Please kill this sorry ars thread. Smack talking with a FCS program supporter. Really?
It's that mentality that allows our conference mate ULM to get picked on by the wanna move ups. If you're moving forward by moving to FBS, quit living in the past.

I see the MAC board has the same cancer.

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You know it's June when the NDSU realignment talk starts up...

TXST crescendos every 2 decades or so. (1982, 2005) Technically we're on the upswing (12 seasons on). Give it some time.

(06-12-2017 12:43 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(06-12-2017 12:22 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I've talked to an NDSU fan before and it was interesting to see the difference in perspectives between our fan base and theirs.

For Georgia Southern fans, moving up and joining the SBC was a no brainer. We'd get to play with our historic foes like App State, Troy, Ark State, Georgia State, and Texas State (and MT before they left). We fit better culturally with the Belt than the SoCon. We knew going in that we weren't going to win anymore football national championships which sucks, but it is what it is. Instead, we get to play for bowl games which most are better broadcast, more respected, more viewed, and come with better benefits than playing for an FCS title ever was/did. Our stadium, budget, school, and even the city of Statesboro all ballooned upward because of the move. We have access to things that we never did in our FCS days.

From an NDSU fan's point of view: They are the flagship school not only in their state but in their region. They don't have to fight anyone for attention. They see the FCS national title game as a tick below the FBS title game and a few ticks above G5 bowl games. If they did want to join the FBS, what conference could they join? the SBC and MAC seem to be focused on geography, CUSA and the MWC are overflowing, and the AAC isn't looking to expand to the Dakotas. They wouldn't have anything to offer as an independent and can't afford to pay for every game like Liberty.[b][b] NDSU fans are used to playing the FCS title game is North Dakota every year, but if they were G5, there are no bowl games remotely close to them.
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That's why NDSU fans don't back the move up to the FBS. There is no point to them moving up. They are content with being a big fish in a small pond like Georgia Southern was. The only difference is our pond was drying up and we needed to get out while we still could.

2 things:

1)are TXST and GS really historic opponents?

2) FCS title game has been in Frisco, TX for a while. No where near North Dakota.

But yea I agree with you. We all wanted to be FBS to move closer to our big brother schools and to be grouped with like minded schools that want to focus on athletics. They are big brother. No need for them.

We played each other before we were in the Sun Belt so I would call that being an old foe, maybe not a rival but a foe. Old is a better word than Historic I guess.

And you're right. I meant to say playoff games not the title game. Thanks for pointing that out.

This guy is hiding behind his Mama's skirt. With no possibility of moving up he can talk all this smack without ever actually having to back it up.

The limited amount of scholarships helps NDSU in the FCS. It levels the playing field a ton versus teams talent rich areas. GS and other non state flagship schools like Sam Houston and JMU went toe to toe with them and they are a state flagship school. The more scholarships you allow would actually be detriment as they would have to convince 20+ more players from all over the country to play in probably hundreds of miles away from home in North Dakota. It has not worked out to well for most northern mid west teams that have more cows than people.

(12-16-2016 08:46 AM)Meathead Wrote:  What I think I've learned over the past three seasons in FBS is that your 2-deep O-Line is just as important as your skill guys. Nobody can make it through a full FBS season without injuries so depth is what helps you be successful. I think right now, NDSU would be around 5 or 6 wins... with a full 85 scholarships, I'd expect you to be pretty good because you have a good program and good coaches... but in no way do I see any form of domination.


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One could argue that the two-deep on the offensive line is far more important than skill players. For App, there is a stable of running backs and several receivers who can step in for one another without missing a beat, but once an offensive lineman goes down there is a steep curve that slows everything down.

(06-13-2017 11:47 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 08:46 AM)Meathead Wrote:  What I think I've learned over the past three seasons in FBS is that your 2-deep O-Line is just as important as your skill guys. Nobody can make it through a full FBS season without injuries so depth is what helps you be successful. I think right now, NDSU would be around 5 or 6 wins... with a full 85 scholarships, I'd expect you to be pretty good because you have a good program and good coaches... but in no way do I see any form of domination.


