(01-19-2017 10:48 AM)CubsTigersGrizz Wrote:  It was never a lack of funding...it was how the donations were arranged. For example, you donate $100,000, but you give it as 4 gifts of $25,000 over 4 years. Or $1,000,000 given over 10 years. The problem with the BOR, and with Dr. Raines by extension, was they never wanted us to take out loans for athletic department capital expenditures. Even if you get a "loan" from say bank of Bartlett which you can pay back over the course of so many years. That's what Dr. Rudd was talking about in his interview with the CA. Now with our own board, getting approvals for projects will be much easier.

Thanks for the info!!!

(01-19-2017 11:29 AM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(01-19-2017 10:48 AM)CubsTigersGrizz Wrote:  It was never a lack of funding...it was how the donations were arranged. For example, you donate $100,000, but you give it as 4 gifts of $25,000 over 4 years. Or $1,000,000 given over 10 years. The problem with the BOR, and with Dr. Raines by extension, was they never wanted us to take out loans for athletic department capital expenditures. Even if you get a "loan" from say bank of Bartlett which you can pay back over the course of so many years. That's what Dr. Rudd was talking about in his interview with the CA. Now with our own board, getting approvals for projects will be much easier.

That's what I've understood, too. Further, it seemed like the rules were changed a bit on us (the UofM) in that, previously, projects could be/would be approved if a certain portion of the money had already been collected with the remaining portion pledged (I don't know what the thresholds were, but let's say, for example, you've collected 70% of the funds and the remaining 30% were pledged to be collected over the upcoming 5 years - this would be approved). The change that occurred (again, just to my understanding), is that now to be approved, we (again, the UofM) would have to have 100% collected prior to/in conjunction with approval. This is why the basketball facility has started, but the IPF has not - the largest single pledge went to the basketball facility, thus making it 100% collected, while the IPF has some mix of collected/pledged that equates to 100%, or somewhere close to it. But since the IPF cost are not 100% collected, it has not been formally approved for ground-breaking.

It does make one wonder if a UT school, or even MTSU, would have been treated the same way. . . .

MTSU was a BOR school, so yes they were subjected to the same rules. UT had it's own board which governed all the UT schools (Martin, Chatt). They have not be subjected to the same rules.

Yes, but I guarantee you Middle Tennessee has more influence with whom it concerns in Nashville to do these kinds of things than we do.

(01-19-2017 03:21 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Yes, but I guarantee you Middle Tennessee has more influence with whom it concerns in Nashville to do these kinds of things than we do.

I gotta say I'm impressed with MTSU's aggressiveness. They're doing a great recruiting NW Tennessee (MTSU just wasn't on anyone's radar back in my day) and I've seen MTSU billboards here in Atlanta on my drive to work in the morning.

(01-19-2017 10:48 AM)CubsTigersGrizz Wrote:  It was never a lack of funding...it was how the donations were arranged. For example, you donate $100,000, but you give it as 4 gifts of $25,000 over 4 years. Or $1,000,000 given over 10 years. The problem with the BOR, and with Dr. Raines by extension, was they never wanted us to take out loans for athletic department capital expenditures. Even if you get a "loan" from say bank of Bartlett which you can pay back over the course of so many years. That's what Dr. Rudd was talking about in his interview with the CA. Now with our own board, getting approvals for projects will be much easier.

not many average Tiger fans pledged $100,000 and $1 million to the campaign. You will probably be lucky to get $50 or $100 from most.

If you guys don't think the $15M a year (at least) of lost BB revenue hasn't had a big impact on this facility and other items in athletic projects and expenses, you are not living in the real world. Rudd alluded to it in interview with Calkins.

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:05 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Unfortunately, I'm not surprised at the lack of funding. We have very little fan base (meaning ticket sold) and even fewer deep pocket boosters. The football program does not make any money. When a program is outside of the Power 5 conferences. then it is always a struggle. The school needs a T. Boone Pickens.

We have a T. Boone Pickens. What we really need is about 20K-30K fans who are willing to go above and beyond buying a couple of $100 season tickets and who complain like babies when the cost of a parking pass increases by a few bucks.

I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:05 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Unfortunately, I'm not surprised at the lack of funding. We have very little fan base (meaning ticket sold) and even fewer deep pocket boosters. The football program does not make any money. When a program is outside of the Power 5 conferences. then it is always a struggle. The school needs a T. Boone Pickens.

