(10-19-2016 01:27 PM)Smith Wrote:  Don't short change Jake.

In what capacity?

Dude is a 6-5 (on a great day) PF/C with no hops.

I do think he'll play admirably in spot minutes.

Anyone expecting some major jump in production at the DI level is gonna be disappointed though.

My opinion obviously and based mostly on envisioning who he will have to defend and score against. Tough sledding.

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:14 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:12 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:11 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  Alex moffat is a great kid and good basketball player. Played college ball.

Says he played at Shawnee College, Kytrel played at Motlow (really regressed from FR to SO reason stats-wise), Castro played at Collins College...Bins hasn't played anywhere.

And supposedly Castro and Bins can shoot - not sure about the other two.

Alex and Jonathan are really solid. What I've seen of Castro leads me to believe this team has the potential to be much better than we've seen recently. Team basketball.

Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Miller, Marshall would never take the floor with a roster this thin, unbalanced and with this lack of overall talent when starting with 3 Top 60 players.

(10-19-2016 01:19 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Tubby was wowed about Castro from the walkon workouts. He stood out over the rest

Was he the guy that Jason Smith was tweeting about not missing a shot at the open practice?

(10-19-2016 01:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:14 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:12 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:11 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  Alex moffat is a great kid and good basketball player. Played college ball.

Says he played at Shawnee College, Kytrel played at Motlow (really regressed from FR to SO reason stats-wise), Castro played at Collins College...Bins hasn't played anywhere.

And supposedly Castro and Bins can shoot - not sure about the other two.

Alex and Jonathan are really solid. What I've seen of Castro leads me to believe this team has the potential to be much better than we've seen recently. Team basketball.

Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Miller, Marshall would never take the floor with a roster this thin, unbalanced and with this lack of overall talent when starting with 3 Top 60 players.

Miller had a 6-6 PF and 6-6 C last year and both were backups - the starters got injured preseason.

Marshall had a 6-8 C that grad transferred from Cleveland State as his best post player, meaning he had no better post player before the grad transfer market opened.

While I understand the point you were trying to make, it's not exactly spot on - Dayton and Wichita are rosters full of castoffs and 2/3 stars and JCs/grads, etc.

(10-19-2016 01:46 PM)Bsquared-2 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:19 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Tubby was wowed about Castro from the walkon workouts. He stood out over the rest

Was he the guy that Jason Smith was tweeting about not missing a shot at the open practice?

That's him - Rykhoek's buddy.

(10-19-2016 01:49 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:14 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:12 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Says he played at Shawnee College, Kytrel played at Motlow (really regressed from FR to SO reason stats-wise), Castro played at Collins College...Bins hasn't played anywhere.

And supposedly Castro and Bins can shoot - not sure about the other two.

Alex and Jonathan are really solid. What I've seen of Castro leads me to believe this team has the potential to be much better than we've seen recently. Team basketball.

Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Miller, Marshall would never take the floor with a roster this thin, unbalanced and with this lack of overall talent when starting with 3 Top 60 players.

Miller had a 6-6 PF and 6-6 C last year and both were backups - the starters got injured preseason.

Marshall had a 6-8 C that grad transferred from Cleveland State as his best post player, meaning he had no better post player before the grad transfer market opened.

While I understand the point you were trying to make, it's not exactly spot on - Dayton and Wichita are rosters full of castoffs and 2/3 stars and JCs/grads, etc.

Not going to do the research-know Dayton has signed a steady stream of top 100 players past few years-someone will come back with a cherry picked recruiting service and say that is not so.

(10-19-2016 01:54 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:49 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:14 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  Alex and Jonathan are really solid. What I've seen of Castro leads me to believe this team has the potential to be much better than we've seen recently. Team basketball.

Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Miller, Marshall would never take the floor with a roster this thin, unbalanced and with this lack of overall talent when starting with 3 Top 60 players.

Miller had a 6-6 PF and 6-6 C last year and both were backups - the starters got injured preseason.

Marshall had a 6-8 C that grad transferred from Cleveland State as his best post player, meaning he had no better post player before the grad transfer market opened.

While I understand the point you were trying to make, it's not exactly spot on - Dayton and Wichita are rosters full of castoffs and 2/3 stars and JCs/grads, etc.

Not going to do the research-know Dayton has signed a steady stream of top 100 players past few years-someone will come back with a cherry picked recruiting service and say that is not so.

Okay, so it's more like a Wichita roster then.

Whatever, the main point was that it's an wide assortment of player types.

(10-19-2016 01:50 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:46 PM)Bsquared-2 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:19 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Tubby was wowed about Castro from the walkon workouts. He stood out over the rest

Was he the guy that Jason Smith was tweeting about not missing a shot at the open practice?

That's him - Rykhoek's buddy.

Someone needs to let memphisike know we finally got someone who can bust a trey.

(10-19-2016 01:19 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Tubby was wowed about Castro from the walkon workouts. He stood out over the rest

Give that man a cigar.

