Ahh, Brown ain't scum, or at least, not when it comes to coaching. Bobby Petrino is scum. Art Briles is scum. I'd argue John Calipari starts to push in that direction, too, but whatever, I'll let someone else call that one.
I'm not going to tell you Brown hasn't crossed some lines that he probably shouldn't have, but I don't see anybody getting killed or raped. He gave a kid some money to go see his dying grandmother and he and Kansas paid for it. He had a player lie and not take a class and he and SMU paid for it. I"m not proud of it, but those things don't make him scum.

If you get the chance, hire him. Read him the riot act first, but hire him.

Terry Holland, when he was Athletic Director, tried 3 times, and cleaned house twice, trying to right the ECU basketball ship. We thought the Pirates were making progress with Lebo and the pay-for-play after season tournament championship.

What would ECU give to have a Billy Donovan come to Greenville?

It is hard to build a winner. Consider how many years Houston struggled to find the right coach. Consider how many years NC State has struggled to find the right coach. DePaul can't seem to build a winner.

(09-20-2016 04:15 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  We've run a clean ship so hell no! Football has shown us we have to look at the Duke coaching tree not UNC.


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To hell with the "clean ship" when everyone else cheats also. And everyone knows they do. Add in the fact the we have sucked at round ball, well, FOREVER! I think it would be a home run but i'm pretty sure it will never happen.

What Larry Brown did at SMU was nothing short of amazing.

His hiring absolutely forced Houston to have to hire a name coach.

As a Houston fan... To see Moody regularly filled with a who's who list of A-listers, and rocking with a rowdy student section, was like staring into the sun.

That's at SMU.

What could he do in a basketball wonderland like the state of North Carolina is probably written in the stars..

(09-20-2016 05:18 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What Larry Brown did at SMU was nothing short of amazing.

His hiring absolutely forced Houston to have to hire a name coach.

As a Houston fan... To see Moody regularly filled with a who's who list of A-listers, and rocking with a rowdy student section, was like staring into the sun.

That's at SMU.

What could he do in a basketball wonderland like the state of North Carolina is probably written in the stars..

Yep, and not a single person on this board is going to change how ECU basketball turns out...including you

As much as I want to win in hoops and as much as I know how good of a coach Larry Brown IS, I don't think the spectre of NCAA issues is something ECU brass would be up to deal with when "it ends" for him in Greenville.

(09-20-2016 06:23 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 05:18 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What Larry Brown did at SMU was nothing short of amazing.

His hiring absolutely forced Houston to have to hire a name coach.

As a Houston fan... To see Moody regularly filled with a who's who list of A-listers, and rocking with a rowdy student section, was like staring into the sun.

That's at SMU.

What could he do in a basketball wonderland like the state of North Carolina is probably written in the stars..

Yep, and not a single person on this board is going to change how ECU basketball turns out...including you

We've seen the schedule.. We understand that.

(09-20-2016 06:59 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 06:23 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 05:18 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What Larry Brown did at SMU was nothing short of amazing.

His hiring absolutely forced Houston to have to hire a name coach.

As a Houston fan... To see Moody regularly filled with a who's who list of A-listers, and rocking with a rowdy student section, was like staring into the sun.

That's at SMU.

What could he do in a basketball wonderland like the state of North Carolina is probably written in the stars..

Yep, and not a single person on this board is going to change how ECU basketball turns out...including you

We've seen the schedule.. We understand that.

So, back to the point...why do you keep beating a dead horse when no one here can do anything about it?

(09-20-2016 07:49 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 06:59 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 06:23 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 05:18 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  What Larry Brown did at SMU was nothing short of amazing.

His hiring absolutely forced Houston to have to hire a name coach.

As a Houston fan... To see Moody regularly filled with a who's who list of A-listers, and rocking with a rowdy student section, was like staring into the sun.

That's at SMU.

What could he do in a basketball wonderland like the state of North Carolina is probably written in the stars..

Yep, and not a single person on this board is going to change how ECU basketball turns out...including you

We've seen the schedule.. We understand that.

So, back to the point...why do you keep beating a dead horse when no one here can do anything about it?

I simply see what a breath of fresh air Scottie Mo is to a lot of you...

...and don't look forward the change in of expression when the stale flatulence of Lebo wafts onto the board come basketball season...

We're all talking about basketball recruiting on here, and ECU fans are notably absent from certain threads.

(09-20-2016 02:08 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Brown — the only coach in history to win both an NCAA (KU, 1988) and NBA (Detroit, 2004) title — makes it clear his first preference would be to continue his Hall of Fame coaching career.

