time (thus less solidity) and go to a Minnesota. PJ's a different cat -- ambitious, etc -- fine.

But if we Happen to run into someone getting us to 0-2L seasons (depending on SoS) winning the MAC and vying for the Access Bowl and on the way to being what NIU was in the MAC -- there'll be some who won't jump ship (no pun intended), IF given the offer we proposed to PJ on his way out. In fact, if PJ can't get Minnesota over the hump and ends up having 7-9W seasons being in 3rd and 2nd place at ever highest in the Division... not enough to get fired, but not anything much better than the former "Kill crew" and not enough to stay forever -- that'd enhance our chances for a HC bringing us to former-NIU-level, staying with a similar offer that we offered PJ.

That said, the chances OF us getting to that point with another HC is pretty narrow. About as narrow as Minnesota winning the BIG in the next few years. :)
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(01-12-2017 11:27 PM)CincoDosAdios Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 10:51 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 10:18 PM)bronco1988 Wrote:  why are we hearing nothing from those 2 FCS HC's? Is WMU not a big enough step for them? That's nuts if true.


Yup. There was a time when WMU was not a good interim step, that is not true anymore. We have recognition, support and resources to continually build and maintain a winner.

3 consecutive winning seasons. 1 TOTAL bowl win in program history. This was a great year, but we need to realize we're not Boise or Houston yet. Shoot, we're not even where NIU was 4 years ago. The national media saw us as the Fleck Show...And we let them, cuz man could that guy mug for a camera. Now that he's gone, we are in better shape than when he arrived, but our school is back to show-me mode from the national perspective. If you think otherwise, I think you've let your love for our amazing school blind you a little.

And we don't know if the donors will keep lining the program's pockets. That's why I hope KB is taking THEIR pulse as she tries to make this hire....

Agree totally we haven't arrived in the minds of the national audience they want some repeats in the way of winning seasons with some notable victories over P5 schools in successive seasons.You are right in saying we were the Fleck show a real novelty.
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RE: Mario Cristobal Interviewing Tomorrow (1/13)
Cristobal is a dirt bag. He's not the kind of guy that should represent WMU and the MAC. The Broncos deserve better.
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