(10-19-2016 01:29 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:26 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:25 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:14 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  Alex and Jonathan are really solid. What I've seen of Castro leads me to believe this team has the potential to be much better than we've seen recently. Team basketball.

Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Totally agree. Which may not be a bad thing. I kinda like skilled basketball players more than big athletes who are raw. If put in the right system and coaches up they can be very competitive.

Didn't kytrel play at Harding?

Yep, at Harding - he had good #s first year at Motlow, regressed sharply his second year, so maybe injured or something.

I like having Memphis area kids that weren't overly hyped and surrounded by posses. They usually are solid and tough minded. And most have a love for the Tigers to some degree.

There is another aspect to this point. My three kids attended Fayette Academy. For those of you that don't know, FA is in Somerville, just one county over from Memphis. BIG UT and Ole Miss country. Unless I miss my guess, and I don't think I am, this will be the FIRST D-1a athlete to play for a major school. There are posters of other FA grads that have played for Colleges Like UCA and the like.

What this University needs more than anything is to grow the fan base, and convert whoever is willing to be converted from being SEC fans. What better way than for every student walking into the FA gym to see Alex Moffat in his Tiger uni in a big fat poster in the foyer? If he can get any decent playing time, I believe it will pay dividends in the future in enrollment and future alumni. There are already, I believe, a record number of FA graduates headed to UofM next year, my youngest being one of them.

Maybe this could be a strategy for many schools between Memphis and Jackson?

(10-19-2016 02:55 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:29 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:26 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:25 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Totally agree. Which may not be a bad thing. I kinda like skilled basketball players more than big athletes who are raw. If put in the right system and coaches up they can be very competitive.

Didn't kytrel play at Harding?

Yep, at Harding - he had good #s first year at Motlow, regressed sharply his second year, so maybe injured or something.

I like having Memphis area kids that weren't overly hyped and surrounded by posses. They usually are solid and tough minded. And most have a love for the Tigers to some degree.

There is another aspect to this point. My three kids attended Fayette Academy. For those of you that don't know, FA is in Somerville, just one county over from Memphis. BIG UT and Ole Miss country. Unless I miss my guess, and I don't think I am, this will be the FIRST D-1a athlete to play for a major school. There are posters of other FA grads that have played for Colleges Like UCA and the like.

What this University needs more than anything is to grow the fan base, and convert whoever is willing to be converted from being SEC fans. What better way than for every student walking into the FA gym to see Alex Moffat in his Tiger uni in a big fat poster in the foyer? If he can get any decent playing time, I believe it will pay dividends in the future in enrollment and future alumni. There are already, I believe, a record number of FA graduates headed to UofM next year, my youngest being one of them.

Maybe this could be a strategy for many schools between Memphis and Jackson?

Actually agree with this wholeheartedly - works for Memphis football to a degree to work two angles - walk-ons and recruiting counties in West TN.

If you can get an underrated kid to walk-on at Memphis from these areas, only a benefit and maybe even a surprise here or there.

(10-19-2016 01:54 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:49 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:46 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:14 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  Alex and Jonathan are really solid. What I've seen of Castro leads me to believe this team has the potential to be much better than we've seen recently. Team basketball.

Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Miller, Marshall would never take the floor with a roster this thin, unbalanced and with this lack of overall talent when starting with 3 Top 60 players.

Miller had a 6-6 PF and 6-6 C last year and both were backups - the starters got injured preseason.

Marshall had a 6-8 C that grad transferred from Cleveland State as his best post player, meaning he had no better post player before the grad transfer market opened.

While I understand the point you were trying to make, it's not exactly spot on - Dayton and Wichita are rosters full of castoffs and 2/3 stars and JCs/grads, etc.

Not going to do the research-know Dayton has signed a steady stream of top 100 players past few years-someone will come back with a cherry picked recruiting service and say that is not so.

How many championships has that garnered Dayton? Final fours?

(10-19-2016 02:55 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:29 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:26 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:25 PM)BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:20 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Agree, it is more of a Wichita/Dayton/Butler roster overall.

Aside from Dedric, who is the talent outlier for sure.

Totally agree. Which may not be a bad thing. I kinda like skilled basketball players more than big athletes who are raw. If put in the right system and coaches up they can be very competitive.

Didn't kytrel play at Harding?

Yep, at Harding - he had good #s first year at Motlow, regressed sharply his second year, so maybe injured or something.

I like having Memphis area kids that weren't overly hyped and surrounded by posses. They usually are solid and tough minded. And most have a love for the Tigers to some degree.

There is another aspect to this point. My three kids attended Fayette Academy. For those of you that don't know, FA is in Somerville, just one county over from Memphis. BIG UT and Ole Miss country. Unless I miss my guess, and I don't think I am, this will be the FIRST D-1a athlete to play for a major school. There are posters of other FA grads that have played for Colleges Like UCA and the like.

