(10-01-2016 09:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

nothing, ecu fans just being ecu fans

long story short, college students join trendy protest (which is what college students do) that technically doesnt bother anyone..
ecu fans freak out, demanding the college students be punished

the chancellor says no one will be punished, he respects the students rights to protest and supports the discussion taking place in his university (note ecu is a public school)

now ecu fans are calling for the chancellor to be fired

Well said. We also got fans claiming to boycott the games. They don't realize they are doing more harm than good.

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(10-01-2016 10:06 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I think ECU bought into the 0-12 narrative. UCF was bad last year because of poor coaching and an absolute absence of leadership so much so the players just gave up. It was not because the cabinet was bare.

I think a lot of people did. We went 21-2 in conference play the three years prior to 0-12. There was no talent drop-off from one year to the next, recruiting-wise. It was almost entirely on the coaching staff throwing in the towel. It'll still take time to recover since we're installing entirely new systems with a young coaching staff, but we can all see there was a lot left behind.

(10-01-2016 08:21 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 06:15 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 05:36 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 04:51 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 04:37 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

No way we would've scored 3 times in that amount of time without our starting QB and most of those that side is PC and a majority of them live a good 2-3 hours away. Honestly I live 20ish minutes away so I would've stayed until the flood came.


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A lot of folks in my area left at half time. Chancellors response to the band made me want to throw up.

I heard the crowd booed which isn't surprising given most in this area are republicans and don't understand the anthem protest.


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Actually ENC are mostly democratic look at where the majority of our governors are from in the last 40 years. Hunt, Easley, Purdue and even cooper is from ENC. I am from Charlotte.

Doesn't feel like. I have Trump supporters like not even 10 houses down from me.


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(10-01-2016 08:30 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 08:26 PM)chess Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 08:05 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 07:37 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Grimace was a better coach than Swaggh JT it looks like.

Jeff Compher = Mike Hamrick.

And the ECU money brokers got rid of Terry Holland.

Yep because he would kiss their asses. They are ultimately responsible for how bad this is gonna get.

Would or wouldn't?


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(10-01-2016 10:01 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:29 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

What would you like him to say that wouldn't be a nightmare legally?

Enforce the band code of conduct that each bAnd member signed. It is being posted all over Facebook by band member parents. Enforce the email he sent out all students late September with expectations of student behavior including what can be hung in dorm windows. Being a parent of a current student his letter concerning this post shows he will protect certain student's right but restrict others. Not that my daughter would have done anything in the letter it is the point of the matter.

Or people can stop over reacting. They are protesting for a cause they believe in. Would they have booed if it was one of the star players? Hell no.


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(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

Or you know lose more fans because

1) He will be restricting free speech
2) He will be seen as easily swayed/a flip flopper
3) That backing off of it will be on the wrong side of history
4) That students/facility will protest and may even suggest a vote of no confidence

His letter/stance is spot on and if you disagree then you're just over reacting to the entire situation that probably caused tension in the stadium and didn't help the players any in their attempt to win.


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(10-01-2016 10:11 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  A couple of things I didn't understand from this game; why did so many fans leave just being down two scores? What's the deal with Mo calling timeouts with a minute left down by 11?

Because that game was a complete embarrassment and everyone could see there was no comeback coming. QB was hurt, coaches suck, and even if we did drive we'd just screw it up in the redzone or on special teams. Anyone who made it to the end deserves a prize.

(10-01-2016 10:36 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

Or you know lose more fans because

1) He will be restricting free speech
2) He will be seen as easily swayed/a flip flopper
3) That backing off of it will be on the wrong side of history
4) That students/facility will protest and may even suggest a vote of no confidence

His letter/stance is spot on and if you disagree then you're just over reacting to the entire situation that probably caused tension in the stadium and didn't help the players any in their attempt to win.


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Actually if you go to marchinpirates.org you can read the expectations of the marching pirAtes they agreed too. The letter he sent out to the student body which my daughter received outline expected student behavior which this protest was outside the guidelines set forth last week. I seriously doubt my daughter would be granted exception for peacefully breaking the U''s policies or guidelines. The chancellor granted special privilege to these protestors. Sorry but they where wrong and the chancellor is wrong.

(10-01-2016 11:15 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 10:36 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

Or you know lose more fans because

1) He will be restricting free speech
2) He will be seen as easily swayed/a flip flopper
3) That backing off of it will be on the wrong side of history
4) That students/facility will protest and may even suggest a vote of no confidence

His letter/stance is spot on and if you disagree then you're just over reacting to the entire situation that probably caused tension in the stadium and didn't help the players any in their attempt to win.


