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(09-26-2016 06:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Unless you are Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Bama, USC, and maybe one or two others, you can lose your coach at any time....it's just the way it is....some things will never change
LSU lost its first national championship coach to Army 3 or so years later, and its next national championship coach to the NFL. It's best coach in between quit to become AD at Florida.
USC lost its 3 best coaches in the last 50 years to the NFL.
Alabama will lose Saban before he retires.
The days of lifers are over, or at least much-reduced
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RE: Coaches And School Loyalty
(09-26-2016 06:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Unless you are Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Bama, USC, and maybe one or two others, you can lose your coach at any time....it's just the way it is....some things will never change
LSU lost its first national championship coach to Army 3 or so years later, and its next national championship coach to the NFL. It's best coach in between quit to become AD at Florida.
USC lost its 3 best coaches in the last 50 years to the NFL.
Alabama will lose Saban before he retires.
The days of lifers are over, or at least much-reduced
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RE: Coaches And School Loyalty
(09-26-2016 06:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Unless you are Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Bama, USC, and maybe one or two others, you can lose your coach at any time....it's just the way it is....some things will never change
LSU lost its first national championship coach to Army 3 or so years later, and its next national championship coach to the NFL. It's best coach in between quit to become AD at Florida.
USC lost its 3 best coaches in the last 50 years to the NFL.
Alabama will lose Saban before he retires.
The days of lifers are over, or at least much-reduced, just like it is in most industries.
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(09-26-2016 08:37 PM)DrBox Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 06:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Unless you are Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Bama, USC, and maybe one or two others, you can lose your coach at any time....it's just the way it is....some things will never change
LSU lost its first national championship coach to Army 3 or so years later, and its next national championship coach to the NFL. It's best coach in between quit to become AD at Florida.
USC lost its 3 best coaches in the last 50 years to the NFL.
Alabama will lose Saban before he retires.
The days of lifers are over, or at least much-reduced
If some folks here don't know who Tubby Smith is, they sure aren't going to know who Pepsodent Paul was.
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(09-26-2016 06:55 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 06:47 PM)UHDC Wrote:  I'm not saying you're wrong.

But amazes me why every up and coming coach is so willing to move up so fast.

Just recently all former coaching rising stars are now on the hot-seat.

Just to name a few:
Gus Malzahn
Charlie Strong
Kevin Sumlin
Brian Kelly
Just recently Butch Jones

Really hard to last a long time as a coach these days in the SEC or other elite teams. Lose 4 games a few years in a row and you're canned.

I don't think Herman leaves for LSU. He waits for a program "down"to fix. Something like Texas or ND.

At the rate things are going at ND, he might get that chance soon
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Tuberville will not leave Cincinnati
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(09-26-2016 09:25 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 08:37 PM)DrBox Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 06:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Unless you are Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Bama, USC, and maybe one or two others, you can lose your coach at any time....it's just the way it is....some things will never change
LSU lost its first national championship coach to Army 3 or so years later, and its next national championship coach to the NFL. It's best coach in between quit to become AD at Florida.
USC lost its 3 best coaches in the last 50 years to the NFL.
Alabama will lose Saban before he retires.
The days of lifers are over, or at least much-reduced
If some folks here don't know who Tubby Smith is, they sure aren't going to know who Pepsodent Paul was.

They had a pretty good one in between them in Charley McClendon too, and eventually pushed him out. In the 60s through the early 80s, LSU, Tennessee and others fired coaches who had tremendous records because they couldn't beat Bear and Bama. Same is true now. Jealousy takes over.
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(09-26-2016 09:25 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 08:37 PM)DrBox Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 06:18 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Unless you are Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Bama, USC, and maybe one or two others, you can lose your coach at any time....it's just the way it is....some things will never change
LSU lost its first national championship coach to Army 3 or so years later, and its next national championship coach to the NFL. It's best coach in between quit to become AD at Florida.
USC lost its 3 best coaches in the last 50 years to the NFL.
Alabama will lose Saban before he retires.
The days of lifers are over, or at least much-reduced
If some folks here don't know who Tubby Smith is, they sure aren't going to know who Pepsodent Paul was.

Well one is basketball and the other is football. So unless you just foolish its stupid to assume some one who has no interest on one sport is going to know anything about it. To compare to sports is also pretty stupid.
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(09-26-2016 06:11 PM)wylioats Wrote:  "I want to be here for as long as they'll have me, I wouldn't have taken this job if I thought we couldn't win big here."....Justin Fuente
He knew he was gone to VT after our Ole Miss win.

"As long as Memphis is committed to winning national championships, this is where I want to be, me and my family are happy here"....John Calipari........Left for Kentucky the next day.

Anyone who thinks their coach won't leave for a bigger and better gig, is fooling themselves and are in for a big let down.

It is a job..
09-27-2016 07:25 AM
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(09-26-2016 10:03 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  Tuberville will not leave Cincinnati

Not likely to get offers to leave.
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Schools and fans are not loyal to struggling coaches (see Les Miles for latest example) so schools and fans should not expect loyality from coaches when they receive better offers.
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(09-27-2016 07:37 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Schools and fans are not loyal to struggling coaches (see Les Miles for latest example) so schools and fans should not expect loyality from coaches when they receive better offers.

Heck, they aren't loyal to NON struggling coaches. I couldn't describe les miles as struggling. Guy keeps winning double digits and they STILL fired his ass.
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(09-27-2016 07:27 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 10:03 PM)Tech Savy Wrote:  Tuberville will not leave Cincinnati

Not likely to get offers to leave.

Tubs does good enough to keep a job. Hang around .500 or slightly above. Bad enough no one wants to steal him.
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(09-27-2016 08:22 AM)dezagcoog Wrote:  
(09-27-2016 07:37 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Schools and fans are not loyal to struggling coaches (see Les Miles for latest example) so schools and fans should not expect loyality from coaches when they receive better offers.

Heck, they aren't loyal to NON struggling coaches. I couldn't describe les miles as struggling. Guy keeps winning double digits and they STILL fired his ass.

Miles was struggling to meet LSU's standard.
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I dont blame the coaches. There is no loyalty from either side. Coaches know full well that you have two losing seasons in a row and those same fans and administrators praising you and expecting loyalty will be out with pitchforks to fire you.
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(09-26-2016 06:14 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  
(09-26-2016 06:11 PM)wylioats Wrote:  "I want to be here for as long as they'll have me, I wouldn't have taken this job if I thought we couldn't win big here."....Justin Fuente
He knew he was gone to VT after our Ole Miss win.

"As long as Memphis is committed to winning national championships, this is where I want to be, me and my family are happy here"....John Calipari........Left for Kentucky the next day.

Anyone who thinks their coach won't leave for a bigger and better gig, is fooling themselves and are in for a big let down.

I still remeber ole skippy tweeting purple before leaving for usf. Reality can be a tough thing for some folks. Money talks

Man, I forgot about ole Skippy. Such a young and rising coach back then. How things have changed.
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