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One could argue that the two-deep on the offensive line is far more important than skill players. For App, there is a stable of running backs and several receivers who can step in for one another without missing a beat, but once an offensive lineman goes down there is a steep curve that slows everything down.

I completely agree one only has to look at the difference in production from 2015 to 2016 at GS to see what a difference the OL can make. Poor coaching and blocking cost us at least 3 wins last season if not more and a big part of that was injuries from full contact practice that had two of our best OL out for the entire season.

(06-13-2017 01:33 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 11:47 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 08:46 AM)Meathead Wrote:  What I think I've learned over the past three seasons in FBS is that your 2-deep O-Line is just as important as your skill guys. Nobody can make it through a full FBS season without injuries so depth is what helps you be successful. I think right now, NDSU would be around 5 or 6 wins... with a full 85 scholarships, I'd expect you to be pretty good because you have a good program and good coaches... but in no way do I see any form of domination.


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One could argue that the two-deep on the offensive line is far more important than skill players. For App, there is a stable of running backs and several receivers who can step in for one another without missing a beat, but once an offensive lineman goes down there is a steep curve that slows everything down.

I completely agree one only has to look at the difference in production from 2015 to 2016 at GS to see what a difference the OL can make. Poor coaching and blocking cost us at least 3 wins last season if not more and a big part of that was injuries from full contact practice that had two of our best OL out for the entire season.

Which begs the question, what impact will running three different offenses in successive seasons have on Southern this year? It could be considered four or five actually since last season you looked like a traditional spread offense, an air raid offense, and an option offense....sometimes all in one game. Whoever thought that would work at this level was fired i'm sure.

(06-13-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 01:33 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 11:47 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 08:46 AM)Meathead Wrote:  What I think I've learned over the past three seasons in FBS is that your 2-deep O-Line is just as important as your skill guys. Nobody can make it through a full FBS season without injuries so depth is what helps you be successful. I think right now, NDSU would be around 5 or 6 wins... with a full 85 scholarships, I'd expect you to be pretty good because you have a good program and good coaches... but in no way do I see any form of domination.


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One could argue that the two-deep on the offensive line is far more important than skill players. For App, there is a stable of running backs and several receivers who can step in for one another without missing a beat, but once an offensive lineman goes down there is a steep curve that slows everything down.

I completely agree one only has to look at the difference in production from 2015 to 2016 at GS to see what a difference the OL can make. Poor coaching and blocking cost us at least 3 wins last season if not more and a big part of that was injuries from full contact practice that had two of our best OL out for the entire season.

Which begs the question, what impact will running three different offenses in successive seasons have on Southern this year? It could be considered four or five actually since last season you looked like a traditional spread offense, an air raid offense, and an option offense....sometimes all in one game. Whoever thought that would work at this level was fired i'm sure.

Well at least the two Co-OC's were fired we'll see if that did the trick.

(06-13-2017 02:41 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 01:33 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 11:47 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-16-2016 08:46 AM)Meathead Wrote:  What I think I've learned over the past three seasons in FBS is that your 2-deep O-Line is just as important as your skill guys. Nobody can make it through a full FBS season without injuries so depth is what helps you be successful. I think right now, NDSU would be around 5 or 6 wins... with a full 85 scholarships, I'd expect you to be pretty good because you have a good program and good coaches... but in no way do I see any form of domination.


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One could argue that the two-deep on the offensive line is far more important than skill players. For App, there is a stable of running backs and several receivers who can step in for one another without missing a beat, but once an offensive lineman goes down there is a steep curve that slows everything down.

I completely agree one only has to look at the difference in production from 2015 to 2016 at GS to see what a difference the OL can make. Poor coaching and blocking cost us at least 3 wins last season if not more and a big part of that was injuries from full contact practice that had two of our best OL out for the entire season.

