Conference Avg
American - 32,466
MWC - 25,028
CUSA - 22,666
SunBelt - 21,662
MAC - 17K EST


NonP5 Schools Averaging 30K+
BYU - 62,904
East Car - 47,440
San Diego St - 44,480
UCF - 39,728
Houston - 39,402
Memphis - 38,862
USF - 36,266
Boise - 36,163
Cincy - 34,268
UTEP - 34,006
Fresno St - 31,817
UConn - 30,206

Close to 30K
Navy
Temple
Southern Miss
Air Force
App St.

We should be at or over 30K after homecoming this weekend.

Last year our conference average was 31,842. Would be nice to be closer to 35k.

(09-20-2016 03:04 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Last year our conference average was 31,842. Would be nice to be closer to 35k.

That would be quite jump. USF should have over 60k for FSU and homecoming vs ECU should be close to 43-45k so that will go up. The games after that will depend how we fare vs FSU, UC and ECU.

Impressive SDSU

(09-18-2016 11:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Conference Avg
American - 32,466
MWC - 25,028
CUSA - 22,666
SunBelt - 21,662
MAC - 17K EST


NonP5 Schools Averaging 30K+
BYU - 62,904
East Car - 47,440
San Diego St - 44,480
UCF - 39,728
Houston - 39,402
Memphis - 38,862
USF - 36,266
Boise - 36,163
Cincy - 34,268
UTEP - 34,006
Fresno St - 31,817
UConn - 30,206

Close to 30K
Navy
Temple
Southern Miss
Air Force
App St.

Byu has had 1 home game
ECU had ncstate
Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?
UCF had Maryland at home
SDSU had Cal

These numbers are skewed. Some teams only have had one or two home games. Some against big rivals early. I don't know that it really means much yet. Some schools lie.

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?

Doesn't Houston's new stadium only seat 39,000 and change?

(09-20-2016 09:03 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?

Doesn't Houston's new stadium only seat 39,000 and change?

40,000 with an extra 2,000 stro.

(09-20-2016 10:25 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 09:03 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?

Doesn't Houston's new stadium only seat 39,000 and change?

40,000 with an extra 2,000 stro.

So 39,000 and change...

Only interesting question here is whether SDSU can average more than the Chargers. Answer is no, but the Chargers will likely make it close!

How about instead listing average % capacity with attendance figures. Or, tie in interesting facts. If App State can average close to 30K during the first week of hunting season, that would be impressive.

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(09-20-2016 10:47 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 10:25 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 09:03 PM)IceJus10 Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?

Doesn't Houston's new stadium only seat 39,000 and change?

40,000 with an extra 2,000 stro.

So 39,000 and change...

More like 40,000 and change...

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Conference Avg
American - 32,466
MWC - 25,028
CUSA - 22,666
SunBelt - 21,662
MAC - 17K EST


NonP5 Schools Averaging 30K+
BYU - 62,904
East Car - 47,440
San Diego St - 44,480
UCF - 39,728
Houston - 39,402
Memphis - 38,862
USF - 36,266
Boise - 36,163
Cincy - 34,268
UTEP - 34,006
Fresno St - 31,817
UConn - 30,206

Close to 30K
Navy
Temple
Southern Miss
Air Force
App St.

Byu has had 1 home game
ECU had ncstate
Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?
UCF had Maryland at home
SDSU had Cal

These numbers are skewed. Some teams only have had one or two home games. Some against big rivals early. I don't know that it really means much yet. Some schools lie.

I think skewed might not be the right word. They are averages based on actuals. And it's likely actual sold, not actual attended. I keep hearing the "I saw it on tv and it looked empty" thing all the time.

Whether or not a team plays a game in a given week, or scheduled certain teams that draw bigger crowds, is completely up to them. If Memphis wants to "un-skew" the numbers, for instance, they need to invite Louisville or Tennessee for a visit.

