I can't wait until nuggets ghost, 99 and a few others find their way over here to meet wkuyg.
Oh it's gonna get good.

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

Memphis didn't take the Liberty Bowl anywhere. After Memphis joined the AAC, the bowl signed a contract with the BigXII and SEC. Neither the school nor the AAC have any connection to the Liberty Bowl.

(08-22-2016 03:44 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I can't wait until nuggets ghost, 99 and a few others find their way over here to meet wkuyg.
Oh it's gonna get good.

The truth will set them free....

no not what their mind thought they saw or know. But the god honest truth.

That truth is that at no point since 2004 has CUSA been ranked higher than 2014....SRS. Mountain West Conference took 1st among the G5 by .24 points. 3.19 for CUSA to 2.95

There are 6 seasons with a better SRS but most of those had 8 schools or less

(08-22-2016 03:46 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

Memphis didn't take the Liberty Bowl anywhere. After Memphis joined the AAC, the bowl signed a contract with the BigXII and SEC. Neither the school nor the AAC have any connection to the Liberty Bowl.

The bowl tie-in changed when Memphis left the conference. Thought that had something to do with it.

(08-22-2016 03:00 PM)jamrob Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

Indy feels like having the last place SEC team or being an alternate for the last place team is a feather in their cap. I know this, BOCA whatever or the Bahamas isnt going to get it done. I can barely name them. HOD Dallas isnt bad but it has yet to see a C USA West team against the BIG XII, at least it seems that way since we've been involved.
Your right though, C USA Champ or at least Division Champ on one side of the Indy against the SEC would draw and be very popular.

If TECH should win the West and be the top seed, the Championship Game would be at Independence Stadium which would draw about 45,000. Thats what you want.

Come on. The divisional championship at your house last year says there is no reason to play the CG anywhere but Ruston.

When was the last time Ruston sold out?

(08-22-2016 04:33 PM)GoBigGold Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 03:00 PM)jamrob Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

Indy feels like having the last place SEC team or being an alternate for the last place team is a feather in their cap. I know this, BOCA whatever or the Bahamas isnt going to get it done. I can barely name them. HOD Dallas isnt bad but it has yet to see a C USA West team against the BIG XII, at least it seems that way since we've been involved.
Your right though, C USA Champ or at least Division Champ on one side of the Indy against the SEC would draw and be very popular.

If TECH should win the West and be the top seed, the Championship Game would be at Independence Stadium which would draw about 45,000. Thats what you want.

Come on. The divisional championship at your house last year says there is no reason to play the CG anywhere but Ruston.

When was the last time Ruston sold out?

2015 Southern Jags. Our stadium will not be available in December due to expansion set to begin immediately after last home game. Given the right matchup we always draw well in Shreveport.

Last year, I dont know what happened to our attendance and game performance, both very atypical.

(08-22-2016 09:24 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  I have posted less on this board recently because I have been posting on the new USM board on this site to help it get going. It has absolutely nothing to do with any nonsense about the teams that left. When the season starts I will be back here more. Been posting here since 2003 and have no plans to stop posting here.

that was exactly my point.....I didn't expect this 'lashing'....sometimes I do think many understand what's going on in my head....

there is no questioning I don't explain myself so well at times....

I just want the game threads to continue on this board....they're too much fun with the handful that participate across the spectrum of the current members....young/old doesn't mean shite to me when it comes to game time smackola...

....and it is nice to have a civil 'local' board within a 'cliche' away now...

I should have been clearer in the OP....my mistake...

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.

Did you just pull this out of your azz? In their last 10 years in CUSA Houston had 7 winning seasons and went to bowls in 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2011. UH had double digit win totals in 3 of those seasons. Only 2 of Houstons 7 winning seasons during that period had win totals of less than 8 games. How you get 3 winning seasons out that with 2 of them being "1 game swings" I don't know. While that performance was pretty good, S Miss went that entire period without suffering a single losing season. So they did just fine prior to the new schools entering. Im guessing the rest of your data is just as flawed.

(08-22-2016 05:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.

Did you just pull this out of your azz? In their last 10 years in CUSA Houston had 7 winning seasons and went to bowls in 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2011. UH had double digit win totals in 3 of those seasons. Only 2 of Houstons 7 winning seasons during that period had win totals of less than 8 games. How you get 3 winning seasons out that with 2 of them being "1 game swings" I don't know. While that performance was pretty good, S Miss went that entire period without suffering a single losing season. So they did just fine prior to the new schools entering. Im guessing the rest of your data is just as flawed.

