G5 Conference
American =32,368
MWC = 24,341
CUSA = 20,376
Sun Belt = 19,583
MAC = approximately 16.5K

NonP5 Schools Over 30K
BYU = 61,655
ECU = 45,040
Houston = 38,179
San Diego St = 37,902
USF = 37,786
Memphis = 37,482
UCF = 35,935
Cincy = 34,883
Boise = 34,530
Army = 33,744
Navy = 33,322
Air Force = 30,793

Barely Missed It (28K+)
Southern Miss = 29,072

P5 Schools Less than 40K (11)
Virginia = 39,929
Oregon St = 36,828
Northwestern = 35,594
Purdue = 35,116
Syracuse = 32,896
Boston College = 31,344
Wash St = 31,325
Vandy = 30,395
Duke = 29,895
Kansas = 25,859
Wake Forest = 25,763

(11-13-2016 10:51 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  G5 Conference
American =32,368
MWC = 24,341
CUSA = 20,376
Sun Belt = 19,583
MAC = approximately 16.5K

NonP5 Schools Over 30K
BYU = 61,655
ECU = 45,040
Houston = 38,179
San Diego St = 37,902
USF = 37,786
Memphis = 37,482
UCF = 35,935
Cincy = 34,883
Boise = 34,530
Army = 33,744
Navy = 33,322
Air Force = 30,793

Barely Missed It (28K+)
Southern Miss = 29,072

P5 Schools Less than 40K (11)
Virginia = 39,929
Oregon St = 36,828
Northwestern = 35,594
Purdue = 35,116
Syracuse = 32,896
Boston College = 31,344
Wash St = 31,325
Vandy = 30,395
Duke = 29,895
Kansas = 25,859
Wake Forest = 25,763

We should be dropping like a rock in a pond soon. There were maybe 30k in the stands on Saturday...when the game started.

Good looking attendance numbers.

(11-13-2016 10:51 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  G5 Conference
American =32,368
MWC = 24,341
CUSA = 20,376
Sun Belt = 19,583
MAC = approximately 16.5K

NonP5 Schools Over 30K
BYU = 61,655
ECU = 45,040
Houston = 38,179
San Diego St = 37,902
USF = 37,786
Memphis = 37,482
UCF = 35,935
Cincy = 34,883
Boise = 34,530
Army = 33,744
Navy = 33,322
Air Force = 30,793

Barely Missed It (28K+)
Southern Miss = 29,072

P5 Schools Less than 40K (11)
Virginia = 39,929
Oregon St = 36,828
Northwestern = 35,594
Purdue = 35,116
Syracuse = 32,896
Boston College = 31,344
Wash St = 31,325
Vandy = 30,395
Duke = 29,895
Kansas = 25,859
Wake Forest = 25,763

5 of the 11 P5's under 40k are ACC, 2 are Big 10 2 are PAC 12, 1 is SEC and 1 is Big 12. For all the doom and gloom about the big 12, their fans still show up to the games. Even if OU and Texas left the Big 12, they would still have better attendance than the ACC. Significantly better. It goes back to the flagship school thing IMHO. State identity typically trumps city identity in college football, I don't know how that ever changes.
Cheers!

(11-13-2016 10:51 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  G5 Conference
American =32,368
MWC = 24,341
CUSA = 20,376
Sun Belt = 19,583
MAC = approximately 16.5K

NonP5 Schools Over 30K
BYU = 61,655
ECU = 45,040
Houston = 38,179
San Diego St = 37,902
USF = 37,786
Memphis = 37,482
UCF = 35,935
Cincy = 34,883
Boise = 34,530
Army = 33,744
Navy = 33,322
Air Force = 30,793

Barely Missed It (28K+)
Southern Miss = 29,072

P5 Schools Less than 40K (11)
Virginia = 39,929
Oregon St = 36,828
Northwestern = 35,594
Purdue = 35,116
Syracuse = 32,896
Boston College = 31,344
Wash St = 31,325
Vandy = 30,395
Duke = 29,895
Kansas = 25,859
Wake Forest = 25,763

But, but, but these schools are BIG TIME. Sooo much better than every single AAC team due to their POWER label. Every one of these programs has earned a spot at the power table.

