(09-21-2016 07:56 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  The Blackout Game at home is a huge momentum boost for us. We're 7-2 in those uniforms. We beat a Cato led Marshall team and a Brandon Doughty led WKU in those jerseys at home. For some reason, our type gets hyped for the Blackout game.

Texas Tech has a great offense but their D is horrible. I mean like 118th in the nation horrible. LaTech was down 21 points until the very end of the game. Texas Tech's D was bad but good enough to stop LaTech enough to go up 21 points until like 30 seconds left. I like that. Texas Tech isn't even ranked and they lost to an ASU team that put up 60+ on them. This is the same ASU that barely put up 32 to squeak out a win vs UTSA Friday night.

LaTech also let SCState put 24 on them. 6 out of the 12 quarters we've played, we've held our opponents scoreless.

This game will be a war. I like our chances as long as we don't field any punts.

To be fair, 10 of those points were after careless turnovers. The other 14 were not against the defense that will play MTSU (starters pulled). We had a red zone INT called back on some bs pass interference call as well.
Our Offense was struggling early, and not because of TT's defense (which was very sloppy and probably shouldve been called for more penalties). What will kill us is our own offense, Higgins missed some throws he shouldve made. I also feel we passed too much (and missed,didnt gain) in that offensive stall period in the first half, shouldve run it more.

So, If Higgins is dialed in and focused, we can win. He's got a ton of support on the field. All he has to do is get them the ball. Im sure our defense is working hard on this game.

(09-21-2016 08:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Mahomes is a "legitimate Heisman candidate".

http://www.espn.com/college-football/tea...ed-raiders

He is projected to be a #14 1st round and the 3rd QB taken if he leaves this year. If plays next year he'll be the top QB or 2nd taken behind Lamar Jackson.

He's the most talented QB Tech has face since Kaepernick. He's from Whitehouse right outside Tyler TX and his dad was a pro baseball player

(09-21-2016 08:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Mahomes is a "legitimate Heisman candidate".

http://www.espn.com/college-football/tea...ed-raiders

He is projected to be a #14 1st round and the 3rd QB taken if he leaves this year. If plays next year he'll be the top QB or 2nd taken behind Lamar Jackson.

He's the most talented QB Tech has face since Kaepernick. He's from Whitehouse right outside Tyler TX and his dad was a pro baseball player

We did play that Heisman trophy winning Manziel guy back in 2013. I might would say he's more talented than Kap.

His team is only winning 7-8 games at most. Their D is actually ranked 123rd right now. They couldn't handle a mediocre ASU for goodness sakes. All of that talent is wasted IMO. It means nothing. ....and TT still carved LaTech up while a bad UTSA team nearly beat ASU.

LaTech has a good offense but so do we. The matchup will be good. There is no superiority to be had in a 14 (really a 21) point loss to a potential 7-8 win P5 team. He's a good QB. News flash we have a 4,000+ yard passer too with a 1,300 + yard WR. Both were Freshman All Americans last year. It will be a great game. Can't wait.

(09-21-2016 08:48 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Mahomes is a "legitimate Heisman candidate".

http://www.espn.com/college-football/tea...ed-raiders

He is projected to be a #14 1st round and the 3rd QB taken if he leaves this year. If plays next year he'll be the top QB or 2nd taken behind Lamar Jackson.

He's the most talented QB Tech has face since Kaepernick. He's from Whitehouse right outside Tyler TX and his dad was a pro baseball player

We did play that Heisman trophy winning Manziel guy back in 2013. I might would say he's more talented than Kap.

I know, not even close in my opinion. Johnny football could scramble and had decent arm but he also had a receiver Evans I believe that was drafted before him in the 1st round. Both Kap and Johnny have wasted their talent IMO

(09-21-2016 10:42 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:48 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Mahomes is a "legitimate Heisman candidate".

http://www.espn.com/college-football/tea...ed-raiders

He is projected to be a #14 1st round and the 3rd QB taken if he leaves this year. If plays next year he'll be the top QB or 2nd taken behind Lamar Jackson.

He's the most talented QB Tech has face since Kaepernick. He's from Whitehouse right outside Tyler TX and his dad was a pro baseball player

We did play that Heisman trophy winning Manziel guy back in 2013. I might would say he's more talented than Kap.

