(02-19-2017 12:28 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 08:02 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Officials at UH are horrible

Speaking for horrible officiating, there was apparently a BOGO offer on travelling violations today at the Tulsa game.

Frank Haith was not happy about it either and I think that led to his technical foul.

^they had a few travelling calls that were not travelling. That one on Jenifer at the top of the key near the end of the first half was pathetic.

Depends on how you look at it. Troy travels on almost every dribble (often takes an extra step before the ball leaves his hand, carries the ball every dribble). But they usually don't call that stuff on anyone these days.

I thought they were all legitimate traveling calls, just many officials refuse to call it anymore. Consistency on that front would be a good thing.

Palming the ball now has to be so extreme to be called.

The ball handling of today would have been palming on every possession in the 60's or 70's I think Oscar commented on that.

UConn comes from behind to beat Temple on a shot with under three seconds remaining.

(02-19-2017 05:57 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  UConn comes from behind to beat Temple on a shot with under three seconds remaining.

Temple sucks

(02-19-2017 06:00 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 05:57 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  UConn comes from behind to beat Temple on a shot with under three seconds remaining.

Temple sucks

and UConn is doing what UConn does under Kevin Ollie...not care about the early season and bring it on in the last 10 or so games. Watch them win the conference tourney and get the AAC autobid.

UC better bring it in Hartford or they are going to lose to UConn and come in second in the AAC.

(02-19-2017 06:06 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 06:00 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 05:57 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  UConn comes from behind to beat Temple on a shot with under three seconds remaining.

Temple sucks

and UConn is doing what UConn does under Kevin Ollie...not care about the early season and bring it on in the last 10 or so games. Watch them win the conference tourney and get the AAC autobid.

UC better bring it in Hartford or they are going to lose to UConn and come in second in the AAC.

Yep. It's not a knock on our team but I still feel a loss @ UCONN to close the season is a distinct possibility. That makes it critical to avoid a home loss to Memphis or Houston or a road loss @ UCF. I believe SMU will lose one more down the stretch but who knows.

I'm glad the AAC has another quality team in a down year but I also want UC to make a statement by winning this conference this season. Our University (and our city) needs to start hanging some banners again. Now is the time. Go 'Cats!

(02-19-2017 06:25 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 06:06 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 06:00 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 05:57 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  UConn comes from behind to beat Temple on a shot with under three seconds remaining.

Temple sucks

and UConn is doing what UConn does under Kevin Ollie...not care about the early season and bring it on in the last 10 or so games. Watch them win the conference tourney and get the AAC autobid.

UC better bring it in Hartford or they are going to lose to UConn and come in second in the AAC.

Yep. It's not a knock on our team but I still feel a loss @ UCONN to close the season is a distinct possibility. That makes it critical to avoid a home loss to Memphis or Houston or a road loss @ UCF. I believe SMU will lose one more down the stretch but who knows.

I'm glad the AAC has another quality team in a down year but I also want UC to make a statement by winning this conference this season. Our University (and our city) needs to start hanging some banners again. Now is the time. Go 'Cats!

Amen. The city needs it and it would be an idea time for UC to make some serious noise and get the city's attention with the Reds, Bengals and XU struggling.
Go Bearcats!

(02-19-2017 06:06 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 06:00 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 05:57 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  UConn comes from behind to beat Temple on a shot with under three seconds remaining.

Temple sucks

and UConn is doing what UConn does under Kevin Ollie...not care about the early season and bring it on in the last 10 or so games. Watch them win the conference tourney and get the AAC autobid.

UC better bring it in Hartford or they are going to lose to UConn and come in second in the AAC.

SMU still has to play up there as well.

AAC down to 3 sub 100 RPI teams. What an embarrassment

(02-19-2017 09:13 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Palming the ball now has to be so extreme to be called.

The ball handling of today would have been palming on every possession in the 60's or 70's I think Oscar commented on that.

I think they called palming twice during the SMU game.