Thanks coog. But it falls on deaf ears.

(08-22-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 03:44 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I can't wait until nuggets ghost, 99 and a few others find their way over here to meet wkuyg.
Oh it's gonna get good.

The truth will set them free....

no not what their mind thought they saw or know. But the god honest truth.

That truth is that at no point since 2004 has CUSA been ranked higher than 2014....SRS. Mountain West Conference took 1st among the G5 by .24 points. 3.19 for CUSA to 2.95

There are 6 seasons with a better SRS but most of those had 8 schools or less

I appreciate the irony of a jabroni whose school was piddling around in FCS at the time trying to lecture us about how things used to be.

(08-22-2016 06:45 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 03:44 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I can't wait until nuggets ghost, 99 and a few others find their way over here to meet wkuyg.
Oh it's gonna get good.

The truth will set them free....

no not what their mind thought they saw or know. But the god honest truth.

That truth is that at no point since 2004 has CUSA been ranked higher than 2014....SRS. Mountain West Conference took 1st among the G5 by .24 points. 3.19 for CUSA to 2.95

There are 6 seasons with a better SRS but most of those had 8 schools or less

I appreciate the irony of a jabroni whose school was piddling around in FCS at the time trying to lecture us about how things used to be.

that ol' boy is something else....

what's really scary, is he's not that stupid....

...maybe he's looking to Marciani for AD guidance

(08-22-2016 04:10 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 03:46 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

Memphis didn't take the Liberty Bowl anywhere. After Memphis joined the AAC, the bowl signed a contract with the BigXII and SEC. Neither the school nor the AAC have any connection to the Liberty Bowl.

The bowl tie-in changed when Memphis left the conference. Thought that had something to do with it.

No doubt it did, but the switch was done for the benefit of the bowl not for Memphis. Guess they figured since it was no longer in Cusa there wouldn't be the local interest in having the Cusa champ particularly with all the new adds.

(08-22-2016 02:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

I bet you no Western player would have chose ‎Shreveport, Louisiana over Miami. As a fan I wouldn't either. I might be mistaken but I bet that goes for Marshall/Middle /FIU/FAU/ ODU and Charlotte

For me it is more about the Bowl and the opponent than the locale. I would choose the Indy vs ACC or SEC over the NO bowl, Boca, Miami and Bahamas everyday of the week.

CUSA 1.0 was the best non power. CUSA 2.0 had some decent football. The WAC was just as competitive as CUSA 2.0 with sending teams to the BCS and having multiple teams ranked.

Been posting (reading moreso though) since I got pissed at Fedora in '09 when we lost to Dwayne Harris & ECU at home when we led 21-0 early in the game. That was back when we had To__ Bra_for_ as DC. Who remembers that? I came here to vent about how Fedora couldn't coach defense worth a damn. I haven't been posting as much mainly because of Eloss Johnson and the conference shake-up created a little bit of apathy in me, but lasts years team brought me online more.

The USM posters will pick back up once we beat Kentucky next week.

TTT...

(08-22-2016 05:27 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 05:09 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.

Did you just pull this out of your azz? In their last 10 years in CUSA Houston had 7 winning seasons and went to bowls in 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2011. UH had double digit win totals in 3 of those seasons. Only 2 of Houstons 7 winning seasons during that period had win totals of less than 8 games. How you get 3 winning seasons out that with 2 of them being "1 game swings" I don't know. While that performance was pretty good, S Miss went that entire period without suffering a single losing season. So they did just fine prior to the new schools entering. Im guessing the rest of your data is just as flawed.

Thanks coog. But it falls on deaf ears.

Maybe you should learn to read what is wrote...which I admit could be my fault on that by the way I wrote it...

BEFORE UofL, Cincy, & TCU left CUSA you had exactly what I said. As I said...

if you started winning AFTER those schools left...maybe you didn't all of a sudden get better. Maybe it was because the better teams left.

Now was that too hard to understand?

Let me make it clearer....

Houston started winning consistently after the BETTER PROGRAMS left.

(08-22-2016 06:45 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 03:44 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I can't wait until nuggets ghost, 99 and a few others find their way over here to meet wkuyg.
Oh it's gonna get good.