What this University needs more than anything is to grow the fan base, and convert whoever is willing to be converted from being SEC fans. What better way than for every student walking into the FA gym to see Alex Moffat in his Tiger uni in a big fat poster in the foyer? If he can get any decent playing time, I believe it will pay dividends in the future in enrollment and future alumni. There are already, I believe, a record number of FA graduates headed to UofM next year, my youngest being one of them.

Maybe this could be a strategy for many schools between Memphis and Jackson?

Great point. And spot on. As a matter of fact the school has already started advertising Alex's earning a spot.

Btw , his brother Ethan and Brennan could play d1 IMHO. They've had many very talented girls teams/players.

(10-19-2016 01:54 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  Not going to do the research-know Dayton has signed a steady stream of top 100 players past few years-someone will come back with a cherry picked recruiting service and say that is not so.

Not sure what cherry-picking 24/7 provides, but in the last 4 seasons, Dayton's classes have ranked 69, 91, 114, and 60.

In that time, they've signed 1 4 star player and a bunch of 2/3 star players.

(10-19-2016 11:53 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  For all you hoops addicts - 4 new walk-ons listed, Azab also listed.

http://gotigersgo.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball

Dayum. Looks like there already was a cut.

Kytrel Williams no longer listed.

(10-19-2016 03:56 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 11:53 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  For all you hoops addicts - 4 new walk-ons listed, Azab also listed.

http://gotigersgo.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball

Dayum. Looks like there already was a cut.

Kytrel Williams no longer listed.

Tough break for a good kid

(10-19-2016 12:51 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Chad Rykhoek C 6-11 JR Fort Worth, Texas/Baylor
Karim Sameh C 6-11 FR Giza, Egypt
Dedric Lawson F 6-8 SO Memphis, Tennessee
KJ Lawson F 6-7 SO Memphis, Tennessee
Jimario Rivers F 6-7 JR Clarksville, Tennessee/SWTCC
Jake McDowell F 6-5 SR Memphis, Tennessee
Alex Moffat F 6-5 JR Somerville, Tennessee (walk-on)
Markel Crawford G 6-5 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Jeremiah Martin G 6-3 SO Memphis, Tennessee
Craig Randall G 6-4 SO Phoenix, Arizona
Christian Kessee G 6-2 SR Las Vegas, Nevada/Coppin State
Keon Clergeot G 6-1 FR Auburndale, Florida
Jonathan Bins G 6-1 FR Germantown, Tennessee (walk-on)
Kaleb Castro G 5-11 FR Grapevine, Texas (walk-on)

Updated

(10-19-2016 04:30 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 12:51 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Chad Rykhoek C 6-11 JR Fort Worth, Texas/Baylor
Karim Sameh C 6-11 FR Giza, Egypt
Dedric Lawson F 6-8 SO Memphis, Tennessee
KJ Lawson F 6-7 SO Memphis, Tennessee
Jimario Rivers F 6-7 JR Clarksville, Tennessee/SWTCC
Jake McDowell F 6-5 SR Memphis, Tennessee
Alex Moffat F 6-5 JR Somerville, Tennessee (walk-on)
Markel Crawford G 6-5 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Craig Randall G 6-4 SO Phoenix, Arizona
Christian Kessee G 6-2 SR Las Vegas, Nevada/Coppin State
Keon Clergeot G 6-1 FR Auburndale, Florida
Jonathan Bins G 6-1 FR Germantown, Tennessee (walk-on)
Kaleb Castro G 5-11 FR Grapevine, Texas (walk-on)

Updated

Jeremiah Martin owe you money or something?

(10-19-2016 01:27 PM)Smith Wrote:  Don't short change Jake.

Jake! Hope he has an awesome year, he deserves it!

Interesting to get an early preview of 17/18 as well:

Chad Rykhoek C 6-11 SR Fort Worth, Texas/Baylor
Karim Sameh Azab C 6-11 SO Giza, Egypt
Dedric Lawson F 6-8 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Victor Enoh F 6-8 FR Decatur, Georgia
KJ Lawson F 6-7 SO Memphis, Tennessee
Jimario Rivers F 6-7 SR Clarksville, Tennessee/Southwest CC
David Nickelberry G/F 6-7 FR Windermere, Florida
Alex Moffat F 6-5 SR Somerville, Tennessee/Shawnee College (walk-on)
Markel Crawford G 6-5 SR Memphis, Tennessee
Craig Randall G 6-4 JR Phoenix, Arizona
Jamal Johnson G 6-4 SO Birmingham, Alabama
Jeremiah Martin G 6-3 JR Memphis, Tennessee
Keon Clergeot G 6-1 SO Auburndale, Florida
Jonathan Bins G 6-1 SO Germantown, Tennessee (walk-on)
Kaleb Castro G 5-11 JR Grapevine, Texas/Collin College (walk-on)