I know, not even close in my opinion. Johnny football could scramble and had decent arm but he also had a receiver Evans I believe that was drafted before him in the 1st round. Both Kap and Johnny have wasted their talent IMO

His WR1 and LT were both top 7 picks.

(09-21-2016 09:36 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  His team is only winning 7-8 games at most. Their D is actually ranked 123rd right now. They couldn't handle a mediocre ASU for goodness sakes. All of that talent is wasted IMO. It means nothing. ....and TT still carved LaTech up while a bad UTSA team nearly beat ASU.

LaTech has a good offense but so do we. The matchup will be good. There is no superiority to be had in a 14 (really a 21) point loss to a potential 7-8 win P5 team. He's a good QB. News flash we have a 4,000+ yard passer too with a 1,300 + yard WR. Both were Freshman All Americans last year. It will be a great game. Can't wait.

I get your point, but this bothers me. It wasn't a 21 point game. They also scored late (after we onside kicked) to stretch it to 21 points and we answered their score after they kicked deep. They never stopped trying to score and neither did we.

(09-21-2016 10:51 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 10:42 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:48 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:22 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Mahomes is a "legitimate Heisman candidate".

http://www.espn.com/college-football/tea...ed-raiders

He is projected to be a #14 1st round and the 3rd QB taken if he leaves this year. If plays next year he'll be the top QB or 2nd taken behind Lamar Jackson.

He's the most talented QB Tech has face since Kaepernick. He's from Whitehouse right outside Tyler TX and his dad was a pro baseball player

We did play that Heisman trophy winning Manziel guy back in 2013. I might would say he's more talented than Kap.

I know, not even close in my opinion. Johnny football could scramble and had decent arm but he also had a receiver Evans I believe that was drafted before him in the 1st round. Both Kap and Johnny have wasted their talent IMO

His WR1 and LT were both top 7 picks.

Manziel was the best college player I ever saw personally. He would run across the field, get bottled up and reverse all the way to the other side for the TD. Kap was top five, but no where near the player Johnny Football was. The Mahomes kid was unbelievable in the sense that he always found a way to get out of a very tight jams, especially on 3rd and 20. He made one completion from his back that luckily got called back. Manziel would break off a 65 td run like there was nothing to it.

(09-21-2016 09:36 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  His team is only winning 7-8 games at most. Their D is actually ranked 123rd right now. They couldn't handle a mediocre ASU for goodness sakes. All of that talent is wasted IMO. It means nothing. ....and TT still carved LaTech up while a bad UTSA team nearly beat ASU.

LaTech has a good offense but so do we. The matchup will be good. There is no superiority to be had in a 14 (really a 21) point loss to a potential 7-8 win P5 team. He's a good QB. News flash we have a 4,000+ yard passer too with a 1,300 + yard WR. Both were Freshman All Americans last year. It will be a great game. Can't wait.

You can't realistically compare games to games. ASU vs UTSA and ASU vs TT both have a lot of factors that you have not calculated it. The Bowling Green team you came from behind to beat only beat FCS North Dakota by one point. That doesn't reflect on your team. Its football played by 19-20 year old kids. The stats aren't transitive with such a small test specimen of games.
As far as our game with TT, it was a 14 point loss not a 21 point loss. Both never took their foot off the gas pedal. I completely understand that you have a good QB and WR and don't think anyone is going to realistically claim superiority. This game is going to be a good game and I honestly don't know the outcome.

MT gave up 47 to a team who scored 10 and 7 in their other 2 games. Tech gave up 59 to a team that scored 62 and 55 in their other 2 games. Tech is averaging 39 points a game, so we could potentially see 60+ against the Blue Raiders based on the Vanderbilt score.

(09-22-2016 08:21 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  MT gave up 47 to a team who scored 10 and 7 in their other 2 games. Tech gave up 59 to a team that scored 62 and 55 in their other 2 games. Tech is averaging 39 points a game, so we could potentially see 60+ against the Blue Raiders based on the Vanderbilt score.

Which further proves my point that the test sample of 3 games makes most statistical arguments moot. We know what MTSU is good at, We sorta know what Tech is good at. These are the main reasons, this will be one of the biggest games in CUSA this season.

