(12-04-2016 11:15 AM)rosewater Wrote:  Sorry to see the end of his career, but it is time for him to step aside. Very classy on his part. Very important hire. I certainly do not have the answers but would like to follow success from the past. I like a proven head coach or an offensive guy. We get half of the equation with Brown. He has only one successful season under his belt but he is an offensive guy. I wonder if he was negotiating with Cincy this week, they lost a game against a 4-7 team yesterday. I like Fleck better (Remember, we have had a little success with Michigan coaches), but Brown is more realistic. I would also take a look at Candle. Toledo is close enough to Michigan. Say no to Strong, Kiffin or Fickle.

Well said Rosewater I appreciate Tubs for doing the right thing.

(12-04-2016 12:50 PM)chip Wrote:  Everyone said Coombs needed some big time experience back when TT was picked. Well, he has a lot more now. As pissed as I was when he left for tOSU I would welcome him back. He is a good man, a good coach, and would be 100% dedicated to getting the job done.

(12-04-2016 11:56 AM)daap_bearcat97 Wrote:  I've heard a lot of rumblings about Kerry Combs, being on the short list as he is being pushed by a lot of big donors. I am not at all supporting that as a hire and it would be a huge let down in my opinion. Fleck is a home run. Neal Brown would be okay, time would tell. I really like Lincoln Riley and John Grass as well as Brohm. I think you have to go after a proven winner at any level (except high school, etc). Fleck needs to be the guy and we need to act quick!

Experience being demoted from secondary coach, associate head coach, and special teams coordinator to just cornerbacks coach isn't the kind of experience we are looking for.

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(12-04-2016 01:18 PM)subflea Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 12:50 PM)chip Wrote:  Everyone said Coombs needed some big time experience back when TT was picked. Well, he has a lot more now. As pissed as I was when he left for tOSU I would welcome him back. He is a good man, a good coach, and would be 100% dedicated to getting the job done.

(12-04-2016 11:56 AM)daap_bearcat97 Wrote:  I've heard a lot of rumblings about Kerry Combs, being on the short list as he is being pushed by a lot of big donors. I am not at all supporting that as a hire and it would be a huge let down in my opinion. Fleck is a home run. Neal Brown would be okay, time would tell. I really like Lincoln Riley and John Grass as well as Brohm. I think you have to go after a proven winner at any level (except high school, etc). Fleck needs to be the guy and we need to act quick!

Experience being demoted from secondary coach, associate head coach, and special teams coordinator to just cornerbacks coach isn't the kind of experience we are looking for.

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Bingo... he has more years, but hasn't really advanced as a coach. OSU hasn't seen fit to promote him, he hasn't taken a higher level job somewhere else and in fact OSU has removed responsibilities from him.

(12-04-2016 01:18 PM)subflea Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 12:50 PM)chip Wrote:  Everyone said Coombs needed some big time experience back when TT was picked. Well, he has a lot more now. As pissed as I was when he left for tOSU I would welcome him back. He is a good man, a good coach, and would be 100% dedicated to getting the job done.

(12-04-2016 11:56 AM)daap_bearcat97 Wrote:  I've heard a lot of rumblings about Kerry Combs, being on the short list as he is being pushed by a lot of big donors. I am not at all supporting that as a hire and it would be a huge let down in my opinion. Fleck is a home run. Neal Brown would be okay, time would tell. I really like Lincoln Riley and John Grass as well as Brohm. I think you have to go after a proven winner at any level (except high school, etc). Fleck needs to be the guy and we need to act quick!

Experience being demoted from secondary coach, associate head coach, and special teams coordinator to just cornerbacks coach isn't the kind of experience we are looking for.

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No to Combs.

He is a good man.
He was a good high school coach. He has not been promoted at the college level...huge red flag that he has peaked.
100% dedication? Makes no difference if you can't do the job.

No on Coombs. Meyer keeps him around for his recruiting contacts in Cincinnati, thats about it.

Brohm worries me. Can coach, but he is a weak recruiter. Being in the AAC means we aren't playing on level ground in the recruiting game and we need a strong performances there. Kiffin is a nutjob, always has been, he's high risk.

(12-04-2016 01:26 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 01:18 PM)subflea Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 12:50 PM)chip Wrote:  Everyone said Coombs needed some big time experience back when TT was picked. Well, he has a lot more now. As pissed as I was when he left for tOSU I would welcome him back. He is a good man, a good coach, and would be 100% dedicated to getting the job done.

(12-04-2016 11:56 AM)daap_bearcat97 Wrote:  I've heard a lot of rumblings about Kerry Combs, being on the short list as he is being pushed by a lot of big donors. I am not at all supporting that as a hire and it would be a huge let down in my opinion. Fleck is a home run. Neal Brown would be okay, time would tell. I really like Lincoln Riley and John Grass as well as Brohm. I think you have to go after a proven winner at any level (except high school, etc). Fleck needs to be the guy and we need to act quick!

Experience being demoted from secondary coach, associate head coach, and special teams coordinator to just cornerbacks coach isn't the kind of experience we are looking for.