(02-20-2017 12:07 AM)payday Wrote:  AAC down to 3 sub 100 RPI teams. What an embarrassment

Basketball has two strikes against it in this conference:

-several schools with zero brand recognition, zero history in hoops, and an overall culture that basketball doesn't matter that much to them

-the teams with a pedigree suck right now (Memphis, Temple, UCONN)


that is killing the perception. If UCONN, Memphis, and Temple at least were ranked along with UC/SMU then we would at least have that going for us. People would say it's a top heavy conference and after the first five you have nothing (like in CUSA days). But cripes, we don't even have that. Winning the AAC is like winning the Mo Valley or any other mid major or even minor right now. That's why we lost at SMU and dropped 6 or 7 slots. There is zero respect nationally for the AAC in hoops right now and it's killing us.

my take on this situation is this:

Football in the AAC looks good today and is causing I believe false hope. We are still near to the recent shift (P5/G5 split whereby power schools are getting $30mil/yr a piece and we are getting $2mil/yr or worse). The AAC is good in football and has held its own. The crowds have been good, the ratings good etc. This is causing many AAC fans to think that we just need to hold and and it will all come around down the road (money, tv deal, basketball, etc.). I think that is fools gold thinking now.

The more years that pass and P5's, even crap ones make $30mil + and we all make peanuts is another year towards the end game which is, G5 becoming the new FCS. This talk of the G5 playoff is only the beginning and points to that as well. When that happens, football is over for us, at least as we know it now. It becomes 'second rate' in the minds of the nation at that point, just like the current FCS is now. When that happens, and it will, the only major sport we have left that still can compete on the national level is men's hoops.

That's why I'd like to see UC and UCONN, plus whoever else (Temple, Memphis) get to the Big East in hoops. This way, when the football bus turns into the football short bus for us all, we are still at least competing in a big boy conference in hoops.

i know this thinking looks stupid today because the AAC football has been good and holding its own, but my point is, that isn't going to last forever due to the financial discrepancy that has been created with this P5/G5 split. So the move in hoops to the Big East is more a move for the future.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the AAC all in all, but we have to be looking down the road and when we do, that's what I see.

(02-20-2017 07:32 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 12:07 AM)payday Wrote:  AAC down to 3 sub 100 RPI teams. What an embarrassment

Basketball has two strikes against it in this conference:

-several schools with zero brand recognition, zero history in hoops, and an overall culture that basketball doesn't matter that much to them

-the teams with a pedigree suck right now (Memphis, Temple, UCONN)


that is killing the perception. If UCONN, Memphis, and Temple at least were ranked along with UC/SMU then we would at least have that going for us. People would say it's a top heavy conference and after the first five you have nothing (like in CUSA days). But cripes, we don't even have that. Winning the AAC is like winning the Mo Valley or any other mid major or even minor right now. That's why we lost at SMU and dropped 6 or 7 slots. There is zero respect nationally for the AAC in hoops right now and it's killing us.

Was almost inevitable with how much financial emphasis is placed by the AAC schools on developing football infrastructure. Everyone saw that as the potential ticket out of Dodge.

(02-20-2017 07:48 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  my take on this situation is this:

Football in the AAC looks good today and is causing I believe false hope. We are still near to the recent shift (P5/G5 split whereby power schools are getting $30mil/yr a piece and we are getting $2mil/yr or worse). The AAC is good in football and has held its own. The crowds have been good, the ratings good etc. This is causing many AAC fans to think that we just need to hold and and it will all come around down the road (money, tv deal, basketball, etc.). I think that is fools gold thinking now.

The more years that pass and P5's, even crap ones make $30mil + and we all make peanuts is another year towards the end game which is, G5 becoming the new FCS. This talk of the G5 playoff is only the beginning and points to that as well. When that happens, football is over for us, at least as we know it now. It becomes 'second rate' in the minds of the nation at that point, just like the current FCS is now. When that happens, and it will, the only major sport we have left that still can compete on the national level is men's hoops.

That's why I'd like to see UC and UCONN, plus whoever else (Temple, Memphis) get to the Big East in hoops. This way, when the football bus turns into the football short bus for us all, we are still at least competing in a big boy conference in hoops.

i know this thinking looks stupid today because the AAC football has been good and holding its own, but my point is, that isn't going to last forever due to the financial discrepancy that has been created with this P5/G5 split. So the move in hoops to the Big East is more a move for the future.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the AAC all in all, but we have to be looking down the road and when we do, that's what I see.

