(11-03-2016 10:39 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  [quote='JDTulane' pid='13745760' dateline='1478185119']
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-el...20Carolina

I think we can all agree that this is a gross practice:

Quote:When Bill McAnulty, an elections board chairman in a mostly white North Carolina county, agreed in July to open a Sunday voting site where black church members could cast ballots after services, the reaction was swift: he was labeled a traitor by his fellow Republicans.

So let me see if I Have this right...

McAnulty wanted to open an extra early voting location for ONE day only, and only AFTER certain hours, the citizens of the city said "no"... and that's suppression?

Uhm.. no.

All early voting locations should already be set and agreed on by the local/state voting regulations.

You don't go around just setting up early voting locations, without following the rules and regulations in place.

If there are rules in place that says McAnulty could do that, then the citizens are just SOL, but I kind of have my doubts.

The citizens didn't say ****.

And this problem is more systemic than the one day issue:

Quote:In emails, state and county Republican officials lobbied members of at least 17 county election boards to keep early-voting sites open for shorter hours on weekends and in evenings – times that usually see disproportionately high turnout by Democratic voters. Reuters obtained the emails through a public records request.

The officials also urged county election boards to open fewer sites for residents to cast ballots during early voting that began on Oct. 20 and ends on Saturday.

Because having more people vote (if you disagree with how their vote falls) is BAD (??????)

(11-03-2016 10:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:33 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:29 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:25 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

Exactly.

Because of a chance that if some equipment arrives between now and then that I could be out of town next Tuesday I went ahead and voted absentee yesterday just to make sure. Quick and easy and they even did curbside voting for the handicapped at the voter registration office.

Again... all fine and good to be against early voting.

This thread is about inky practices when choosing to utilize early voting. I.E. Republicans pulling support for an early voting site when they learn the makeup of the voters.

I can't speak for anyone else on here, but I'm a firm believer in the sacredness of election day. Hell, I'd make election day a federal holiday that the entire country takes off so that they have zero excuse for being available to vote. So whenever early voting gets curbed, it's a good thing to me. IDGAF about any early voting scheme that doesn't work out. It should have never been allowed in the first place, so good riddance.

A Bernie Sanders platform

Then it was something that he got right.

Why would fewer hours and earlier closing disproportionately hurt Dems? Someones just making **** up.

(11-03-2016 10:42 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  The citizens didn't say ****.

That's not what your article said:

Quote:In an interview with Reuters, he said he ultimately ruled against opening the Sunday voting site in Randolph County because he had "made a mistake in reading the wishes of the voters."

Quote:In emails, state and county Republican officials lobbied members of at least 17 county election boards to keep early-voting sites open for shorter hours on weekends and in evenings – times that usually see disproportionately high turnout by Democratic voters. Reuters obtained the emails through a public records request.

The officials also urged county election boards to open fewer sites for residents to cast ballots during early voting that began on Oct. 20 and ends on Saturday.

Is that a fact by Reuters or is that just an assumption on the "high turnout number"?

Site locations and hours. so they agreed to shorter hours on weekends and evenings. Okay, no problem.

MORE sites.. I guess that McAnulty may not have gotten the election board to agree with this one.

So again, I don't see a problem here, if the election board as a whole didn't agree to the new location/hours.

Gotta wait till dark to drag out the winos, liquor them up , and get Them on the round up Bus to go vote for Hilldawg.

I repeat:

Why should black people get a special voting site with special hours on a special day?

Because they are special.

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

Are the voting locations going to stay open until the last person in line votes?

(11-03-2016 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

Are the voting locations going to stay open until the last person in line votes?

I was under the general impression that's how it went down. The cut off time applies to getting in line in most places I have lived.

(11-03-2016 01:13 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

Are the voting locations going to stay open until the last person in line votes?

I was under the general impression that's how it went down. The cut off time applies to getting in line in most places I have lived.

That is what I thought to but I seem to remember a few elections back that in Ohio or was it Florida that people were told to go home.

(11-03-2016 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:13 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

Are the voting locations going to stay open until the last person in line votes?

I was under the general impression that's how it went down. The cut off time applies to getting in line in most places I have lived.

That is what I thought to but I seem to remember a few elections back that in Ohio or was it Florida that people were told to go home.

In 2000 when they used our fire station as a polling place there were still people voting as late as 9:00 PM despite the polls closing at 7. They turned away people who came up after the closing time but if you were in line and stayed (some left) you were allowed to vote.