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No to Combs.

He is a good man.
He was a good high school coach. He has not been promoted at the college level...huge red flag that he has peaked.
100% dedication? Makes no difference if you can't do the job.

I don't have confidence that Coombs can be a HC at this level. If that's what he wanted, he should have been looking for a DII or FCS gig to prove himself as a college HC.

I don't want Coombs either, but think about how much better this program would be right now had we hired him in December 2012 verses the overpriced cardboard cut out we've had.

(12-04-2016 01:38 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I don't want Coombs either, but think about how much better this program would be right now had we hired him in December 2012 verses the overpriced cardboard cut out we've had.

I'm not so sure this is the case. No evidence at all Coombs can coach at this level. OSU has lessened his responsibilities. Wish we'd looked elsewhere but no reason to believe Coombs would have been a step up.

(12-04-2016 01:42 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 01:38 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I don't want Coombs either, but think about how much better this program would be right now had we hired him in December 2012 verses the overpriced cardboard cut out we've had.

I'm not so sure this is the case. No evidence at all Coombs can coach at this level. OSU has lessened his responsibilities. Wish we'd looked elsewhere but no reason to believe Coombs would have been a step up.

But imagine if he interviewed! Compare Coombs 4 years ago to Tubs 4 years ago and Coombs is CLEARLY more impressive.

(12-04-2016 11:43 AM)BearcatBallJones Wrote:  ESPN writer just tweeted out that Tuberville will get full buy-out. Announced later in the week. I hope it is the 1.5M not the 2.7M but I think Bohn wanted to accelerate process to get in on Brohm / Fleck before it is too late. Some writers saying Cincinnati more attractive than Baylor + Purdue right now. Fleck if he doesn't get Oregon, could win big here and jump ship (which I'm fine with, we saw what happens in the latter situation).

My thoughts exactly. Leaves with $1.5M and his dignity of resigning vs. being fired.

Does TT have a shot at Baylor?

Quote:"He is a hall of fame coach," AD Mike Bohn said. "We thank him and his staff for their hard work and dedication to Cincinnati. Change is never an easy thing on our student-athletes, but their success and well-being is our primary focus. We will move onward and search for a head coach who can continue the growth of the football program in line with our goals of being class of the league."

Bohn



Just got home and heard the news. Thank you Mike Bohn and anyone else who helped make this happen! We can shed the dead skin and move forward to get our program swagger back! Damn, I am so happy! We are in play for a good coach and UC is definitely one of the more attractive programs hiring. Did you hear that Houston? Gents, a toast! To bigger and better football success in 2017 and beyond!

Like most on here, knew this had to happen and credit to bohn for making a tough but right decision.

Enquirer not only mentions Coombs but Lasalles hilvert. Smh. I think the High school to college head coach has been proven to be not such a good way to go. See, Faust, Gerry.

That said, who could be added to staff that would make a difference locally.

Harlan Barnett. But he is a co def coordinator now in big ten albeit he may be on shaky ground with another down year after this season.

What HS coaches could make a recruiting difference as an Asst here?

If Brohm is not a recruiter type I don't want him. His team's defenses haven't been too good. One trick pony and UC needs a program recruiter most of all. Players and community.

Who did strong piss off here? Colerain? He did get guys to go to U of L. I think UC would be very open to identifying a minority candidate. I think a minority coach might connect with some of the local players. I think that is why strong pulled some of the cincy kids. I would not overlook that aspect of it with the climate at UC. Imagine had that idiot Babcock hired Taggert...UsF clearly hired a much better coach than whit did.

Fleck is probably best candidate.

I'd look hard at Candle.

What I'd like to get is a Matt Rhule type. Guy has done wonders at Temple. I'm really surprised no one has grabbed him from P5.

(12-04-2016 02:01 PM)50Cent Wrote:  Like most on here, knew this had to happen and credit to bohn for making a tough but right decision.

Enquirer not only mentions Coombs but Lasalles hilvert. Smh. I think the High school to college head coach has been proven to be not such a good way to go. See, Faust, Gerry.

That said, who could be added to staff that would make a difference locally.

Harlan Barnett. But he is a co def coordinator now in big ten albeit he may be on shaky ground with another down year after this season.

What HS coaches could make a recruiting difference as an Asst here?

If Brohm is not a recruiter type I don't want him. His team's defenses haven't been too good. One trick pony and UC needs a program recruiter most of all. Players and community.

Who did strong piss off here? Colerain? He did get guys to go to U of L. I think UC would be very open to identifying a minority candidate. I think a minority coach might connect with some of the local players. I think that is why strong pulled some of the cincy kids. I would not overlook that aspect of it with the climate at UC. Imagine had that idiot Babcock hired Taggert...UsF clearly hired a much better coach than whit did.

Fleck is probably best candidate.

I'd look hard at Candle.

What I'd like to get is a Matt Rhule type. Guy has done wonders at Temple. I'm really surprised no one has grabbed him from P5.

If the new coach is looking for a high school coach from the area to add to his staff...Steve Specht is a proven winner. His job this year with the Bombers is nothing short of miraculous.