(11-14-2016 01:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-13-2016 10:51 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  G5 Conference
American =32,368
MWC = 24,341
CUSA = 20,376
Sun Belt = 19,583
MAC = approximately 16.5K

NonP5 Schools Over 30K
BYU = 61,655
ECU = 45,040
Houston = 38,179
San Diego St = 37,902
USF = 37,786
Memphis = 37,482
UCF = 35,935
Cincy = 34,883
Boise = 34,530
Army = 33,744
Navy = 33,322
Air Force = 30,793

Barely Missed It (28K+)
Southern Miss = 29,072

P5 Schools Less than 40K (11)
Virginia = 39,929
Oregon St = 36,828
Northwestern = 35,594
Purdue = 35,116
Syracuse = 32,896
Boston College = 31,344
Wash St = 31,325
Vandy = 30,395
Duke = 29,895
Kansas = 25,859
Wake Forest = 25,763

5 of the 11 P5's under 40k are ACC, 2 are Big 10 2 are PAC 12, 1 is SEC and 1 is Big 12. For all the doom and gloom about the big 12, their fans still show up to the games. Even if OU and Texas left the Big 12, they would still have better attendance than the ACC. Significantly better. It goes back to the flagship school thing IMHO. State identity typically trumps city identity in college football, I don't know how that ever changes.
Cheers!

Its pretty simple---the more small privates you have the bigger the drag on the conference wide attendance average. There are exceptions, but for the most part, all else being equal, conferences built around large state supported public schools are going to have an easier time driving their conference attendance averages.

Attendance threads are dead now that B12 expansion is dead.

(11-14-2016 02:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-14-2016 01:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-13-2016 10:51 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  G5 Conference
American =32,368
MWC = 24,341
CUSA = 20,376
Sun Belt = 19,583
MAC = approximately 16.5K

NonP5 Schools Over 30K
BYU = 61,655
ECU = 45,040
Houston = 38,179
San Diego St = 37,902
USF = 37,786
Memphis = 37,482
UCF = 35,935
Cincy = 34,883
Boise = 34,530
Army = 33,744
Navy = 33,322
Air Force = 30,793

Barely Missed It (28K+)
Southern Miss = 29,072

P5 Schools Less than 40K (11)
Virginia = 39,929
Oregon St = 36,828
Northwestern = 35,594
Purdue = 35,116
Syracuse = 32,896
Boston College = 31,344
Wash St = 31,325
Vandy = 30,395
Duke = 29,895
Kansas = 25,859
Wake Forest = 25,763

5 of the 11 P5's under 40k are ACC, 2 are Big 10 2 are PAC 12, 1 is SEC and 1 is Big 12. For all the doom and gloom about the big 12, their fans still show up to the games. Even if OU and Texas left the Big 12, they would still have better attendance than the ACC. Significantly better. It goes back to the flagship school thing IMHO. State identity typically trumps city identity in college football, I don't know how that ever changes.
Cheers!

Its pretty simple---the more small privates you have the bigger the drag on the conference wide attendance average. There are exceptions, but for the most part, all else being equal, conferences built around large state supported public schools are going to have an easier time driving their conference attendance averages.

I agree with this in principle...that said:

G5 conferences, private school members:

AAC - 3 (and Navy which of course is not a private school but isn't a traditional state supported public school either)
MWC - 0 (but Air Force is similar to Navy)
CUSA - 1
Sun Belt - 0
MAC - 0

(11-14-2016 01:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-13-2016 10:51 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  G5 Conference
American =32,368
MWC = 24,341
CUSA = 20,376
Sun Belt = 19,583
MAC = approximately 16.5K

NonP5 Schools Over 30K
BYU = 61,655
ECU = 45,040
Houston = 38,179
San Diego St = 37,902
USF = 37,786
Memphis = 37,482
UCF = 35,935
Cincy = 34,883
Boise = 34,530
Army = 33,744
Navy = 33,322
Air Force = 30,793

Barely Missed It (28K+)
Southern Miss = 29,072

P5 Schools Less than 40K (11)
Virginia = 39,929
Oregon St = 36,828
Northwestern = 35,594
Purdue = 35,116
Syracuse = 32,896
Boston College = 31,344
Wash St = 31,325
Vandy = 30,395
Duke = 29,895
Kansas = 25,859
Wake Forest = 25,763

5 of the 11 P5's under 40k are ACC, 2 are Big 10 2 are PAC 12, 1 is SEC and 1 is Big 12. For all the doom and gloom about the big 12, their fans still show up to the games. Even if OU and Texas left the Big 12, they would still have better attendance than the ACC. Significantly better. It goes back to the flagship school thing IMHO. State identity typically trumps city identity in college football, I don't know how that ever changes.
Cheers!

Yeah Miami (FL) and Notre Dame are the only smallish private schools in the top 30 in attendance in 2016 to date.

BYU and USC are in there as well, but they aren't exactly small. BYU has over 26,000 undergrads and USC has over 18,000. USC has another 20k plus in graduate or professional students.

(11-14-2016 08:48 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Good looking attendance numbers.

What are those?
-NIU fans

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