True, but I also think we could have scored 60+ on them last year if we hadn't taken our foot off the gas in the 2nd half (35 points at halftime). We'll see. If we have to score a bunch, I think we can. Higgins though. lol

(09-22-2016 08:35 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  True, but I also think we could have scored 60+ on them last year if we hadn't taken our foot off the gas in the 2nd half (35 points at halftime). We'll see. If we have to score a bunch, I think we can. Higgins though. lol

We've been no stranger to get our asses kicked on the road against good conference opponents - see Marshall, WKU, La Tech. At home, totally different story - see Marshall, WKU.

We've only lost 1 home conference game (11-1 record) since joining CUSA, and that was our very first one against ECU.

Trust me, our defense is shaky enough that if we make a few mistakes and La Tech is on their game, they can win by 2+ scores, but we typically don't do that at home, so I, like other MT fans, expect a down to the wire, possibly OT type of game.

Looking forward to a good game on Saturday. That being said...

EAT EM UP DAWGS!

P.S. If any of y'all find our defense, tell them what time the game starts.

(09-22-2016 09:27 AM)MTowho Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 08:35 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  True, but I also think we could have scored 60+ on them last year if we hadn't taken our foot off the gas in the 2nd half (35 points at halftime). We'll see. If we have to score a bunch, I think we can. Higgins though. lol

We've been no stranger to get our asses kicked on the road against good conference opponents - see Marshall, WKU, La Tech. At home, totally different story - see Marshall, WKU.

We've only lost 1 home conference game (11-1 record) since joining CUSA, and that was our very first one against ECU.

Trust me, our defense is shaky enough that if we make a few mistakes and La Tech is on their game, they can win by 2+ scores, but we typically don't do that at home, so I, like other MT fans, expect a down to the wire, possibly OT type of game.

I can't argue with that. That's a solid stat line at home in conference. We are 8-4 at home with 3 of those losses in 2013. This is gonna be a really good game. Both teams have reason to be confident

Turnovers will be the key to the game for us.

Turn it over, and we will get beat.

We led the freakin' nation in fumbles last year.

Our pass defense hasn't really been tested yet.

So far, we are absolutely horrid on run defense, in my opinion, and that goes back to last year. But our D only gave up maybe 11 points to BGSU (bend-but-don't-break).

If we can establish our own running game, and don't turn the ball over, MT wins (at home).

If we don't.......... or if this game was on the road........ Tech wins.

Yup, we self destructed against Vandy no doubt. 6 hours with a 2 hour rain/lightning delay, a muffed punt for a safety, 2 blown KR coverages, a pick 6 (just about), stupid penalties and other shenanigans. It wasn't our D per say as much as it was everything else. They were on their heels because of bad field position most of the night. Yeah, it sucked. No other description needed but it was all basic fundamental mistakes that needed cleaning up.

We ain't perfect by a longshot but we've also had 6 quarters with no scoring either so you take the good with the bad and move on. LaTech has a great offense and it will be a challenge. This will be the first dry game we've played since we were home last. On dry ground and at home, we are a different team.

I hope your punter kicks out of bounds every time and I hope we spray glue on the hands of our running backs.

From what I have seen with Tech this year offensively is this. We have a great receiving corps that has padded the QB's stats with a lot of YAC. We have not thrown the deep ball very well or very much. Our running game has been very good, but if MTSU stops the run and then stays on top of the intermediate and swing passes, we could get beat bad. The key to us winning is going to have to be establishing the run, making a few deep balls in order to do the dink and dunk offensive we are comfortable with. The key to MTSU will be keeping their offense on the field and forcing turnovers. Our QB is a game manager not a game changer, if he tries to force things, MTSU will capitalize on the mistakes.

(09-22-2016 10:00 AM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  Yup, we self destructed against Vandy no doubt. 6 hours with a 2 hour rain/lightning delay, a muffed punt for a safety, 2 blown KR coverages, a pick 6 (just about), stupid penalties and other shenanigans. It wasn't our D per say as much as it was everything else. They were on their heels because of bad field position most of the night. Yeah, it sucked. No other description needed but it was all basic fundamental mistakes that needed cleaning up.

We ain't perfect by a longshot but we've also had 6 quarters with no scoring either so you take the good with the bad and move on. LaTech has a great offense and it will be a challenge. This will be the first dry game we've played since we were home last. On dry ground and at home, we are a different team.

I hope your punter kicks out of bounds every time and I hope we spray glue on the hands of our running backs.

And I hope the game doesn't come down to our kicker having to make a field goal