“I can’t retire,” Brown said Thursday in a phone conversation with the Star.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college...rylink=cpy

Too many ECU fans have said ECU MBB is a lost cause because it wont attract quality coaches and recruits. Brown would give ECU instant credibility. The guy has an affinity for your area of the country.

ECU wouldn't go there bc of his history w the NCAA. Plus he would never do that to Lebo bc of UNC ties

The fact that the NCAA hasn't given ECU the death penalty for UNC's continually mounting transgressions either indicates they are preparing to decimate ECU or they already have another scapegoat.

I kid, but really, I think it's pretty clear that any ECU slips would result in aggressive punishment by the NCAA. ECU gains would be perceived as resulting in UNC losses, and thus would not be accepted by the tribunal of death in Indianapolis.


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Matt Doherty (also a Carolina man) was 80-109 (.423) in 6 seasons when Larry Brown took the reigns at SMU. The year before he was 20-15, making a trip to the CIT Semifinals. 13-19 in his last year.

Jeff Lebo (another Carolina man) is 99-100 (.497) in 6 seasons at ECU, after getting fired with a 96-93 (.508) record at Auburn in 6 seasons there. He was a CIT Champion four seasons ago, and went 12-20 last year.

ECU is the only University willing to go back for season #7.

Meanwhile, SMU has a National program now, with enough talent to make the NCAA tournament.

My point is, Brown's history with the NCAA should have ECU salivating because you don't even have a program right now. What you have is a retirement plan for Jeff Lebo. That's the sole purpose of ECU basketball.

In two years he will accept the job in the next town over simply because they upped his pay to $9k a year and promised that they would re-finish the gym floor.

With the hoops talent surrounding ECU, Larry Brown would be a dream hire for ECU. Any ECU fan preaching prudence needs to get over that right now. I don't have a problem with Lance Armstrong doping and winning bc he was beating a bunch of other dopers. So if Larry bends the rules and wins, he's just doing what everyone else is doing. Bend away and beat some ass while you're at it. I would be over the moon with Larry Brown.

It gives Lebo a way to save face too. He can step aside for "personal reasons" and his friend and fellow UNC alum can slide in.

(09-21-2016 08:21 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  With the hoops talent surrounding ECU, Larry Brown would be a dream hire for ECU. Any ECU fan preaching prudence needs to get over that right now. I don't have a problem with Lance Armstrong doping and winning bc he was beating a bunch of other dopers. So if Larry bends the rules and wins, he's just doing what everyone else is doing. Bend away and beat some ass while you're at it. I would be over the moon with Larry Brown.

It gives Lebo a way to save face too. He can step aside for "personal reasons" and his friend and fellow UNC alum can slide in.

Personally, the rules and Larry's bags-o-cash are fine with me, it the constant job jumping.

There is about a 0.5% chance of Brown going to ECU. But hey I never thought Dunleavy would take the Tulane job.

My goodness- Lebo could reach out to former UNC coach-in-waiting and eastern North Carolina product, Phil Ford, to help with recruiting.

Phil had (another?) DUI while being an assistant coach at UNC. Phil was fired shortly after. Selling UNC isn't the hardest job in the world. Selling UNC against schools likes Kentucky and Duke is the magic.

We don't need to be Duke. We just need to get to the table to attract recruits.

(09-21-2016 09:51 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 08:21 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  With the hoops talent surrounding ECU, Larry Brown would be a dream hire for ECU. Any ECU fan preaching prudence needs to get over that right now. I don't have a problem with Lance Armstrong doping and winning bc he was beating a bunch of other dopers. So if Larry bends the rules and wins, he's just doing what everyone else is doing. Bend away and beat some ass while you're at it. I would be over the moon with Larry Brown.

It gives Lebo a way to save face too. He can step aside for "personal reasons" and his friend and fellow UNC alum can slide in.

There is about a 0.5% chance of Brown going to ECU. But hey I never thought Dunleavy would take the Tulane job.

I would be floored if Brown were hired at ECU, I'm just saying I wouldn't be against it. I don't think we'll move Lebo for another year, with the football expansion I don't think we have the cash to buy him out.

Larry is going to coach a Long Island high school team and make about $7000/year

Brown coached the Carolina Cougars. He played for Carolina. He would be a God-send to East Carolina. Frankly, he would be a God-send to the American! The American wants an ECU basketball program that competes like the ECU football program.

Let's let Larry coach ucf, usf, tulane, and ecu for 2 years each. Get each team back. The AAC might even subsidize it.