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RE: Apparently Amazon wants to get into sports broadcasting
AlltiedUp the AAC contract is up in 2019 but the open window to talk with Espn is in 2018 but they have already had some talks, and Aresco and Amazon have been talking for awhile now...Again JRsec we will have to see where it goes...Right now its becoming a Power 2 with Big Ten and SEC by a mile....But The Cable Bubble is on the verge of busting, and Aresco is a guy that knows this full well and Amazon has a platform and ready to launch and wants it...Google has Youtube and platforms as well....We will have to see where this heads...But the Future might be sooner than we think is all im saying...
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RE: Apparently Amazon wants to get into sports broadcasting
(02-07-2017 06:13 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 02:03 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  AAC will get a big raise from Amazon for their Next TV Deal and probably be around 10 to 12 MM per team which is a good start ....

When is the AAC contract up?

AAC, MWC, and BYU media contracts all expire after 2019 season - and my hunch is that it is no coincidence. (technically, ESPN has an option for BYU's 2019 season. BYU hosts USC, Utah, Washington, and Boise St. that year, so I'm assuming ESPN exercises the option).

With an Amazon deal, I could see the AAC add BYU, Boise St., SDSU, and Air Force for the 2020 season - and other MWC schools, if so desired.
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RE: Apparently Amazon wants to get into sports broadcasting
(02-08-2017 12:28 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 06:13 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 02:03 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  AAC will get a big raise from Amazon for their Next TV Deal and probably be around 10 to 12 MM per team which is a good start ....

When is the AAC contract up?

AAC, MWC, and BYU media contracts all expire after 2019 season - and my hunch is that it is no coincidence. (technically, ESPN has an option for BYU's 2019 season. BYU hosts USC, Utah, Washington, and Boise St. that year, so I'm assuming ESPN exercises the option).

With an Amazon deal, I could see the AAC add BYU, Boise St., SDSU, and Air Force for the 2020 season - and other MWC schools, if so desired.

Well, the MWC and CUSA tried to come up with a combo league a few years ago and it fell through. Part of me would like to see it, but the other part of me doesn't want those other MWC schools to be left out.
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RE: Apparently Amazon wants to get into sports broadcasting
(02-08-2017 01:41 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:28 PM)YNot Wrote:  AAC, MWC, and BYU media contracts all expire after 2019 season - and my hunch is that it is no coincidence. (technically, ESPN has an option for BYU's 2019 season. BYU hosts USC, Utah, Washington, and Boise St. that year, so I'm assuming ESPN exercises the option).

With an Amazon deal, I could see the AAC add BYU, Boise St., SDSU, and Air Force for the 2020 season - and other MWC schools, if so desired.

Well, the MWC and CUSA tried to come up with a combo league a few years ago and it fell through. Part of me would like to see it, but the other part of me doesn't want those other MWC schools to be left out.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story...conference

The early 2012 MWC-CUSA merger talks occurred after the MWC had just lost Boise St. and SDSU (or so it thought) and TCU, and had already lost Utah and BYU, and was adding Fresno St., Nevada, and Hawaii (FB only).

The CUSA had lost Memphis, SMU, Houston and UCF.

The old Big East, on the other hand, had the current AAC lineup, minus Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU plus Louisville and Rutgers (and, Boise St. and SDSU, or so we thought).

So, we're talking a merger with Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, and Fresno St. with Southern Miss, Rice, Marshall, and UAB.

An AAC-MWC merger would be a different and unlikely animal than the MWC-CUSA creation.

Personally, I would love to the AAC expansion with Boise St., SDSU, BYU, and Air Force. It would look very much like the old Big East's post-exodus expansion plan.

The AAC would be a formidable conference. It wouldn't quite land in the "Power" sphere, but it would be relevant, with a national reach, and definitely a level above the MAC, CUSA, Sun Belt, and MWC leftovers.

The MWC could add NMSU and Idaho or even some Big Sky call-ups and continue its place as the lower-tier FBS conference for the West.
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RE: Apparently Amazon wants to get into sports broadcasting
(02-08-2017 02:52 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 01:41 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:28 PM)YNot Wrote:  AAC, MWC, and BYU media contracts all expire after 2019 season - and my hunch is that it is no coincidence. (technically, ESPN has an option for BYU's 2019 season. BYU hosts USC, Utah, Washington, and Boise St. that year, so I'm assuming ESPN exercises the option).

With an Amazon deal, I could see the AAC add BYU, Boise St., SDSU, and Air Force for the 2020 season - and other MWC schools, if so desired.

Well, the MWC and CUSA tried to come up with a combo league a few years ago and it fell through. Part of me would like to see it, but the other part of me doesn't want those other MWC schools to be left out.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story...conference

The early 2012 MWC-CUSA merger talks occurred after the MWC had just lost Boise St. and SDSU (or so it thought) and TCU, and had already lost Utah and BYU, and was adding Fresno St., Nevada, and Hawaii (FB only).

The CUSA had lost Memphis, SMU, Houston and UCF.