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Actually if you go to marchinpirates.org you can read the expectations of the marching pirAtes they agreed too. The letter he sent out to the student body which my daughter received outline expected student behavior which this protest was outside the guidelines set forth last week. I seriously doubt my daughter would be granted exception for peacefully breaking the U''s policies or guidelines. The chancellor granted special privilege to these protestors. Sorry but they where wrong and the chancellor is wrong.

link the actual guidelines they broke (link above is just the band site) ..im actually curious now..

gut feeling is that you "think" they broke a rule but actually don't know what rule they broke..
no public school has guidelines that say you cant protest or you have to stand for the national anthem.. they likely have vague rule like "acting appropriately" or representing the school but those are interpretation rules and those interpreting are fine with it

secondly why do you care so much, they kneeled, you can not look at them for 2 minutes and then move on with your life

third, you chancellor made the brilliant decision no matter what side you are on on this issue,
option 1: let them protest, a few disgruntled ecu fans who cant see the bigger picture complain for 2 days and then get over it

option 2: punish them, causing even bigger protest, causing a media circus around ecu, ecu gets labelled a institutionally racist school (hurt academics) and like the Missouri situation almost everyone could get fired and have their name tarnished forever

your chancellor made the smart decision if you think he is wrong, im glad you arent in any position of similar power and would be willing to destroy an institution/yourself because of pride and a non disruptive protest

(10-01-2016 10:36 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

Or you know lose more fans because

1) He will be restricting free speech
2) He will be seen as easily swayed/a flip flopper
3) That backing off of it will be on the wrong side of history
4) That students/facility will protest and may even suggest a vote of no confidence

His letter/stance is spot on and if you disagree then you're just over reacting to the entire situation that probably caused tension in the stadium and didn't help the players any in their attempt to win.


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I will give my life for those young people to be able to practice their right of free speech and protest. I don't have to like it. I just have to allow it in the greatest country on the planet. I abhor and still support what the small segment of band members did. I think this type of protest accomplishes zero though. I would submit that actually "getting involved" in the community to help address these issues is far more effective. Of course that would be harder and require more work than kneeling down on grass.

(10-01-2016 09:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  the chancellor says no one will be punished, he respects the students rights to protest and supports the discussion taking place in his university (note ecu is a public school)

now ecu fans are calling for the chancellor to be fired

I Hope the ECU Drum Line breaks formation next week during the national anthem and/or halftime performance and refuses to perform/play their instruments while they start up a game of hacky sack in their "protest" over the unfair treatment of fire ants.

ECU Pres/Chancellor just opened up a can of worms in allowing ECU Students to not perform while wearing ECU Paid for Band Uniforms and holding ECU Paid for Instruments...and now ECU Students can take any protest to their classroom (refuse to speak up in class, refuse to complete a project, refuse to take a test) as they can just say they are protesting over ANYTHING.

#hopeithappens

This LSU Fan has been making videos of UCF's amazing Freshmen Adrian Killins TD's...and here's his from yesterday.

(10-02-2016 07:51 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  the chancellor says no one will be punished, he respects the students rights to protest and supports the discussion taking place in his university (note ecu is a public school)

now ecu fans are calling for the chancellor to be fired

I Hope the ECU Drum Line breaks formation next week during the national anthem and/or halftime performance and refuses to perform/play their instruments while they start up a game of hacky sack in their "protest" over the unfair treatment of fire ants.

ECU Pres/Chancellor just opened up a can of worms in allowing ECU Students to not perform while wearing ECU Paid for Band Uniforms and holding ECU Paid for Instruments...and now ECU Students can take any protest to their classroom (refuse to speak up in class, refuse to complete a project, refuse to take a test) as they can just say they are protesting over ANYTHING.

#hopeithappens

And if they protest taking the test they get an F. But that's not an apples to apples comparison now is it?


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You know the Thunder Cloud on Mariocart that you hand off to an opponent by bumping into them?

Did UH hand off Coogin' it to us at some point?

(10-01-2016 10:32 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 10:01 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:29 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

What would you like him to say that wouldn't be a nightmare legally?

Enforce the band code of conduct that each bAnd member signed. It is being posted all over Facebook by band member parents. Enforce the email he sent out all students late September with expectations of student behavior including what can be hung in dorm windows. Being a parent of a current student his letter concerning this post shows he will protect certain student's right but restrict others. Not that my daughter would have done anything in the letter it is the point of the matter.

Or people can stop over reacting. They are protesting for a cause they believe in. Would they have booed if it was one of the star players? Hell no.


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If your QB broke formation and REFUSED to play and just took a knee on every play (just like the band members did) during his performance/aka, actual GAME, do you think ECU Chancellor would have had the same reaction? (i.e. Head Coach would just need to "understand" his QB's feelings...and allow him to "not perform" while he is on the field and certainly NOT PUNISH him or dare take him out of the game?)

