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Merry Christmas and Happy easter to you. Lol.

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There is nothing to feel guilty about.
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(11-24-2016 10:24 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:23 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:17 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:52 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 06:47 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  He's seeking a reaction he won't get. Easter will receive a reaction though, probably from this guy.

That's the very reason I posted it. I've tried unsuccessfully for several years to put a stop to the Easter bull**** on a sports board. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

You seem angry.

Pray for him.

I pray for everyone.

Let me know when you're praying for me so that I can think for you.
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(11-24-2016 10:30 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:24 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:23 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:17 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:52 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  That's the very reason I posted it. I've tried unsuccessfully for several years to put a stop to the Easter bull**** on a sports board. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

You seem angry.

Pray for him.

I pray for everyone.

Let me know when you're praying for me so that I can think for you.

Good Vibrations?
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(11-24-2016 09:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:03 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Only a moron believes in evolution.

No "missing link" has ever been found. Humans did NOT come from monkeys.

Evolution of a species within a species yes, but not one species evolving into another.


If you're still looking for a missing link you're several decades behind on the convo

(11-24-2016 10:08 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:03 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Only a moron believes in evolution.

No "missing link" has ever been found. Humans did NOT come from monkeys.

Evolution of a species within a species yes, but not one species evolving into another.


If you're still looking for a missing link you're several decades behind on the convo

There is no "missing link". That's a misnomer. But the fossil record contains thousands of intermediate fossils. If anyone really cared to learn about evolution, it's fairly easy to do. The fossil record is immense. The DNA evidence is immense.

A good start is to read Evolution: What the Fossils Say and Why It Matters by Donald Prothero. If you haven't read that book then you probably won't have a good rebuttal against evolution.



Cool story.


Once again. There is ZERO scientific proof of one species evolving into another one. ZERO, ZILCH, NADDA, GOOSE EGG.
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(11-24-2016 10:13 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:03 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Only a moron believes in evolution.

No "missing link" has ever been found. Humans did NOT come from monkeys.

Evolution of a species within a species yes, but not one species evolving into another.

Holding beliefs or accepting claims that are not supported by evidence is irrational. Evolution has long ago been accepted as fact due to the overwhelming evidence.

"Species" is an arbitrary delineation created by humans. It isn't a real, physical boundary that stops evolution.

You are free to reject it but that has no bearing on its truth.



One species evolving into another species has NOT been scientifically accepted.

You keep holding on to your beliefs if you wish, but you beliefs are not supported by evidence. Guess that makes them irrational?
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(11-24-2016 10:29 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  There is nothing to feel guilty about.

A woman posted on facebook that she needed a life-saving surgery in a clinic on the other side of the country. She said that she had no way to get to the clinic as she was out of money and had no means of transportation.

After a week of "I'll pray for you" platitudes, an atheist friend posted that she'd buy her a plane ticket. Then the flood gates open on the "Praise God" platitudes.

:facepalm: 03-banghead

Two hands at work accomplish more than millions clasped in prayer.
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(11-24-2016 10:24 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:17 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:52 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 06:47 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  He's seeking a reaction he won't get. Easter will receive a reaction though, probably from this guy.

That's the very reason I posted it. I've tried unsuccessfully for several years to put a stop to the Easter bull**** on a sports board. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

You seem angry.

Sorry if I came across as angry. I'm not angry but rather annoyed by all the religious (and other irrelevant) material that is posted on a sports message board. I gave up trying to dissuade people from posting the stuff on this board so now I post some things that are truly worth appreciating. Examples of reason and logic that truly changed the world.



Your arrogance is truly comical.

Truly changed the world? hahahaah, Surrrrre it did.
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(11-24-2016 10:40 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:03 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Only a moron believes in evolution.

No "missing link" has ever been found. Humans did NOT come from monkeys.

Evolution of a species within a species yes, but not one species evolving into another.


If you're still looking for a missing link you're several decades behind on the convo

(11-24-2016 10:08 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:56 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:03 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Only a moron believes in evolution.

No "missing link" has ever been found. Humans did NOT come from monkeys.

Evolution of a species within a species yes, but not one species evolving into another.


If you're still looking for a missing link you're several decades behind on the convo

There is no "missing link". That's a misnomer. But the fossil record contains thousands of transitional fossils. If anyone really cared to learn about evolution, it's fairly easy to do. The fossil record is immense. The DNA evidence is immense.

A good start is to read Evolution: What the Fossils Say and Why It Matters by Donald Prothero. If you haven't read that book then you probably won't have a good rebuttal against evolution.



Cool story.


Once again. There is ZERO scientific proof of one species evolving into another one. ZERO, ZILCH, NADDA, GOOSE EGG.