We have a T. Boone Pickens. What we really need is about 20K-30K fans who are willing to go above and beyond buying a couple of $100 season tickets and who complain like babies when the cost of a parking pass increases by a few bucks.

I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  We have a T. Boone Pickens. What we really need is about 20K-30K fans who are willing to go above and beyond buying a couple of $100 season tickets and who complain like babies when the cost of a parking pass increases by a few bucks.

I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

For a self-proclaimed smart guy, you're pretty ignorant. Maybe next time stay at a Holiday Inn Express over the Ritz.

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  We have a T. Boone Pickens. What we really need is about 20K-30K fans who are willing to go above and beyond buying a couple of $100 season tickets and who complain like babies when the cost of a parking pass increases by a few bucks.

I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

Poppaslaw doesn't seem to be able to communicate without calling people names, labeling folks. It's a sign of a weak mind, so don't let it bother you.

(01-22-2017 08:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

Poppaslaw doesn't seem to be able to communicate without calling people names, labeling folks. It's a sign of a weak mind, so don't let it bother you.

I can't help it I'm a very observant person.

Just delete your account.

(01-22-2017 08:44 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 08:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

Poppaslaw doesn't seem to be able to communicate without calling people names, labeling folks. It's a sign of a weak mind, so don't let it bother you.

I can't help it I'm a very observant person.

Just delete your account.

Like I said, weak mind.

(01-22-2017 08:51 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 08:44 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 08:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

Poppaslaw doesn't seem to be able to communicate without calling people names, labeling folks. It's a sign of a weak mind, so don't let it bother you.

I can't help it I'm a very observant person.

Just delete your account.

Like I said, weak mind.

You got me.

$80

(01-22-2017 08:35 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

For a self-proclaimed smart guy, you're pretty ignorant. Maybe next time stay at a Holiday Inn Express over the Ritz.

Link?

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 06:10 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:14 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 03:05 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  Unfortunately, I'm not surprised at the lack of funding. We have very little fan base (meaning ticket sold) and even fewer deep pocket boosters. The football program does not make any money. When a program is outside of the Power 5 conferences. then it is always a struggle. The school needs a T. Boone Pickens.

We have a T. Boone Pickens. What we really need is about 20K-30K fans who are willing to go above and beyond buying a couple of $100 season tickets and who complain like babies when the cost of a parking pass increases by a few bucks.

I'm sure you'll be first in line to shell out the 5k donation for Tiger Lane in '18. How much of that will you recoup by selling the space for all the games you miss?

1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

PAB = Passenger Air Bag?

(01-22-2017 01:34 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 08:35 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

For a self-proclaimed smart guy, you're pretty ignorant. Maybe next time stay at a Holiday Inn Express over the Ritz.

Link?

Hollidayinn.com?

Back to the topic at hand, does anyone have any updated images of the IPF and associated coaches' offices? Curious to see how the plans may have changed.

(01-22-2017 01:40 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 01:34 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 08:35 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

For a self-proclaimed smart guy, you're pretty ignorant. Maybe next time stay at a Holiday Inn Express over the Ritz.

Link?

Hollidayinn.com?

When did I proclaim to be a "smart guy?"

From Calkin's article of 2/15/17 Bowen Cost of Tickets Changing

(Bowen) said the football practice facility "is designed and ready to kick out late April."

note it says "kick out" in the CA. I'm thinking it was meant to read "kick off", but I'm quoting as written.

do editors read this stuff anymore?

(01-22-2017 08:44 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 08:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 12:17 AM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 10:44 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(01-16-2017 08:16 PM)3601 Wrote:  1. You aren't really dumb enough to think they will cost five grand in 2018, are you?
2. Am I a bad fan because I sell a spot or two when I happen to be out of town for a home game?

1. I can only go by what Stephen Green told me.

2. You're just a PAB.

1. I don't know who Stephen Green is, but you didn't answer the question.

2. I don't know what PAB means, but I assume it is an insult and it must make you a real badass.

Poppaslaw doesn't seem to be able to communicate without calling people names, labeling folks. It's a sign of a weak mind, so don't let it bother you.

I can't help it I'm a very observant person.

Just delete your account.

Better yet, just delete your account.