I don't foresee the Big East being that much better than the AAC when the dust settles to justify that move, and leaving the AAC relegates us to a conference lower than MAC in football. Our football is our big revenue generator - our stadium has been renovated to reinforce that.

The other thing is with the demise of cable, I don't foresee the larger conferences getting too much more money per school than they do now unless the model of revenue changes for everyone (which should make it easier for non-traditional schools to establish themselves). We've already seen the failure of the Longhorn Network, the PAC-12 isn't doing too well, and ESPN is losing subscribers hand over fist.

Bottom line: realignment will occur again, and we need to stay in the most competitive conferences for all sports and need to continue building ourselves academically so that we can to ensure we are well-positioned when it happens. Jumping to the Big East does not do that for us. The AAC is the best we can hope for at the moment, and hopefully that changes soon.

UC #15 in new AP Poll. SMU #17. Iowa State just outside at #28. Xavier no longer receiving any votes.

(02-20-2017 10:43 AM)crex043 Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 07:48 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  my take on this situation is this:

Football in the AAC looks good today and is causing I believe false hope. We are still near to the recent shift (P5/G5 split whereby power schools are getting $30mil/yr a piece and we are getting $2mil/yr or worse). The AAC is good in football and has held its own. The crowds have been good, the ratings good etc. This is causing many AAC fans to think that we just need to hold and and it will all come around down the road (money, tv deal, basketball, etc.). I think that is fools gold thinking now.

The more years that pass and P5's, even crap ones make $30mil + and we all make peanuts is another year towards the end game which is, G5 becoming the new FCS. This talk of the G5 playoff is only the beginning and points to that as well. When that happens, football is over for us, at least as we know it now. It becomes 'second rate' in the minds of the nation at that point, just like the current FCS is now. When that happens, and it will, the only major sport we have left that still can compete on the national level is men's hoops.

That's why I'd like to see UC and UCONN, plus whoever else (Temple, Memphis) get to the Big East in hoops. This way, when the football bus turns into the football short bus for us all, we are still at least competing in a big boy conference in hoops.

i know this thinking looks stupid today because the AAC football has been good and holding its own, but my point is, that isn't going to last forever due to the financial discrepancy that has been created with this P5/G5 split. So the move in hoops to the Big East is more a move for the future.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the AAC all in all, but we have to be looking down the road and when we do, that's what I see.

I don't foresee the Big East being that much better than the AAC when the dust settles to justify that move, and leaving the AAC relegates us to a conference lower than MAC in football. Our football is our big revenue generator - our stadium has been renovated to reinforce that.

The other thing is with the demise of cable, I don't foresee the larger conferences getting too much more money per school than they do now unless the model of revenue changes for everyone (which should make it easier for non-traditional schools to establish themselves). We've already seen the failure of the Longhorn Network, the PAC-12 isn't doing too well, and ESPN is losing subscribers hand over fist.

Bottom line: realignment will occur again, and we need to stay in the most competitive conferences for all sports and need to continue building ourselves academically so that we can to ensure we are well-positioned when it happens. Jumping to the Big East does not do that for us. The AAC is the best we can hope for at the moment, and hopefully that changes soon.

Well said, I agree. Looking at a snapshot of the 2017 regular season the new BE and AAC may seem worlds apart. The new BE enjoys the halo effect their brand generates; the AAC has work to do in that regard.

The reality since the BE split is quite different in terms of the top programs. Each conference produced one national champion. The top of the AAC has great coaches in place, large universities with strong attendance and rich tradition and will compete effectively.

There will be more realignment and UC remains on course to stand tall when that day arrives.

(02-20-2017 12:19 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  UC #15 in new AP Poll. SMU #17. Iowa State just outside at #28. Xavier no longer receiving any votes.

Guess ESPN's Jeff Goodman will finally have to stop including X in his power rankings?

(02-20-2017 04:09 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(02-20-2017 12:19 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  UC #15 in new AP Poll. SMU #17. Iowa State just outside at #28. Xavier no longer receiving any votes.

Guess ESPN's Jeff Goodman will finally have to stop including X in his power rankings?

Lunardi has X as a 7 seed in his bracketology (UC is 5 seed)