Kap, the number of times I've seen you mention your being a firefighter is giving steve buscemi competition.

(11-03-2016 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:13 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

Are the voting locations going to stay open until the last person in line votes?

I was under the general impression that's how it went down. The cut off time applies to getting in line in most places I have lived.

That is what I thought to but I seem to remember a few elections back that in Ohio or was it Florida that people were told to go home.

In 2000 when they used our fire station as a polling place there were still people voting as late as 9:00 PM despite the polls closing at 7. They turned away people who came up after the closing time but if you were in line and stayed (some left) you were allowed to vote.

In several Democratic precincts, state officials closed the polls early, leaving lines of would-be voters stranded.

Under orders from Governor Jeb Bush (Bush Jr.’s brother), state troopers near polling sites delayed people for hours while searching their cars. Some precincts required two photo IDs which many citizens do not have. The requirement under Florida law was only one photo ID. Passed just before the election, this law itself posed a special difficulty for low-income or elderly voters who did not have drivers licenses or other photo IDs. Uncounted ballot boxes went missing or were found in unexplained places or were never collected from certain African-American precincts. During the recount, GOP agitators shipped in from Washington D.C. by the Republican national leadership stormed the Dale County Canvassing Board, punched and kicked one of the officials, shouted and banged on their office doors, and generally created a climate of intimidation that caused the board to abandon its recount and accept the dubious pro-Bush tally.1

(11-03-2016 10:07 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

That's all fine and good... I'd be happy to have that discussion in a relevant thread...

but here the decision to have early voting was made. If you're going to have it... have fair practices surrounding where and when. Having "pro republican" or "pro democrat" only voting sites is jacked up.

Agreed, but no one said the dims couldn't set up this site did they? If I were trying to martial the limited resources of EITHER party, you go to where those resources are best spent.

I doubt the dims are setting up out front of the local Baptist Church, either. They'd be better off in front of the local whole foods or skinny jeans store.

NOW, that said, I think that is probably a rather shortsighted "policy" (If it is indeed a policy) especially for the Republicans as there are PLENTY of otherwise conservative black folks, but that's another story.

Doesn't seem that anyone said there can't be a voting site wherever this is, only that the R's weren't going to be paying for it.

And, yea. This early voting thing has gotten WAAAAY out of hand, and if every....single.... State doesn't allow for someone to change their vote in lieu of new developments, then this newage, feel-gooder practice has potentially effectively disenfranchised millions of voters.

So the dims got what they wished anyway.

I don't think you understand what the word "disenfranchised" means JMU

(11-03-2016 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:13 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

Are the voting locations going to stay open until the last person in line votes?

I was under the general impression that's how it went down. The cut off time applies to getting in line in most places I have lived.

That is what I thought to but I seem to remember a few elections back that in Ohio or was it Florida that people were told to go home.

In 2000 when they used our fire station as a polling place there were still people voting as late as 9:00 PM despite the polls closing at 7. They turned away people who came up after the closing time but if you were in line and stayed (some left) you were allowed to vote.

No one should have to wait hours to vote. That's why I like early voting.

(11-03-2016 10:01 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Screw early voting. There is nothing wrong with having one day dedicated to people taking time out of their schedules to vote. If you know you won't be home on election day, you get the absentee ballot and vote that way.

This

There should be no early voting without a reason that makes it impossible or unduely burdensome to show up on Election Day.

That said, Election Day should be a Federal holiday.

(11-03-2016 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  I don't think you understand what the word "disenfranchised" means JMU

4 years to get an ID is not disenfranchised. Casting a provisional is not either. Not having your vote counted as you would like for it to be counted on the 8th is.

But it is your own fault for voting early.

(11-03-2016 02:05 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:13 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-03-2016 01:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Are the voting locations going to stay open until the last person in line votes?

I was under the general impression that's how it went down. The cut off time applies to getting in line in most places I have lived.

That is what I thought to but I seem to remember a few elections back that in Ohio or was it Florida that people were told to go home.

In 2000 when they used our fire station as a polling place there were still people voting as late as 9:00 PM despite the polls closing at 7. They turned away people who came up after the closing time but if you were in line and stayed (some left) you were allowed to vote.

No one should have to wait hours to vote. That's why I like early voting.

Why is that? Just seems like an incredibly entitled statement to make. While making election day a federal holiday would make longer wait times a moot point, the alternative is to setting up a more efficient polling station. Whether that entails more voting machines or improved verification processes, this should happen.

the key issue is they don't want efficient polling stations. that's literally the point of the OP.