And you would be wrong. Just take a look at the evidence. Google ring species.
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No gods. No kings. Only man.
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(11-24-2016 10:41 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:13 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 08:03 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Only a moron believes in evolution.

No "missing link" has ever been found. Humans did NOT come from monkeys.

Evolution of a species within a species yes, but not one species evolving into another.

Holding beliefs or accepting claims that are not supported by evidence is irrational. Evolution has long ago been accepted as fact due to the overwhelming evidence.

"Species" is an arbitrary delineation created by humans. It isn't a real, physical boundary that stops evolution.

You are free to reject it but that has no bearing on its truth.



One species evolving into another species has NOT been scientifically accepted.

You keep holding on to your beliefs if you wish, but you beliefs are not supported by evidence. Guess that makes them irrational?

You are demonstrably wrong. Read up on recent evolutionary evidence (evidence that is younger than fifty years old) and get back to me.

Science has long ago accepted the fact of evolution and postulated a theory to explain how it works.

Evolution is merely the propogation of allele changes throughout a population. The best explanation so far to explain it is the natural selection of advantageous allele changes.
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(11-24-2016 10:43 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:24 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:17 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:52 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 06:47 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  He's seeking a reaction he won't get. Easter will receive a reaction though, probably from this guy.

That's the very reason I posted it. I've tried unsuccessfully for several years to put a stop to the Easter bull**** on a sports board. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

You seem angry.

Sorry if I came across as angry. I'm not angry but rather annoyed by all the religious (and other irrelevant) material that is posted on a sports message board. I gave up trying to dissuade people from posting the stuff on this board so now I post some things that are truly worth appreciating. Examples of reason and logic that truly changed the world.



Your arrogance is truly comical.

Truly changed the world? hahahaah, Surrrrre it did.

How does one even respond to this?

Let me try this. So that I may better understand your position on your god could you please answer these questions?

Which god do you believe in?
Why do you believe?
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No one "knows". Scientists are often wrong. Even when they "know" something.
Want "proof"?
We don't know
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(11-24-2016 11:08 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  No one "knows". Scientists are often wrong. Even when they "know" something.
Want "proof"?
We don't know

Of course science is sometimes wrong. That's the beauty of the scientific method. It goes where the evidence leads. When new evidence suggests a different truth, it changes its mind.

Science never makes claims of absolute truth. It only claims truths that are supported by a preponderance of evidence. It works in the long run because it lets the evidence lead to the truth.

Individual scientists sometimes enter an investigation with preconceived notions and fall prey to the problem of ignoring contrary evidence. But the scientific method eventually weeds out erroneous conclusions when other scientists review that research. Sometimes it may take decades to weed out these erroneous conclusions but they eventually get weeded out.

Religion, OTOH, makes initial claims and rejects evidence that doesn't support the claim while accepting the evidence that does. It never changes the claim. That process is disingenuous at best.
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(11-24-2016 10:55 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:43 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:24 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:17 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 09:52 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  That's the very reason I posted it. I've tried unsuccessfully for several years to put a stop to the Easter bull**** on a sports board. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

You seem angry.

Sorry if I came across as angry. I'm not angry but rather annoyed by all the religious (and other irrelevant) material that is posted on a sports message board. I gave up trying to dissuade people from posting the stuff on this board so now I post some things that are truly worth appreciating. Examples of reason and logic that truly changed the world.



Your arrogance is truly comical.

Truly changed the world? hahahaah, Surrrrre it did.

How does one even respond to this?

Let me try this. So that I may better understand your position on your god could you please answer these questions?

Which god do you believe in?
Why do you believe?

FlyHawk98, I'm willing to conduct a civil discussion with you about your belief in your god. If you are too, simply answer the two questions above. No insults from me. Just civil discourse.
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(11-24-2016 11:18 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 11:08 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  No one "knows". Scientists are often wrong. Even when they "know" something.
Want "proof"?
We don't know

Of course science is sometimes wrong. That's the beauty of the scientific method. It goes where the evidence leads. When new evidence suggests a different truth, it changes its mind.

Science never makes claims of absolute truth. It only claims truths that are supported by a preponderance of evidence. It works in the long run because it lets the evidence lead to the truth.

Religion, OTOH, makes initial claims and rejects evidence that doesn't support the claim while accepting the evidence that does. That process is disingenuous at best.

You are absolutely right. But you fail to understand faith. Even people who are not religious by the common definition look for meaning in life. Some worship 'Mother Earth' for goodness sake. Many things cannot be explained by physical science. You can choose your own path and that is is beautiful thing about this existence. No need to call people who choose to believe in religion ignorant or stupid. Many of the very scientists you undoubtedly consider geniuses believe in a 'divine hand'. I remember one geneticist saying the odds were greater that a tornado plowing through a junkyard would assemble a fully functional 747 jet than DNA simply being formed from chemicals boiling around in some primordial soup. The facts if you want to believe them is that we simply do not know and since science tells us we can't go back in time we will never 'KNOW'.
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So we can lay this thread to rest.. Or move it. Same thing different season. I don't have anything against either. Just shouldn't go here imo.