(10-02-2016 09:09 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 10:32 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 10:01 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:29 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

What would you like him to say that wouldn't be a nightmare legally?

Enforce the band code of conduct that each bAnd member signed. It is being posted all over Facebook by band member parents. Enforce the email he sent out all students late September with expectations of student behavior including what can be hung in dorm windows. Being a parent of a current student his letter concerning this post shows he will protect certain student's right but restrict others. Not that my daughter would have done anything in the letter it is the point of the matter.

Or people can stop over reacting. They are protesting for a cause they believe in. Would they have booed if it was one of the star players? Hell no.


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If your QB broke formation and REFUSED to play and just took a knee on every play (just like the band members did) during his performance/aka, actual GAME, do you think ECU Chancellor would have had the same reaction? (i.e. Head Coach would just need to "understand" his QB's feelings...and allow him to "not perform" while he is on the field and certainly NOT PUNISH him or dare take him out of the game?)

Of course he wouldn't have allowed that. What if the band wanted to protest not getting a full 12 ounces out of a coke can? Or happy days getting cancelled? Can they stop playing for anything they "believe" in which has been a media lie.

I'm guessing the protest is fine as long as it is liberal propaganda. Way to set the tone band nerds!

Good win Knights. UCF played more physical up front. That pretty much was the difference.

(10-01-2016 11:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 11:15 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 10:36 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:25 PM)PirateJeff Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:21 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  What is the deal with the band protesting? Miss it

This was F'ckwx up game day experience. We will probably loose a lot of fans if the chancellor does not back off the letter he sent out.

Or you know lose more fans because

1) He will be restricting free speech
2) He will be seen as easily swayed/a flip flopper
3) That backing off of it will be on the wrong side of history
4) That students/facility will protest and may even suggest a vote of no confidence

His letter/stance is spot on and if you disagree then you're just over reacting to the entire situation that probably caused tension in the stadium and didn't help the players any in their attempt to win.


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Actually if you go to marchinpirates.org you can read the expectations of the marching pirAtes they agreed too. The letter he sent out to the student body which my daughter received outline expected student behavior which this protest was outside the guidelines set forth last week. I seriously doubt my daughter would be granted exception for peacefully breaking the U''s policies or guidelines. The chancellor granted special privilege to these protestors. Sorry but they where wrong and the chancellor is wrong.

link the actual guidelines they broke (link above is just the band site) ..im actually curious now..

gut feeling is that you "think" they broke a rule but actually don't know what rule they broke..
no public school has guidelines that say you cant protest or you have to stand for the national anthem.. they likely have vague rule like "acting appropriately" or representing the school but those are interpretation rules and those interpreting are fine with it

secondly why do you care so much, they kneeled, you can not look at them for 2 minutes and then move on with your life

third, you chancellor made the brilliant decision no matter what side you are on on this issue,
option 1: let them protest, a few disgruntled ecu fans who cant see the bigger picture complain for 2 days and then get over it

option 2: punish them, causing even bigger protest, causing a media circus around ecu, ecu gets labelled a institutionally racist school (hurt academics) and like the Missouri situation almost everyone could get fired and have their name tarnished forever

your chancellor made the smart decision if you think he is wrong, im glad you arent in any position of similar power and would be willing to destroy an institution/yourself because of pride and a non disruptive protest

Oh yes the made up poop swastikas.

It's not that hard. Playing in the band is a privilege not a right. You signed a contract that says you will play at all times. You broke the contract. Buh-bye.

(10-02-2016 07:51 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-01-2016 09:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  the chancellor says no one will be punished, he respects the students rights to protest and supports the discussion taking place in his university (note ecu is a public school)

now ecu fans are calling for the chancellor to be fired

I Hope the ECU Drum Line breaks formation next week during the national anthem and/or halftime performance and refuses to perform/play their instruments while they start up a game of hacky sack in their "protest" over the unfair treatment of fire ants.

ECU Pres/Chancellor just opened up a can of worms in allowing ECU Students to not perform while wearing ECU Paid for Band Uniforms and holding ECU Paid for Instruments...and now ECU Students can take any protest to their classroom (refuse to speak up in class, refuse to complete a project, refuse to take a test) as they can just say they are protesting over ANYTHING.

#hopeithappens

The next game is military appreciation weekend and we also host navy. I really hope this gets addressed before then, if not it will be the most embarrassing moment of my life at ECU.

(10-01-2016 10:06 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I think ECU bought into the 0-12 narrative. UCF was bad last year because of poor coaching and an absolute absence of leadership so much so the players just gave up. It was not because the cabinet was bare.

Then take me up on my bet