(12-31-2016 10:01 PM)payday Wrote:  They need to set it up like Cusa and put the better teams in the same division to play twice and play the crap teams only once.

Giving us Memphis only once was inexcusable. They're a rival. We should ALWAYS play them twice. Kind of reminds me of what the Big East did to the Louisville rivalry. One basketball game a year - it was dying before UL even left.

UC up to#21 in RPI today, hope they don't fall out of twenties after they wax Tulane tonight.

(01-01-2017 11:43 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  UC up to#21 in RPI today, hope they don't fall out of twenties after they wax Tulane tonight.

You really can't worry about the RPI as this point in the season or any computer numbers until halfway through league play. Kenpom and Sagarin give you a better idea on how good a team really is as this point. RPI Forecast is probably one of the better RPI sites in terms giving you an idea where a team's RPI might fall if the finish with a certain record.

Temple is more likely to finish with an RPI from 50 to 75 because most forecast have them winning only 9 or 10 conference games. Owls have to get to 11 conference wins to be in the NCAA conversation as their RPI would be in the top 50. Their other computers numbers are awful.

Most computer ranking systems outside the RPI rate the league in this order
1. Cincinnati top 25
2. SMU top 35
3. Houston top 40
4. Central Florida between 60 and 75
5. Memphis between 70 and 80
6. Temple between 80 and 100
7. UConn between 100 and 150
8. Tulsa between 100 and 150
9. ECU around 150 to 200
10. USF worse than 200
11. Tulane closer to 300 than 200.

Outside of flipping Tulsa and UConn I think this is probably the most likely way the league finishes. I see Cincinnati and SMU as single digits seeds and someone else sneaking in as one of the last teams in. Temple can get there based on their non-conference resume with 11 league wins. Everyone else needs at least 12 to 13 conference wins.

(01-01-2017 11:43 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  UC up to#21 in RPI today, hope they don't fall out of twenties after they wax Tulane tonight.

Of the 351 teams ranked by RPI, we play(ed) two in the bottom tier...

316 Tulane
323 BGSU

Sadly, Tulane is in our conference and we play them freegin' twice.

Anything less than 15 conference wins with our talent will be a disappointment.

we need divisions

Add Wichita St

we have no business playing the Tulanes, ECUs, etc. twice in a year....that's insane

Put UC, SMU, Memphis, Temple, UCONN and Wichita St in one division
Put Tulane, UCF, USF, ECU, UH, and Tulsa in the other

you play your own div teams twice and the other div. teams once for 16 conf games

this alignment isn't about geography or fairness...its about protecting the ncaa teams in the conference from the putrid dregs that have RPI's in the 200-300 range most years

that clown Lebo at ECU purposefully schedules the absolute worst teams to pad his wins losses and then, doesn't even have a great record. If he played a real schedule his craptastic program would win 10 games a year. The school doesn't give a rats as they are ok with 'mediocrity' if you can call it that in hoops. Well I care because these programs in this conference do this and then we end up having to play them and their 300 RPI TWICE (once is bad enough) and it sucks and there isn't a darn thing we can do about it.

Wichita State adds nothing, football drives the money train. For basketball, win the conference and make your $$$ in the tourney

(01-01-2017 04:37 PM)Crewdogz Wrote:  Wichita State adds nothing, football drives the money train. For basketball, win the conference and make your $$$ in the tourney

I disagree. At this point I really don't care about football anymore. Adding WSU gives us another quality game to draw interest and get us on ESPN. Nobody watches us play the Tulanes and ECUs of the world.

This would be a heck of a bball league:

Big East

Div A
UCONN
UC
Temple
S. Hall
Butler
Providence
Marquette

Div B
Gtown
Xavier
Nova
St. Johns
Wichita St
Creighton
Depaul

Permanent Cross over rivalries
UCONN/Gtown
UC/XU
Temple/Nova
SH/SJU
Butler/Wichita St
Marquette/Creighton
Prov/Depaul

8-10 bids a year

(01-01-2017 04:37 PM)Crewdogz Wrote:  Wichita State adds nothing, football drives the money train. For basketball, win the conference and make your $$$ in the tourney

true but we are on the outside looking in and if the P5/G5 split keeps widening and then the G5 starts their own 'little playoff'...screw football at that point. It's pointless. It may get the point we drop it down a level and throw all the eggs into the Basketball basket and try like heck to team up with UCONN and get into the Big East.

The only UC OOC opponent to lose since Tuesday is Brown. That's why UC has been climbing the RPI. Their ooc RPI is now #29. And haven't even played X yet. Cronin did great scheduling this year!

(01-01-2017 04:46 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 04:37 PM)Crewdogz Wrote:  Wichita State adds nothing, football drives the money train. For basketball, win the conference and make your $$$ in the tourney

I disagree. At this point I really don't care about football anymore. Adding WSU gives us another quality game to draw interest and get us on ESPN. Nobody watches us play the Tulanes and ECUs of the world.

Then you make your program good enough you get made for TV games like when UC played AZ. Your feelings aside football drives the money train. ESPN cares nothing for a conference game or 2 a year. Sad reality.

As for a non P5 playoff that might be a trial balloon but no colleges should accept that..
If UC ever goes down a division they will be the equivalent of the Dayton Flyers.

Up to#20 15 minutes before tipoff......

Let's go UC...gotta drill these clowns tonight

Moving on up!

Up to #22 in both the coaches and AP polls. Lots of movement in the 5-20 range, but not too many teams in the 20-25 range lost last week.

It's gonna take more teams losing to move up as not too many quality wins left on the schedule.

The Xavier game is really big for UC this year. UC needs a gaudy conference record and probably a win against X to maximize the seed they can get.

This is their year!

I feel like this is our best shot at Xavier in the last few years.

This season has the earmarks of 2002. If they can win their next two, they could be on their way to a Top 5-10 final ranking.