We could have sold 65k for NC State if we had the seats

I don't see the issue with reporting tickets sold as the attendance # for a game. Some of you act like unless the person buys the ticket AND shows up, there is a lack of interest but that isn't true at all. We need to stop this 'butts in seats as the gauge for interest' line of thinking because that is flawed reasoning. Butts in seats are great, but if the ticket is sold, the money taken in. It also indicates fan interest as most people aren't buying a ticket because they don't care. People buy tickets because they are interested. It is possible that something came up and they couldn't attend. Or its possible a fan, who lives too far away to attend, bought a ticket just to support the school and yet had no intention of going. Interest is still shown in that transaction. Any way you slice it, a purchased ticket IS a gauge for fan interest...the ultimate gauge, whether they show up and watch the game or not.

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Conference Avg
American - 32,466
MWC - 25,028
CUSA - 22,666
SunBelt - 21,662
MAC - 17K EST


NonP5 Schools Averaging 30K+
BYU - 62,904
East Car - 47,440
San Diego St - 44,480
UCF - 39,728
Houston - 39,402
Memphis - 38,862
USF - 36,266
Boise - 36,163
Cincy - 34,268
UTEP - 34,006
Fresno St - 31,817
UConn - 30,206

Close to 30K
Navy
Temple
Southern Miss
Air Force
App St.

Byu has had 1 home game
ECU had ncstate
Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?
UCF had Maryland at home
SDSU had Cal

These numbers are skewed. Some teams only have had one or two home games. Some against big rivals early. I don't know that it really means much yet. Some schools lie.

Skewed? It shouldnt matter who you play. Outside of getting of all time historically top 10 to play in your house who bring 10-20k of their own fans, I fail to see your reasoning. Using UCF as an example......Maryland is no power, in fact, very few of their fans traveled. They are P5 in name only. I also might add that this average includes an FCS game. I could easily make an argument that it was skewed too low. Just because you don't like the numbers, doesn't mean they are skewed.

(09-21-2016 06:44 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Conference Avg
American - 32,466
MWC - 25,028
CUSA - 22,666
SunBelt - 21,662
MAC - 17K EST


NonP5 Schools Averaging 30K+
BYU - 62,904
East Car - 47,440
San Diego St - 44,480
UCF - 39,728
Houston - 39,402
Memphis - 38,862
USF - 36,266
Boise - 36,163
Cincy - 34,268
UTEP - 34,006
Fresno St - 31,817
UConn - 30,206

Close to 30K
Navy
Temple
Southern Miss
Air Force
App St.

Byu has had 1 home game
ECU had ncstate
Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?
UCF had Maryland at home
SDSU had Cal

These numbers are skewed. Some teams only have had one or two home games. Some against big rivals early. I don't know that it really means much yet. Some schools lie.

Skewed? It shouldnt matter who you play. Outside of getting of all time historically top 10 to play in your house who bring 10-20k of their own fans, I fail to see your reasoning. Using UCF as an example......Maryland is no power, in fact, very few of their fans traveled. They are P5 in name only. I also might add that this average includes an FCS game. I could easily make an argument that it was skewed too low. Just because you don't like the numbers, doesn't mean they are skewed.

I see people saying this and it's silly. Sure it matters. And so does conference alignment.

Tell me Flordia would draw 90K for a home slate of Tulane, So. Miss, FIU, Georgia State, and Troy. And lets also say you are in a conference that has no NY6 bowl tie in for the winner and also in a conference where in most cases, your best year will get you a peach bowl bid and any hope of a play off is non existent because you aren't in a big boy conference.

It's one thing to be FLordia, playing in the SEC and have a few scrub home games to 'practice on' when your fans know Georgia, Bama, and etc. are coming in later, that your games are on CBS, and ESPN, and that you have as good a shot as anybody each year to make a playoff or at least win the SEC and get a major bowl.

Its another when you are in the G5, your home games are against teams you don't care about and you also know that you could win the conference and still not get a Sugar bowl/Fiesta bowl, etc. invite.

If Florida's home slate was what I listed every year and you were in a G5....you wouldn't need a stadium your size I can assure you of that. If you say otherwise you are either dimwitted or intellectually dishonest.