Which begs the question, what impact will running three different offenses in successive seasons have on Southern this year? It could be considered four or five actually since last season you looked like a traditional spread offense, an air raid offense, and an option offense....sometimes all in one game. Whoever thought that would work at this level was fired i'm sure.

Well at least the two Co-OC's were fired we'll see if that did the trick.

All I want you to do is pull it together, win all games except for vs. Appalachian State University, and be a prominent SOS opponent in our access bowl bid. Is that too much to ask?

(06-13-2017 02:52 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:41 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 01:33 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 11:47 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  One could argue that the two-deep on the offensive line is far more important than skill players. For App, there is a stable of running backs and several receivers who can step in for one another without missing a beat, but once an offensive lineman goes down there is a steep curve that slows everything down.

I completely agree one only has to look at the difference in production from 2015 to 2016 at GS to see what a difference the OL can make. Poor coaching and blocking cost us at least 3 wins last season if not more and a big part of that was injuries from full contact practice that had two of our best OL out for the entire season.

Which begs the question, what impact will running three different offenses in successive seasons have on Southern this year? It could be considered four or five actually since last season you looked like a traditional spread offense, an air raid offense, and an option offense....sometimes all in one game. Whoever thought that would work at this level was fired i'm sure.

Well at least the two Co-OC's were fired we'll see if that did the trick.

All I want you to do is pull it together, win all games except for vs. Appalachian State University, and be a prominent SOS opponent in our access bowl bid. Is that too much to ask?

I personally feel that the Sun Belt is far more entertaining when Southern is contending versus what happened last season.

(06-14-2017 01:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:52 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:41 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 02:35 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(06-13-2017 01:33 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  I completely agree one only has to look at the difference in production from 2015 to 2016 at GS to see what a difference the OL can make. Poor coaching and blocking cost us at least 3 wins last season if not more and a big part of that was injuries from full contact practice that had two of our best OL out for the entire season.

Which begs the question, what impact will running three different offenses in successive seasons have on Southern this year? It could be considered four or five actually since last season you looked like a traditional spread offense, an air raid offense, and an option offense....sometimes all in one game. Whoever thought that would work at this level was fired i'm sure.

Well at least the two Co-OC's were fired we'll see if that did the trick.

All I want you to do is pull it together, win all games except for vs. Appalachian State University, and be a prominent SOS opponent in our access bowl bid. Is that too much to ask?

I personally feel that the Sun Belt is far more entertaining when Southern is contending versus what happened last season.

Not to mention the Sunbelt BBS board as well.

(06-14-2017 04:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 01:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  I personally feel that the Sun Belt is far more entertaining when Southern is contending versus what happened last season.

Not to mention the Sunbelt BBS board as well.

I was actually thinking the other day about how much more creative the GS trolling of GSU seemed to be when we were clearly a dumpster fire (not that we're necessarily all the way out of those woods) and the Eagles were either still at the top of FCS or transitioning in style. It'd suck if genuinely developing a rivalry with them means we get fewer GSU Zuul logos and Pink Panthers.

(06-14-2017 07:38 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 04:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 01:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  I personally feel that the Sun Belt is far more entertaining when Southern is contending versus what happened last season.

Not to mention the Sunbelt BBS board as well.

I was actually thinking the other day about how much more creative the GS trolling of GSU seemed to be when we were clearly a dumpster fire (not that we're necessarily all the way out of those woods) and the Eagles were either still at the top of FCS or transitioning in style. It'd suck if genuinely developing a rivalry with them means we get fewer GSU Zuul logos and Pink Panthers.

Admit it Pounce, you love us.

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(06-11-2017 04:56 PM)lakesbison Wrote:  as for the marshall 96 team? CB Marcus Williams *4th year NY Jets& would cover him low & 2 All American Safeties would take him HIGH.. on the 2013 15-0 NDSU squad.

Even if you could triple team Moss, he would have just flat out beat them with speed. Randy Moss ran a 4.19 at DuPont HS and at Marshall. Your CBs or safeties aren't going to keep up with 18-19 year old Moss. Even if you would my guess is none of those have a 43 inch vertical.