The truth will set them free....

no not what their mind thought they saw or know. But the god honest truth.

That truth is that at no point since 2004 has CUSA been ranked higher than 2014....SRS. Mountain West Conference took 1st among the G5 by .24 points. 3.19 for CUSA to 2.95

There are 6 seasons with a better SRS but most of those had 8 schools or less

I appreciate the irony of a jabroni whose school was piddling around in FCS at the time trying to lecture us about how things used to be.

What you should feel is shame for letting a school that was playing in FCS just 8 years ago do something S.MISS never did in this conference. Run the table and win the championship....

doing that by running S. Miss off the field

BTW where Western was playing has nothing to do with how good CUSA was or wasn't back then. If CUSA was as great as some of you want to make it out to be....

7 out of 9 years without a top 25 finish...the good programs left when UofL, Cincy and TCU walked..no, ran, out the door. Hey once those schools left ...someone has to win. That's the nature of conference play. Someone is going to win every game that is played in conference play. So did those next group get better or started winning because the talent level of the conference came down?



Sounds great to me

(08-22-2016 09:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 06:45 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 03:44 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I can't wait until nuggets ghost, 99 and a few others find their way over here to meet wkuyg.
Oh it's gonna get good.

The truth will set them free....

no not what their mind thought they saw or know. But the god honest truth.

That truth is that at no point since 2004 has CUSA been ranked higher than 2014....SRS. Mountain West Conference took 1st among the G5 by .24 points. 3.19 for CUSA to 2.95

There are 6 seasons with a better SRS but most of those had 8 schools or less

I appreciate the irony of a jabroni whose school was piddling around in FCS at the time trying to lecture us about how things used to be.

What you should feel is shame for letting a school that was playing in FCS just 8 years ago do something S.MISS never did in this conference. Run the table and win the championship....

doing that by running S. Miss off the field

BTW where Western was playing has nothing to do with how good CUSA was or wasn't back then. If CUSA was as great as some of you want to make it out to be....

7 out of 9 years without a top 25 finish...the good programs left when UofL, Cincy and TCU walked..no, ran, out the door. Hey once those schools left ...someone has to win. That's the nature of conference play. Someone is going to win every game that is played in conference play. So did those next group get better or started winning because the talent level of the conference came down?



Sounds great to me

The Sunbelt has never had team ranked period start to finish. So compare to that, yes on completely different level than the Sunbelt. WKU would not have been ranked still playing in the Sunbelt after losing to Indiana, maybe after winning the bowl game against USF but would have been close.

BTW During Tech WAC years 2000-2012, a team finished ranked every year except 2, 4 times multiple teams ended the year ranked

(08-22-2016 09:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 06:45 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 04:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 03:44 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I can't wait until nuggets ghost, 99 and a few others find their way over here to meet wkuyg.
Oh it's gonna get good.

The truth will set them free....

no not what their mind thought they saw or know. But the god honest truth.

That truth is that at no point since 2004 has CUSA been ranked higher than 2014....SRS. Mountain West Conference took 1st among the G5 by .24 points. 3.19 for CUSA to 2.95

There are 6 seasons with a better SRS but most of those had 8 schools or less

I appreciate the irony of a jabroni whose school was piddling around in FCS at the time trying to lecture us about how things used to be.

What you should feel is shame for letting a school that was playing in FCS just 8 years ago do something S.MISS never did in this conference. Run the table and win the championship....

doing that by running S. Miss off the field

BTW where Western was playing has nothing to do with how good CUSA was or wasn't back then. If CUSA was as great as some of you want to make it out to be....

7 out of 9 years without a top 25 finish...the good programs left when UofL, Cincy and TCU walked..no, ran, out the door. Hey once those schools left ...someone has to win. That's the nature of conference play. Someone is going to win every game that is played in conference play. So did those next group get better or started winning because the talent level of the conference came down?



Sounds great to me

Congratulations on your first C-USA title. In the easiest version in this conference's history. It must be a good feeling. I wouldn't know, when it happened to us I was only a toddler. I'm almost positive that USM has titles from '97, '99, and '03 by "running the table" and not losing a conference game... But if we're not counting those years, fair enough.

(08-22-2016 08:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  CUSA 1.0 was the best non power. CUSA 2.0 had some decent football. Boise and Fresno were just as competitive as CUSA 2.0 with sending teams to the BCS and having multiple teams ranked.

fify