(10-18-2016 08:46 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 08:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  It's a nice concept, but even you guys have to realize that ESPN and the other TV networks don't care about anything outside the Power 5?

It's just not the same world.

The ratings the AAC is getting will command their attention. That's the difference. Eyeballs equal $$$$. Having had a few years to establish ourselves is going to really pay off soon... at least to some degree.

But even then, there is a gigantic difference between what most P5 programs can command rating wise and the rest of the AAC. Sure, Houston is kind of in their own world, but the closest thing I could see to even touching P6 status would be if the AAC and MWC cut all their bottom half programs and merged together, and that might still not do it.

The fact is, you're in the G5 for the life of the current playoff contract, and there really is no incentive for the other P5 leagues to include you. I think the Big 12 made that very clear when they passed up on an obvious realignment candidate in Houston to remain as is.

We're honestly closer to a G6 than we are a P6 at this moment.

(10-18-2016 09:54 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We need to get a deal with the Peach Bowl

Peach Bowl is locked up for another decade.

I think you guys have the right idea here, but the P6 should be a concept you are working on for whenever discussions on a new playoff contract come up. That's not for a while. This is not a narrative Aresco can pull off by 2018.

(10-18-2016 09:48 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 06:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I still don't see why adding Army (to get the army/navy game and maybe some sort of deal with CBS) and adding some key MWC teams along with a couple bball onlies is a bad idea.

I think it would be awesome.

Add teams? Hell we need to kick some out. Connecticut because they play d1-aa football. Kick one of the U_F schools out (flip a coin). Two is just redundant. USF can stay if they give the pirate ship to ECU. Tulane you are on the clock because green and light blue are stupid and if we can beat you 10 years in a row you need to disband your program. Replace them with Southern Miss. Maybe kick out Tulsa because frick gazebos and add GA Southern.

It's cute how Memphis thinks they have weight to throw around. They're in the conference primarily to give Houston football and UConn/Cincy/Temple basketball a plausible enough opponent to beat up on. Tulane and Tulsa have to be here to balance out your clown-school academics.

The clown school is the one in Idaho with the blue carpet.

I remember the last time he pushed this narrative. The Big East and TV contract imploded.

(10-18-2016 11:15 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  I remember the last time he pushed this narrative. The Big East and TV contract imploded.

Blame that on Jim Delaney.

(10-18-2016 11:20 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 11:15 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  I remember the last time he pushed this narrative. The Big East and TV contract imploded.

Blame that on Jim Delaney.

You are a good egg. I'm honestly not trolling, I just like a good debate which happens a lot with you and Pesic. Hopefully sometime soon bsu and Houston can play on the field. I actually didn't go to bsu, just grew up in Boise and have followed them and gone to games since the 70s when I was 4. Seen the highs and lows. My school, gonzaga, doesn't have a football team so I continue to support bsu.

Cheers.

(10-18-2016 11:08 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:48 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 06:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I still don't see why adding Army (to get the army/navy game and maybe some sort of deal with CBS) and adding some key MWC teams along with a couple bball onlies is a bad idea.

I think it would be awesome.

Add teams? Hell we need to kick some out. Connecticut because they play d1-aa football. Kick one of the U_F schools out (flip a coin). Two is just redundant. USF can stay if they give the pirate ship to ECU. Tulane you are on the clock because green and light blue are stupid and if we can beat you 10 years in a row you need to disband your program. Replace them with Southern Miss. Maybe kick out Tulsa because frick gazebos and add GA Southern.

It's cute how Memphis thinks they have weight to throw around. They're in the conference primarily to give Houston football and UConn/Cincy/Temple basketball a plausible enough opponent to beat up on. Tulane and Tulsa have to be here to balance out your clown-school academics.

The clown school is the one in Idaho with the blue carpet.

That clown school makes more in ticket revenue than ECU despite averaging 10k fans less per game.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

(10-19-2016 01:01 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 11:08 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:48 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 06:02 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I still don't see why adding Army (to get the army/navy game and maybe some sort of deal with CBS) and adding some key MWC teams along with a couple bball onlies is a bad idea.

I think it would be awesome.