The old Big East, on the other hand, had the current AAC lineup, minus Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU plus Louisville and Rutgers (and, Boise St. and SDSU, or so we thought).

So, we're talking a merger with Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, and Fresno St. with Southern Miss, Rice, Marshall, and UAB.

An AAC-MWC merger would be a different and unlikely animal than the MWC-CUSA creation.

Personally, I would love to the AAC expansion with Boise St., SDSU, BYU, and Air Force. It would look very much like the old Big East's post-exodus expansion plan.

The AAC would be a formidable conference. It wouldn't quite land in the "Power" sphere, but it would be relevant, with a national reach, and definitely a level above the MAC, CUSA, Sun Belt, and MWC leftovers.

The MWC could add NMSU and Idaho or even some Big Sky call-ups and continue its place as the lower-tier FBS conference for the West.

True.

I would do it like this though...

AAC

East: UConn, Temple, East Carolina, UCF, USF

South: Cincinnati, Tulane, Memphis, Houston, SMU

Central: Navy, Tulsa, Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico

West: San Diego State, UNLV, BYU, Boise State, Wyoming


You have most of the original MWC plus most of the original CUSA plus UConn and Temple. It's a national conference with regional divisions.
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AllTiedUp I like that Concept....That looks good actually and could work....But the AAC will get a Big Raise on their deal, which is a Reason Espn stepped in and stopped the Big 12 Expansion to protect their Money Making Property in the AAC....even 10 to 12 MM per team is small to them for the rewards they will recieve from it and telling them who to take when they expand for the New TV deal and on who to poach to their liking...
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RE: Apparently Amazon wants to get into sports broadcasting
(02-08-2017 03:31 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I would do it like this though...

AAC

East: UConn, Temple, East Carolina, UCF, USF

South: Cincinnati, Tulane, Memphis, Houston, SMU

Central: Navy, Tulsa, Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico

West: San Diego State, UNLV, BYU, Boise State, Wyoming


You have most of the original MWC plus most of the original CUSA plus UConn and Temple. It's a national conference with regional divisions.

That's a good group. The difficulty comes in aligning the divisions.

- Navy would object to replacing Houston and SMU with CSU and New Mexico.
- Cincinnati would want to remain in the East.
- Wyoming would need to stay with CSU (50 miles apart) and Front range schools

I think you could see five 4-team *scheduling* divisions:

EAST: UConn, Temple, Cincinnati, ECU
SOUTH: USF, UCF, Memphis, Tulane
CENTRAL: Navy, Houston, SMU, Tulsa
MOUNTAIN: Air Force, CSU, Wyoming, New Mexico
WEST: SDSU, UNLV, BYU, Boise St.

Air Force-Navy would be the only locked cross-division game. And, perhaps have MOUNTAIN v. WEST and EAST v. Florida schools and Navy and CENTRAL (excl. Navy) v. Memphis/Tulane more often than not.

AAC Championship game simply takes the top-2 teams based on conference W-L records, tie breakers based on head-to-head, then CFP rankings.

For Olympic sports,

EAST: UConn, Temple, Cincinnati, ECU, USF, UCF, *VCU
CENTRAL: Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, Air Force, New Mexico
WEST: SDSU, UNLV, BYU, Boise St., CSU, Wyoming, *Gonzaga

12 intra-division games (H-H) and 8 cross-division games. AFA and UNM play CSU and Wyo each season and more WEST teams than EAST. Tulane and Memphis play more EAST than WEST.
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I could See something like that working....But more likely AAC when TV contract Discussions get going, the networks will tell them who to Poach and take.....Probably BYU, CSU, AF, and Maybe ARMY "FB Only" or UNM or maybe Boise State...But AAC has Bad blood for Boise State after the stunt they pulled on them....Would taking some serious talking on BSU Part to patch it over or the Networks really wanting them in...Look for Amazon to become a Major Player once they Acquire AAC along with ESPN....Wheels in Motion on that....
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(02-25-2017 05:19 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  I could See something like that working....But more likely AAC when TV contract Discussions get going, the networks will tell them who to Poach and take.....Probably BYU, CSU, AF, and Maybe ARMY "FB Only" or UNM or maybe Boise State...But AAC has Bad blood for Boise State after the stunt they pulled on them....Would taking some serious talking on BSU Part to patch it over or the Networks really wanting them in...Look for Amazon to become a Major Player once they Acquire AAC along with ESPN....Wheels in Motion on that....

The AAC can't really blame Boise for not coming. After TCU & WV left it wasn't the same conference, it was unstable. Plus their conference came back with a really sweet deal for Boise. If the AAC can get them then they should go ahead & send the invite. That would make a tough western division with BYU.

Boise, BYU, AF, Houston, NAVY, Tulsa, SMU, Colorado St

Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF, USF, UCONN, ECU, Temple, Tulane

Or, if multi divisions are allowed:
AF, NAVY, Colorado St, BYU

UCF, USF, ECU, Tulane

Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Boise

Cincinnati, Memphis, Temple, UCONN
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