Insane_Baboon
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-26-2016 03:05 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: (11-26-2016 12:10 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote: (11-26-2016 12:07 PM)UofMTigers1 Wrote: Charlie Strong walked into a Texas program that needed to be cleaned up. He did that and recruited well and now Tom Herman gets to start off with a stocked team.
His big mistake was not thinking big and hiring the best assistants he could find. He brought his Louisville people and had to fire almost his entire staff over the past 3 years.
he tried...not a lot of OCs wanted the job
That was because he tried after he had to fire his initial hire after 2 years. He needed to make the big hires from day 1, not 2 years later after he has to fire his Louisville buddies.
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
Two year AAC conference standings.
Navy 14-2
Temple 13-2 (1 game to play)
USF 13-3
Houston 12-4 (8-0 home 4-4 road)
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-26-2016 07:05 PM)kmst19a Wrote: Two year AAC conference standings.
Navy 14-2
Temple 13-2 (1 game to play)
USF 13-3
Houston 12-4 (8-0 home 4-4 road)
Get Niumatalolo, Rhule, and Taggert more money now!
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
Employed vs unemployed
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-26-2016 01:19 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Herman will find out real quick there is a huge difference between coaching at UH in the AAC and Texas in the B12. He is going from the minor leagues to the pro's
That's funny, because conference undefeated Oklahoma was roughed up by the 6th place team in the AAC and it wasn't a fluke. It's not like UH jumped to a big lead and held on for dear life, they blew them out stone cold.
It's only a step up in the sense that the Big 12 doesn't have to deal with discrimination in the CFP poll. The AAC was better than the Big 12 this year, who is their second best team, Oklahoma State? LOL
Navy and Houston were better than Oklahoma and Oklahoma State this year, and very possibly 2 more AAC teams. And suddenly Navy's second worst loss doesn't look so bad, (Air Force, at 9-3). If the committee had any integrity, they'd put Navy in the top ten.
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-27-2016 02:17 AM)_C2_ Wrote: (11-26-2016 01:19 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Herman will find out real quick there is a huge difference between coaching at UH in the AAC and Texas in the B12. He is going from the minor leagues to the pro's
That's funny, because conference undefeated Oklahoma was roughed up by the 6th place team in the AAC and it wasn't a fluke. It's not like UH jumped to a big lead and held on for dear life, they blew them out stone cold.
It's only a step up in the sense that the Big 12 doesn't have to deal with discrimination in the CFP poll. The AAC was better than the Big 12 this year, who is their second best team, Oklahoma State? LOL
Navy and Houston were better than Oklahoma and Oklahoma State this year, and very possibly 2 more AAC teams. And suddenly Navy's second worst loss doesn't look so bad, (Air Force, at 9-3). If the committee had any integrity, they'd put Navy in the top ten.
If the committee had any integrity, they wouldn't be on the committee. All you have to do is look at how many undeserving p5 schools are ranked and how many deserving g5 schools are ranked lower than they should be or not ranked at all, especially the ones from the AAC,
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-27-2016 02:17 AM)_C2_ Wrote: (11-26-2016 01:19 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Herman will find out real quick there is a huge difference between coaching at UH in the AAC and Texas in the B12. He is going from the minor leagues to the pro's
That's funny, because conference undefeated Oklahoma was roughed up by the 6th place team in the AAC and it wasn't a fluke. It's not like UH jumped to a big lead and held on for dear life, they blew them out stone cold.
It's only a step up in the sense that the Big 12 doesn't have to deal with discrimination in the CFP poll. The AAC was better than the Big 12 this year, who is their second best team, Oklahoma State? LOL
Navy and Houston were better than Oklahoma and Oklahoma State this year, and very possibly 2 more AAC teams. And suddenly Navy's second worst loss doesn't look so bad, (Air Force, at 9-3). If the committee had any integrity, they'd put Navy in the top ten.
it is a step up in many ways...program money earnings, prestige, fan base size, popularity, gear sales, personal salary, size of athletic budget, conference affiliation (one year does not a trend), etc etc etc
its a GIANT step up any way you slice it...sorry UH
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-26-2016 12:10 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote: (11-26-2016 12:07 PM)UofMTigers1 Wrote: Charlie Strong walked into a Texas program that needed to be cleaned up. He did that and recruited well and now Tom Herman gets to start off with a stocked team.