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(11-24-2016 11:48 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 11:18 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 11:08 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  No one "knows". Scientists are often wrong. Even when they "know" something.
Want "proof"?
We don't know

Of course science is sometimes wrong. That's the beauty of the scientific method. It goes where the evidence leads. When new evidence suggests a different truth, it changes its mind.

Science never makes claims of absolute truth. It only claims truths that are supported by a preponderance of evidence. It works in the long run because it lets the evidence lead to the truth.

Religion, OTOH, makes initial claims and rejects evidence that doesn't support the claim while accepting the evidence that does. That process is disingenuous at best.

You are absolutely right. But you fail to understand faith. Even people who are not religious by the common definition look for meaning in life. Some worship 'Mother Earth' for goodness sake. Many things cannot be explained by physical science. You can choose your own path and that is is beautiful thing about this existence. No need to call people who choose to believe in religion ignorant or stupid. Many of the very scientists you undoubtedly consider geniuses believe in a 'divine hand'. I remember one geneticist saying the odds were greater that a tornado plowing through a junkyard would assemble a fully functional 747 jet than DNA simply being formed from chemicals boiling around in some primordial soup. The facts if you want to believe them is that we simply do not know and since science tells us we can't go back in time we will never 'KNOW'.

I understand faith to be believing without corroborating evidence. I try to avoid that.

I don't recall stating that religious people were ignorant or stupid. I said they were irrational on that particular subject.

You are right that many things can't be explained. So why do you attempt to explain it with "God did it"? Instead, just say "I don't know". That's what science does.
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(11-24-2016 11:34 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:55 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:43 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:24 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 10:17 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  You seem angry.

Sorry if I came across as angry. I'm not angry but rather annoyed by all the religious (and other irrelevant) material that is posted on a sports message board. I gave up trying to dissuade people from posting the stuff on this board so now I post some things that are truly worth appreciating. Examples of reason and logic that truly changed the world.



Your arrogance is truly comical.

Truly changed the world? hahahaah, Surrrrre it did.

How does one even respond to this?

Let me try this. So that I may better understand your position on your god could you please answer these questions?

Which god do you believe in?
Why do you believe?

FlyHawk98, I'm willing to conduct a civil discussion with you about your belief in your god. If you are too, simply answer the two questions above. No insults from me. Just civil discourse.

I guess your faith isn't that strong. Oh well. Later.
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(11-25-2016 12:23 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 11:48 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 11:18 PM)Funslinger Wrote:  
(11-24-2016 11:08 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  No one "knows". Scientists are often wrong. Even when they "know" something.
Want "proof"?
We don't know

Of course science is sometimes wrong. That's the beauty of the scientific method. It goes where the evidence leads. When new evidence suggests a different truth, it changes its mind.

Science never makes claims of absolute truth. It only claims truths that are supported by a preponderance of evidence. It works in the long run because it lets the evidence lead to the truth.

Religion, OTOH, makes initial claims and rejects evidence that doesn't support the claim while accepting the evidence that does. That process is disingenuous at best.

You are absolutely right. But you fail to understand faith. Even people who are not religious by the common definition look for meaning in life. Some worship 'Mother Earth' for goodness sake. Many things cannot be explained by physical science. You can choose your own path and that is is beautiful thing about this existence. No need to call people who choose to believe in religion ignorant or stupid. Many of the very scientists you undoubtedly consider geniuses believe in a 'divine hand'. I remember one geneticist saying the odds were greater that a tornado plowing through a junkyard would assemble a fully functional 747 jet than DNA simply being formed from chemicals boiling around in some primordial soup. The facts if you want to believe them is that we simply do not know and since science tells us we can't go back in time we will never 'KNOW'.

I understand faith to be believing without corroborating evidence. I try to avoid that.

I don't recall stating that religious people were ignorant or stupid. I said they were irrational on that particular subject.

You are right that many things can't be explained. So why do you attempt to explain it with "God did it"? Instead, just say "I don't know". That's what science does.

So you put your faith in science. You to worship something. Many including the likes of Elon Musk believe with some certainty that we are living in a hologram. Your scientists are developing experimental equipment and theoretical experiments to test that theory in the near future. So I ask you, if they are right, who created this hologram? There are also theoretical physicists that say soon there will more sentient beings living in computer simulations than humans living in 'our world'. And these beings will have no knowledge of us. Who do you think they will worship?
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