How / why did you guys pass on Chadwell?

Seems like would have been a natural fit with his variation of triple option

We ask that question all the time.

Been wondering that since game 3

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Because Summers is in the good ol boy group.

(10-27-2016 09:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Because Summers is in the good ol boy group.

Nope, guess again.

(10-27-2016 09:11 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 09:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Because Summers is in the good ol boy group.

Nope, guess again.

Do tell why then.

(10-27-2016 09:32 PM)trapdrawApp Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 09:11 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 09:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Because Summers is in the good ol boy group.

Nope, guess again.

Do tell why then.

This was all TK.

(10-27-2016 09:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Because Summers is in the good ol boy group.

And Willie Fritz was?

I have no idea why we hired Tyson Summers when there's literally four accomplished FCS head coaches all in neighboring states.

Summers wasn't even on the horizon for Head Coach. I recall WVU defensive coordinator, a slew of HC from Div1AA, LB coach from Penn State, Navy coaches, and possibly a coach from the existing staff.

Summers name was never mentioned. It was like Nolan Ryan throwing off the mound in a side arm motion.
............ then the kicker was the dual H.S. offensive coordinator hiring's.

Crazy

(10-27-2016 10:54 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(10-27-2016 09:10 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Because Summers is in the good ol boy group.

And Willie Fritz was?

I have no idea why we hired Tyson Summers when there's literally four accomplished FCS head coaches all in neighboring states.

I never said Fritz was. The question was asked and I answered based on what I know of Summers youth and relation to Southern football. What it seems to be is that the Southern administration wanted someone with ties to the program and area that wouldn't dart at the first opportunity like Fritz did. Fritz left for Tulane; a consistent train wreck of a football program with no history of winning. I think the administration considered that as a slight of sorts because of Southerns rich tradition.

Therefor they went out and hired someone who was familiar with Southern's program traditions and someone who knows what it means to be an Eagle; because that person won't leave for just any other head coaching job, especially not another G5 with no recent history of winning.

In a nutshell, the administration made a knee jerk coaching hire based on who they felt really held Southern in a high regard versus someone who has no ties to Southern. Someone who internalizes the success of the school and isn't just a coach but a fan.

All this BS that Chadwell rejected GS is nonsense. First of all I followed him on twitter through the process and he was basically begging for the job. I doubt he was using all the likes and re tweets concerning the GS job to get CSU to break him off. Unless the offer was wayyyy under what CTS got I dont see how you turn down ANY decent FBS job much less one that just had the last two years we had.

I doubt Chadwell is making more than 100K+/- at CSU. CTS in total is making 500K. That is low on the FBS scale but life changing money. If Chadwell got fired after his first year given the CTS pay it would be 500K plus a 900K buy out. More than he would probably make in 14 years at CSU. Plus Fritz went from making at most probably 200K +/- at best at SHSU to 1.2M in two years.....cmon...You would have to be an idiot to turn down a good FBS job in a hot bed of talent. I am sure South GA was never in Fritz top ten for coaching but he dumped a top five FCS team in a New York minute to take over a transitioning FCS team that struggled a good bit in 2013 having no idea how it would go. There are 128 FBS jobs of those very few are going to go to be open to a very young FCS coach regardless of record and of those how many of those are in talent rich areas, with tradition and a culture of winning?

Why would anyone want to take a HC job at GS and be forced to deal with the crazy fans getting their GATAs in a wad and calling for firings whenever a first year coach calls a passing play?

(10-28-2016 12:11 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  Why would anyone want to take a HC job at GS and be forced to deal with the crazy fans getting their GATAs in a wad and calling for firings whenever a first year coach calls a passing play?

Yeah, this is a gross misrepresentation of the situation.

I got it from a pretty good contact that he left statesboro expecting to sign the deal and when he got back to Charleston was notified the offer had been withdrawn

(10-28-2016 12:55 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  I got it from a pretty good contact that he left statesboro expecting to sign the deal and when he got back to Charleston was notified the offer had been withdrawn

IF this is true, then TK has a lot of explaining to do. I just wanna know what put him in front of any other canidate. What was it put Summers over the others.