Add teams? Hell we need to kick some out. Connecticut because they play d1-aa football. Kick one of the U_F schools out (flip a coin). Two is just redundant. USF can stay if they give the pirate ship to ECU. Tulane you are on the clock because green and light blue are stupid and if we can beat you 10 years in a row you need to disband your program. Replace them with Southern Miss. Maybe kick out Tulsa because frick gazebos and add GA Southern.

It's cute how Memphis thinks they have weight to throw around. They're in the conference primarily to give Houston football and UConn/Cincy/Temple basketball a plausible enough opponent to beat up on. Tulane and Tulsa have to be here to balance out your clown-school academics.

The clown school is the one in Idaho with the blue carpet.

That clown school makes more in ticket revenue than ECU despite averaging 10k fans less per game.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

According to your link, ECU had the higher revenue.

(10-18-2016 09:05 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 08:59 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  Mcmurphy does not believe the AAC is going to get any additional money from ESPN or any other network in the future:

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...2964134917

He also says that the top half of the AAC and MWC together wouldn't be able to separate from the rest of the G5.

https://mobile.twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/...7661615105

There's a surprise.

McMurphy knows about as much about programming television as he knows about women.

Edit: What was his answer about UConn's tier 3 rights? lol. That must have been good.

Good one, BigEastHomer

McMurphy is a complete idiot X 2

(10-19-2016 01:18 AM)acc4life Wrote:  

(10-19-2016 01:01 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 11:08 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:48 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Add teams? Hell we need to kick some out. Connecticut because they play d1-aa football. Kick one of the U_F schools out (flip a coin). Two is just redundant. USF can stay if they give the pirate ship to ECU. Tulane you are on the clock because green and light blue are stupid and if we can beat you 10 years in a row you need to disband your program. Replace them with Southern Miss. Maybe kick out Tulsa because frick gazebos and add GA Southern.

It's cute how Memphis thinks they have weight to throw around. They're in the conference primarily to give Houston football and UConn/Cincy/Temple basketball a plausible enough opponent to beat up on. Tulane and Tulsa have to be here to balance out your clown-school academics.

The clown school is the one in Idaho with the blue carpet.

That clown school makes more in ticket revenue than ECU despite averaging 10k fans less per game.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

According to your link, ECU had the higher revenue.

When you click on the school it shows ticket revenue. You are looking at totals including student fees etc. ECU has a 36.91% subsidy and BSU has a 28.34% subsidy. Highest subsidized school is Georgia state at over 76% and lowest is multiple sec and b10 schools at 0%.

(10-18-2016 10:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:54 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We need to get a deal with the Peach Bowl

Peach Bowl is locked up for another decade.

I think you guys have the right idea here, but the P6 should be a concept you are working on for whenever discussions on a new playoff contract come up. That's not for a while. This is not a narrative Aresco can pull off by 2018.

Seriously why do you run over to this board to try to counter argue? This has nothing to do with your school. Is it envy? Do yiu wish your school was in this conference? What is it?

The P6 narrative is coming from Aresco. The guy spent decades in media,i think he kniws more than a bitter AState guy whose school has no chance of ever moving beyond Sun Belt.

(10-19-2016 03:06 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 09:54 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  We need to get a deal with the Peach Bowl

Peach Bowl is locked up for another decade.

I think you guys have the right idea here, but the P6 should be a concept you are working on for whenever discussions on a new playoff contract come up. That's not for a while. This is not a narrative Aresco can pull off by 2018.

Seriously why do you run over to this board to try to counter argue? This has nothing to do with your school. Is it envy? Do yiu wish your school was in this conference? What is it?

The P6 narrative is coming from Aresco. The guy spent decades in media,i think he kniws more than a bitter AState guy whose school has no chance of ever moving beyond Sun Belt.

yeah but the guy is right...

(10-18-2016 10:30 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:22 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 10:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love "narratives." They always become true to those that choose to believe them. Its all politics.

says an indoctrinated sdsu fans wo believes the MWC is better than the aac..and pretends like the national media doesnt view us a dramatically better league ...

you have no room to talk on this issue

I never even have come close to making this statement or alluding to such. This proves my point about narratives. You have created your very own. Congrats young lad.

yes you have numerous times, not this specific season, but in general... you have constantly refuted that we have established our-self as the better conference...
have stated the the AAC losing any team, even 1 would make the mwc far and away better

you have alluded numeros times that te mwc is a better conference andwe are just having a good year

I suggest you re-read my posts. Nice narrative though.