His big mistake was not thinking big and hiring the best assistants he could find. He brought his Louisville people and had to fire almost his entire staff over the past 3 years.
Good point as most of his old UL staff (including himself) had very little coaching experience in TX.
Herman and his staff (probably a lot from UH), won't miss a step when it comes to recruiting with all of their contacts now.
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-27-2016 02:17 AM)_C2_ Wrote: (11-26-2016 01:19 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: Herman will find out real quick there is a huge difference between coaching at UH in the AAC and Texas in the B12. He is going from the minor leagues to the pro's
That's funny, because conference undefeated Oklahoma was roughed up by the 6th place team in the AAC and it wasn't a fluke. It's not like UH jumped to a big lead and held on for dear life, they blew them out stone cold.
It's only a step up in the sense that the Big 12 doesn't have to deal with discrimination in the CFP poll. The AAC was better than the Big 12 this year, who is their second best team, Oklahoma State? LOL
Navy and Houston were better than Oklahoma and Oklahoma State this year, and very possibly 2 more AAC teams. And suddenly Navy's second worst loss doesn't look so bad, (Air Force, at 9-3). If the committee had any integrity, they'd put Navy in the top ten.
A big rivalry game at 6000 feet can be easy to lose if you aren't altitude acclimated.
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-26-2016 12:22 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: (11-26-2016 12:07 PM)UofMTigers1 Wrote: Charlie Strong walked into a Texas program that needed to be cleaned up. He did that and recruited well and now Tom Herman gets to start off with a stocked team.
Well now Strong can go to a Houston program that is already ready to go.
With the right assistants I wouldn't be opposed to this. However if I was Strong I would be swimming in my money like Scrooge McDuck.
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-28-2016 07:43 AM)uhmump95 Wrote: (11-26-2016 12:22 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: (11-26-2016 12:07 PM)UofMTigers1 Wrote: Charlie Strong walked into a Texas program that needed to be cleaned up. He did that and recruited well and now Tom Herman gets to start off with a stocked team.
Well now Strong can go to a Houston program that is already ready to go.
With the right assistants I wouldn't be opposed to this. However if I was Strong I would be swimming in my money like Scrooge McDuck.
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Strong's Texas buyout drops based on if he is hired to coach again (approx $10.5 Million minus his new annual salary).
Might be best for Strong to sit out a year...maybe get some guest TV appearances...as his image/reputation will only improve over time...and the stench from failed Austin experience will begin to dissipate.
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
I actually liked Tom Herman. Now, I identify him as a lying piece of trash! He kissed his players before games and got on national TV before the Memphis game an said the media was lying and the only job he is focusing on is his current one. I hope he fails at Texas, worst than Charlie Strong did!
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-26-2016 02:23 PM)panicstricken Wrote: Tulsa will go into Austin and beat Texas like a drum next year.
Gunna be more like your Ohio St. game when little Urban Myer is done.
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RE: Tom Herman Compared to Charlie Strong
(11-26-2016 12:10 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote: (11-26-2016 12:07 PM)UofMTigers1 Wrote: Charlie Strong walked into a Texas program that needed to be cleaned up. He did that and recruited well and now Tom Herman gets to start off with a stocked team.
His big mistake was not thinking big and hiring the best assistants he could find. He brought his Louisville people and had to fire almost his entire staff over the past 3 years.
Then Herman is repeating that, it appears he is taking most of our staff with him. We will be pretty much starting from scratch, even if we go with an internal hire.
Personally, I think Tom will be wildly successful at Texas. Herman knows how to game plan and motivate. Talent is something Texas has never been short of under Strong----Charlie just didn't know how to use it effectively. I hats about to change at UT.
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