(10-28-2016 01:23 PM)trueeagle98 Wrote:  

(10-28-2016 12:55 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  I got it from a pretty good contact that he left statesboro expecting to sign the deal and when he got back to Charleston was notified the offer had been withdrawn

IF this is true, then TK has a lot of explaining to do. I just wanna know what put him in front of any other canidate. What was it put Summers over the others.

He has a way with coach speak....

(10-28-2016 12:55 PM)Tealblood Wrote:  I got it from a pretty good contact that he left statesboro expecting to sign the deal and when he got back to Charleston was notified the offer had been withdrawn

I got it from a pretty good source that Mike Ayers left Statesboro expecting to sign a deal.

We hired Fritz.

This tells me one of two things. Either those jilted candidates were falsely led to believe they were the first target of those respective searches OR they were wanting the job SO bad they had talked themselves into formulating a scenario where they only saw the outcome they wanted.

Having personally just been through a seven month process (vetting through 3 different groups and three 'cuts') where I was being considered for a VP job, I can tell you that in high stakes job like these you are told a lot of things that do not reconcile and you can't believe anything you are told until you have a contract to sign in front of you.

I came in second, so did they. I was nudged out for a VP job by an external candidate, a former CEO, so I can live with it. Chadwell and Ayers are in a different profession where jobs ebb and flow all the time and there aren't 7 month marathon sessions for finding qualified candidates.

If I'm Chadwell, I'm pretty steamed about getting passed over for a guy with no staff and no history. I don't know Chadwell personally but have watched his career since he was a QB at ETSU.

As for Ayers, I've known him very casually over a number of years, talking with him at the SoCon events and of course pre-and post-game when we played Wofford. If he said he thought the job was coming his way, then I believe him. I just haven't talked with him personally to know how HE characterized what he thought his chances were.

I don't know why Chadwell wasn't selected but I've heard he takes a lot of shortcuts, especially risks on some players. He has a very low APR at 930 which is the lowest before facing post season bans. He also does squirrelly stuff like breaking out a broom on an opponents field like he did with The Citadel.

(10-29-2016 11:04 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I don't know why Chadwell wasn't selected but I've heard he takes a lot of shortcuts, especially risks on some players. He has a very low APR at 930 which is the lowest before facing post season bans. He also does squirrelly stuff like breaking out a broom on an opponents field like he did with The Citadel.

Well if you heard it.....

Every coach in football takes risks on players academically or on character.

Also this, try and use google before posting. Jamey Chadwell has the highest APR rates in the history of the football program. In 2011-2012 it was 903...Guy is actually being criticized for raising APR scores and having the highest ever....

Also if you think lower funded programs are not a huge disadvantage with APR chew on this the SEC has had ONE football team ever to receive a penalty ONE....cmon.

I think USA is the only current Sun Belt team not to ever drop below 930 at one time or another.

I love message boards.

(10-31-2016 11:43 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(10-29-2016 11:04 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I don't know why Chadwell wasn't selected but I've heard he takes a lot of shortcuts, especially risks on some players. He has a very low APR at 930 which is the lowest before facing post season bans. He also does squirrelly stuff like breaking out a broom on an opponents field like he did with The Citadel.

Well if you heard it.....

Every coach in football takes risks on players academically or on character.

Also this, try and use google before posting. Jamey Chadwell has the highest APR rates in the history of the football program. In 2011-2012 it was 903...Guy is actually being criticized for raising APR scores and having the highest ever....

Also if you think lower funded programs are not a huge disadvantage with APR chew on this the SEC has had ONE football team ever to receive a penalty ONE....cmon.

I think USA is the only current Sun Belt team not to ever drop below 930 at one time or another.

I love message boards.

Hey, I didn't realize you have some sort of man-crush on Chadwell - my bad - be a dismissive dikwad if you want.

If you want to trust your program to him then so be it - I wouldn't want him anywhere near my program. A coach that does the bare minimum with APR to hold onto the lowest possible APR score he can have without incurring penalties may be fine for you guys. All praise Chadwell!!!

Sure, some coaches take a risk here and there - others try to base their career on it. Again, I don't think it is a good strategy but if you guys like it then you should have hired him. Obviously there are no red flags to hiring Chadwell, you guys just whiffed on him. oops.