At 34,000 you've got to feel for the long-suffering UTEP fans. If that school could ever turn out a good winning team, I think it would draw ECU type numbers. Talk about potential.

(09-21-2016 07:06 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(09-21-2016 06:44 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-20-2016 08:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 11:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Conference Avg
American - 32,466
MWC - 25,028
CUSA - 22,666
SunBelt - 21,662
MAC - 17K EST


NonP5 Schools Averaging 30K+
BYU - 62,904
East Car - 47,440
San Diego St - 44,480
UCF - 39,728
Houston - 39,402
Memphis - 38,862
USF - 36,266
Boise - 36,163
Cincy - 34,268
UTEP - 34,006
Fresno St - 31,817
UConn - 30,206

Close to 30K
Navy
Temple
Southern Miss
Air Force
App St.

Byu has had 1 home game
ECU had ncstate
Houston is ranked 5th in nation and only has 39?
UCF had Maryland at home
SDSU had Cal

These numbers are skewed. Some teams only have had one or two home games. Some against big rivals early. I don't know that it really means much yet. Some schools lie.

Skewed? It shouldnt matter who you play. Outside of getting of all time historically top 10 to play in your house who bring 10-20k of their own fans, I fail to see your reasoning. Using UCF as an example......Maryland is no power, in fact, very few of their fans traveled. They are P5 in name only. I also might add that this average includes an FCS game. I could easily make an argument that it was skewed too low. Just because you don't like the numbers, doesn't mean they are skewed.

I see people saying this and it's silly. Sure it matters. And so does conference alignment.

Tell me Flordia would draw 90K for a home slate of Tulane, So. Miss, FIU, Georgia State, and Troy. And lets also say you are in a conference that has no NY6 bowl tie in for the winner and also in a conference where in most cases, your best year will get you a peach bowl bid and any hope of a play off is non existent because you aren't in a big boy conference.

It's one thing to be FLordia, playing in the SEC and have a few scrub home games to 'practice on' when your fans know Georgia, Bama, and etc. are coming in later, that your games are on CBS, and ESPN, and that you have as good a shot as anybody each year to make a playoff or at least win the SEC and get a major bowl.

Its another when you are in the G5, your home games are against teams you don't care about and you also know that you could win the conference and still not get a Sugar bowl/Fiesta bowl, etc. invite.

If Florida's home slate was what I listed every year and you were in a G5....you wouldn't need a stadium your size I can assure you of that. If you say otherwise you are either dimwitted or intellectually dishonest.

I can agree up to a point. Winning has everything to do with it, as well as fan base and hype. Those three things are important. Have all three and you are golden. Some teams will never have all three......ie NIU during their Orange Bowl run.
But my arguement was really in the context of the OP. Maryland is not a team that would skew any numbers.

(09-21-2016 08:35 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  At 34,000 you've got to feel for the long-suffering UTEP fans. If that school could ever turn out a good winning team, I think it would draw ECU type numbers. Talk about potential.

I've always had soft spot for UTEP, perhaps related to the Sun Bowl being one of the games that I always seemed to catch. I stopped by the stadium a handful of years ago on my way to Big Bend NP. It's in a great setting, and it's certainly a place I'd be interested in visiting. I'm not sure why UTEP - especially given their fan interest, attendance, and decent basketball history - hasn't found a spot in the Mountain West.

(09-21-2016 06:18 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I don't see the issue with reporting tickets sold as the attendance # for a game. Some of you act like unless the person buys the ticket AND shows up, there is a lack of interest but that isn't true at all. We need to stop this 'butts in seats as the gauge for interest' line of thinking because that is flawed reasoning. Butts in seats are great, but if the ticket is sold, the money taken in. It also indicates fan interest as most people aren't buying a ticket because they don't care. People buy tickets because they are interested. It is possible that something came up and they couldn't attend. Or its possible a fan, who lives too far away to attend, bought a ticket just to support the school and yet had no intention of going. Interest is still shown in that transaction. Any way you slice it, a purchased ticket IS a gauge for fan interest...the ultimate gauge, whether they show up and watch the game or not.

This. If you sold the tickets, it counts.