Hilvert would be a damn good position coach. He'd do a good job recruiting locally as well IMO. I've heard he desperately wants to get out of LaSalle.

(12-04-2016 02:01 PM)50Cent Wrote:  Like most on here, knew this had to happen and credit to bohn for making a tough but right decision.

Enquirer not only mentions Coombs but Lasalles hilvert. Smh. I think the High school to college head coach has been proven to be not such a good way to go. See, Faust, Gerry.

That said, who could be added to staff that would make a difference locally.

Harlan Barnett. But he is a co def coordinator now in big ten albeit he may be on shaky ground with another down year after this season.

What HS coaches could make a recruiting difference as an Asst here?

If Brohm is not a recruiter type I don't want him. His team's defenses haven't been too good. One trick pony and UC needs a program recruiter most of all. Players and community.

Who did strong piss off here? Colerain? He did get guys to go to U of L. I think UC would be very open to identifying a minority candidate. I think a minority coach might connect with some of the local players. I think that is why strong pulled some of the cincy kids. I would not overlook that aspect of it with the climate at UC. Imagine had that idiot Babcock hired Taggert...UsF clearly hired a much better coach than whit did.

Fleck is probably best candidate.

I'd look hard at Candle.

What I'd like to get is a Matt Rhule type. Guy has done wonders at Temple. I'm really surprised no one has grabbed him from P5.

The Enquirer staff must believe UC can't attract a college level HC worth his salt if they are suggesting Hilvert and Combs.

(12-04-2016 02:09 PM)Marcus Wrote:  Hilvert would be a damn good position coach. He'd do a good job recruiting locally as well IMO. I've heard he desperately wants to get out of LaSalle.

Why does he want to leave LaSalle?
They are winning, winning and winning.

(12-04-2016 02:11 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:01 PM)50Cent Wrote:  Like most on here, knew this had to happen and credit to bohn for making a tough but right decision.

Enquirer not only mentions Coombs but Lasalles hilvert. Smh. I think the High school to college head coach has been proven to be not such a good way to go. See, Faust, Gerry.

That said, who could be added to staff that would make a difference locally.

Harlan Barnett. But he is a co def coordinator now in big ten albeit he may be on shaky ground with another down year after this season.

What HS coaches could make a recruiting difference as an Asst here?

If Brohm is not a recruiter type I don't want him. His team's defenses haven't been too good. One trick pony and UC needs a program recruiter most of all. Players and community.

Who did strong piss off here? Colerain? He did get guys to go to U of L. I think UC would be very open to identifying a minority candidate. I think a minority coach might connect with some of the local players. I think that is why strong pulled some of the cincy kids. I would not overlook that aspect of it with the climate at UC. Imagine had that idiot Babcock hired Taggert...UsF clearly hired a much better coach than whit did.

Fleck is probably best candidate.

I'd look hard at Candle.

What I'd like to get is a Matt Rhule type. Guy has done wonders at Temple. I'm really surprised no one has grabbed him from P5.

The Enquirer staff must believe UC can't attract a college level HC worth his salt if they are suggesting Hilvert and Combs.

They are morons if they are mentioning him as potential HC. He'd be a good addition to the staff though.

(12-04-2016 02:12 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-04-2016 02:09 PM)Marcus Wrote:  Hilvert would be a damn good position coach. He'd do a good job recruiting locally as well IMO. I've heard he desperately wants to get out of LaSalle.

Why does he want to leave LaSalle?
They are winning, winning and winning.

He hates their administration and the way they run things from what I've heard. Common theme with the last few coaches they've had.

(12-04-2016 02:01 PM)50Cent Wrote:  Like most on here, knew this had to happen and credit to bohn for making a tough but right decision.

Enquirer not only mentions Coombs but Lasalles hilvert. Smh. I think the High school to college head coach has been proven to be not such a good way to go. See, Faust, Gerry.

That said, who could be added to staff that would make a difference locally.

Harlan Barnett. But he is a co def coordinator now in big ten albeit he may be on shaky ground with another down year after this season.

What HS coaches could make a recruiting difference as an Asst here?

If Brohm is not a recruiter type I don't want him. His team's defenses haven't been too good. One trick pony and UC needs a program recruiter most of all. Players and community.

Who did strong piss off here? Colerain? He did get guys to go to U of L. I think UC would be very open to identifying a minority candidate. I think a minority coach might connect with some of the local players. I think that is why strong pulled some of the cincy kids. I would not overlook that aspect of it with the climate at UC. Imagine had that idiot Babcock hired Taggert...UsF clearly hired a much better coach than whit did.

Fleck is probably best candidate.

I'd look hard at Candle.

What I'd like to get is a Matt Rhule type. Guy has done wonders at Temple. I'm really surprised no one has grabbed him from P5.

I also would like a minority candidate to at least interview, but want the right minority candidate. Strong worries me. With his age, it feels a little like TT. I hate to say it, but who are the minority candidates this year. It seems that African Americans have disappeared from coaching staffs.