(10-18-2016 04:48 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  I think there are TWO hurdles that Aresco and the AAC need to overcome in the future.
1. TV money
2. Bowl game

These two things separate the AAC from P5
1. We are going to struggle getting P5 money from current TV providers because lack the Big name anchor schools. But if we can get 8-10 million we can still be competitive, he might have to go and take a risk on new providers like Google etc.

2. We need the AAC to get an anchor bowl, maybe the Liberty,Outback, Capital that are based in the home city of one of our schools but to that we will need help from city and also get a partner wether it's Fedex or maybe someone like Underarmor to Adopt the league and put big money for the bowl game and demand as part the the AAC champ goes there with the money they put up a quality P5 opponent cann be gathered.
Maybe get such a deal by having the entire league sign under one provider like Nike,Undearmor etc thus that brand will have an economic tie to the league success

I would add #3 being included in the autonomous governing group with the other five conference. They're all related though. We'll need more revenue to get into the autonomy group. They wouldn't want our votes holding them back due to financial restraints. If Aresco can finagle enough money from TV and find a way to secure an autobid I think the autonomy would follow suit in short order though.

(10-18-2016 10:41 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 08:46 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 08:39 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  It's a nice concept, but even you guys have to realize that ESPN and the other TV networks don't care about anything outside the Power 5?

It's just not the same world.

The ratings the AAC is getting will command their attention. That's the difference. Eyeballs equal $$$$. Having had a few years to establish ourselves is going to really pay off soon... at least to some degree.

But even then, there is a gigantic difference between what most P5 programs can command rating wise and the rest of the AAC. Sure, Houston is kind of in their own world, but the closest thing I could see to even touching P6 status would be if the AAC and MWC cut all their bottom half programs and merged together, and that might still not do it.

The fact is, you're in the G5 for the life of the current playoff contract, and there really is no incentive for the other P5 leagues to include you. I think the Big 12 made that very clear when they passed up on an obvious realignment candidate in Houston to remain as is.

We're honestly closer to a G6 than we are a P6 at this moment.

Ark State. Lol. Bottom 10. Closer to fcs than bcs

(10-18-2016 10:10 PM)fanhood Wrote:  I love "narratives." They always become true to those that choose to believe them. Its all politics.

I haven't done this in a long time but it's time to bring it back. You get the first one

Good luck with that....

(10-18-2016 08:37 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 07:46 PM)otown Wrote:  

(10-18-2016 07:32 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Those that want basketball only should really just shoot yourself... there was a conference that tried it and it really really sucked.

I dont see the problem with adding just one such as Wichita State for basketball. Key is only to pick one school, a good basketball school. This will bring us back up to 12 member schools for olympics and it adds some value. One single school will never put us in the dog and pony show that was called the Big East.

No room for a football school unless forming a new West front with the best of the MWC..... and if we go that route, I recommend still getting that extra olympic school plus preferably 2 schools or max 4 schools from CSU/BSU/BYU/Air Force/Army............. and personally, I wouldn't mind letting Boise rot.

If you take CSU,BYU,Air Force, and Army......... MWC folds and BSU goes independent in which they are ineligible for the Access Bowl......that is the only option. There are no other schools in that region of the country for the MWC to reload with unless they take startups.

We have the upper hand in all this. You get ESPN to sign an extension for 6-10 million a school with us agreeing to a GOR through 2025 with approval to approach those 4 schools............. They will take the money and run. We will have back room dealed our way into a temporary power conference................ and BSU becomes independent......without a path to the access bowl.

All sounds very Machiavellian to me.


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Almost Kissinger-isk

I think we can judge how well the AAC is doing with that narrative by the number of fans from other conferences posting here. It seems we are doing rather well.....

(10-19-2016 09:17 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  I think we can judge how well the AAC is doing with that narrative by the number of fans from other conferences posting here. It seems we are doing rather well.....

Yeah. They all gotta chirp in. Lol