Also once you do start to triple team Moss then Eric Kresser would have just started taking shots at James Williams on the other side or hand the ball off to Marshall's 2nd all time leading rusher in Doug Chapman.

Plus your option game wouldn't have fooled our defense, we already had to go up against the best option team in IAA at the time in GA Southern.

Do I think NDSU is a good team, there is no doubt. Do I ever think they move up to FBS. I don't see it unless the WAC is somehow revived with teams like Montana, Montana State, Idaho, NMSU and others. And since Montana or Montana State have never even looked at moving up I don't ever see that happening. NDSU was about 15-20 years to late to the party.

(06-14-2017 10:31 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 07:38 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 04:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 01:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  I personally feel that the Sun Belt is far more entertaining when Southern is contending versus what happened last season.

Not to mention the Sunbelt BBS board as well.

I was actually thinking the other day about how much more creative the GS trolling of GSU seemed to be when we were clearly a dumpster fire (not that we're necessarily all the way out of those woods) and the Eagles were either still at the top of FCS or transitioning in style. It'd suck if genuinely developing a rivalry with them means we get fewer GSU Zuul logos and Pink Panthers.

Admit it Pounce, you love us.

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You like Georgia Southern fans don't you, Squidward

(06-15-2017 07:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 10:31 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 07:38 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 04:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 01:25 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  I personally feel that the Sun Belt is far more entertaining when Southern is contending versus what happened last season.

Not to mention the Sunbelt BBS board as well.

I was actually thinking the other day about how much more creative the GS trolling of GSU seemed to be when we were clearly a dumpster fire (not that we're necessarily all the way out of those woods) and the Eagles were either still at the top of FCS or transitioning in style. It'd suck if genuinely developing a rivalry with them means we get fewer GSU Zuul logos and Pink Panthers.

Admit it Pounce, you love us.

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You like Georgia Southern fans don't you, Squidward

I'd say you're kind of like the mole on my arm that MIGHT be changing shape. I should probably have it removed just in case, but now I'm so used to looking at it every day that it just seems like it belongs there.

(06-15-2017 07:33 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 07:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 10:31 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 07:38 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 04:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  Not to mention the Sunbelt BBS board as well.

I was actually thinking the other day about how much more creative the GS trolling of GSU seemed to be when we were clearly a dumpster fire (not that we're necessarily all the way out of those woods) and the Eagles were either still at the top of FCS or transitioning in style. It'd suck if genuinely developing a rivalry with them means we get fewer GSU Zuul logos and Pink Panthers.

Admit it Pounce, you love us.

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You like Georgia Southern fans don't you, Squidward

I'd say you're kind of like the mole on my arm that MIGHT be changing shape. I should probably have it removed just in case, but now I'm so used to looking at it every day that it just seems like it belongs there.

Don't worry about that mole, what do Dr.'s know anyway. Just drive to Statesboro and pour some magically Eagle Creek water on it and you'll be good. We won't charge a co-pay but pre-approval is required by the committee.

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(06-15-2017 11:01 AM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 07:33 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(06-15-2017 07:03 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 10:31 PM)SBEagle Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 07:38 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  I was actually thinking the other day about how much more creative the GS trolling of GSU seemed to be when we were clearly a dumpster fire (not that we're necessarily all the way out of those woods) and the Eagles were either still at the top of FCS or transitioning in style. It'd suck if genuinely developing a rivalry with them means we get fewer GSU Zuul logos and Pink Panthers.

Admit it Pounce, you love us.

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You like Georgia Southern fans don't you, Squidward

I'd say you're kind of like the mole on my arm that MIGHT be changing shape. I should probably have it removed just in case, but now I'm so used to looking at it every day that it just seems like it belongs there.

Don't worry about that mole, what do Dr.'s know anyway. Just drive to Statesboro and pour some magically Eagle Creek water on it and you'll be good. We won't charge a co-pay but pre-approval is required by the committee.

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I doubt it would call for radiation therapy quite yet.