other than a few of those school USM played with over the years in the METRO/CUSA built their programs while playing in the conference. Not many, including UofL came into the conference as a name. Hell during the 90s most of UofL's highest attendance games were vs 1AA Western. That's how bad they were.


I understand you hate losing or seeing a program move on after investing the years it too to see that program grow into the football program they became. But it took them years to do that growing. I see fans point out wins over UofL as a sign of how good they were...

well beating UofL 14 years ago or when they made the really bad hire a few years ago is not the same program as today.

But we all hate seeing school move on that we thing our program is just as good as and in some cases better

(08-22-2016 09:49 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  other than a few of those school USM played with over the years in the METRO/CUSA built their programs while playing in the conference. Not many, including UofL came into the conference as a name. Hell during the 90s most of UofL's highest attendance games were vs 1AA Western. That's how bad they were.


I understand you hate losing or seeing a program move on after investing the years it too to see that program grow into the football program they became. But it took them years to do that growing. I see fans point out wins over UofL as a sign of how good they were...

well beating UofL 14 years ago or when they made the really bad hire a few years ago is not the same program as today.

But we all hate seeing school move on that we thing our program is just as good as and in some cases better

We beat them when they were good also. The year they went to the Fiesta Bowl and spanked Bama, Southern Miss beat the Cards. They did get us a few times during their final years in C-USA with Ragone as their QB, though. I don't think Redman ever won a game vs USM as a QB. Louisville has built their program, and they deserve what they have gotten. They better appreciate Tom Jurich for the job he has done as their AD. But ask Cardinal fans what CUSA football game was circled on their schedule, and they will tell you Southern Miss.

Then ask ECU, Memphis, TCU, Houston, etc, and a majority will tell you Southern Miss. That's because, until E12Loss "Death Penalty" Johnson took over, Southern Miss was a player every year for the CUSA Championship. If Hop can continue what Monken began, that will be the case again.

(08-21-2016 01:18 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  ...now that our local boards have mostly evacuated to this bbs' option....

just wanted to say that game threads still belong on this one!!!!

it's much more funnerererererer when the 'gangs' all get together...

to all anticipating the verve going into this season!

Wow this thread got derailed quickly. I think Stink's point was that since we got The Perch up and running So Miss's traffic on the main board had decreased and was encouraging those posters to return to this board every now and again. Not a knock on this conference (though a valid complaint among USM and Marshall fans).

(08-22-2016 10:10 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 09:49 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  other than a few of those school USM played with over the years in the METRO/CUSA built their programs while playing in the conference. Not many, including UofL came into the conference as a name. Hell during the 90s most of UofL's highest attendance games were vs 1AA Western. That's how bad they were.


I understand you hate losing or seeing a program move on after investing the years it too to see that program grow into the football program they became. But it took them years to do that growing. I see fans point out wins over UofL as a sign of how good they were...

well beating UofL 14 years ago or when they made the really bad hire a few years ago is not the same program as today.

But we all hate seeing school move on that we thing our program is just as good as and in some cases better

We beat them when they were good also. The year they went to the Fiesta Bowl and spanked Bama, Southern Miss beat the Cards. They did get us a few times during their final years in C-USA with Ragone as their QB, though. I don't think Redman ever won a game vs USM as a QB. Louisville has built their program, and they deserve what they have gotten. They better appreciate Tom Jurich for the job he has done as their AD. But ask Cardinal fans what CUSA football game was circled on their schedule, and they will tell you Southern Miss.

Then ask ECU, Memphis, TCU, Houston, etc, and a majority will tell you Southern Miss. That's because, until E12Loss "Death Penalty" Johnson took over, Southern Miss was a player every year for the CUSA Championship. If Hop can continue what Monken began, that will be the case again.

I can understand USM fans point on this....

any other fan left over in this conference has no point because they were for the most part getting their brains kicked in by the schools that left. Sure there might have been a win here or there but overall there's a reason those schools (who's fans long for yesterday) were losing.

So they have zero reason to be crying about those long pasted days where "CUSA was good"...CUSA would have been better if they did not suck so much.

But lets not get confused...even with those long gone programs CUSA was still 2 or 3rd from the bottom. A few programs got past that and jumped. But as a whole CUSA was never respected like a few people want to believe the conference was. Was it more than today? Sure. But not a lot more.

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.

Well WKU...that's easy for you to say! You moved "up" when you moved to CUSA, I don't expect you or any of the newcomers to understand. But we (USM, Marshall, UTEP, Rice, and UAB) were left behind. And yes, UofL, TCU and Houston had their winning moments in CUSA, but not to sound conceited...but USM was considered the "cream of the crop" back in CUSA 1.0, 2.0...we didn't start winning when TCU or Lousiville left, we were beating their butts regularly. You might need to go back and do your homework. CUSA 1.0 had some fine institutions in it. CUSA today also has some fine institutions in it too. But some of us "older" members are use to player familiar foes that we basically grew up with. And to be honest, we are that enthusiastic about playing ODU, UTSA, and Charlotte only because they have not got a foundation yet in terms of Football. I understand that might butthurt some from those fanbase but truth is the truth. I respect every school in this conference and root for every one of them in non conference games but...how would you feel if we just up and left WKU behind..and you were left with playing teams you aren't familiar with and they were only playing 1 or 2 years of football??

(08-22-2016 10:10 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 09:49 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  other than a few of those school USM played with over the years in the METRO/CUSA built their programs while playing in the conference. Not many, including UofL came into the conference as a name. Hell during the 90s most of UofL's highest attendance games were vs 1AA Western. That's how bad they were.


I understand you hate losing or seeing a program move on after investing the years it too to see that program grow into the football program they became. But it took them years to do that growing. I see fans point out wins over UofL as a sign of how good they were...

well beating UofL 14 years ago or when they made the really bad hire a few years ago is not the same program as today.

But we all hate seeing school move on that we thing our program is just as good as and in some cases better

We beat them when they were good also. The year they went to the Fiesta Bowl and spanked Bama, Southern Miss beat the Cards. They did get us a few times during their final years in C-USA with Ragone as their QB, though. I don't think Redman ever won a game vs USM as a QB. Louisville has built their program, and they deserve what they have gotten. They better appreciate Tom Jurich for the job he has done as their AD. But ask Cardinal fans what CUSA football game was circled on their schedule, and they will tell you Southern Miss.

Then ask ECU, Memphis, TCU, Houston, etc, and a majority will tell you Southern Miss. That's because, until E12Loss "Death Penalty" Johnson took over, Southern Miss was a player every year for the CUSA Championship. If Hop can continue what Monken began, that will be the case again.

Which is funny because a LOT of your fans gave us hell in our early years of CUSA for not winning, but we also made a very bad coaching hire. And, unfortunately, it took us 5 years to get rid of him instead of 2, our first 5 years here. Had we gotten Doc, then, or Pruett had stayed, the same Pruett that was routinely whipping CUSA teams in bowls, I think our early CUSA records would have looked much different. But that's an "if" that can never be.

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.

This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.

Noun-verb agreement is a good thing

(08-22-2016 09:35 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:45 AM)doughtyrowdy Wrote:  I get the negative of watching your rivals leaving for greener pastures. Heck, we watched the original Sun Belt schools leave us in the early Nineties. However, I do think there is a danger in looking in the rear view mirror. Nothing can change what's been done. I'm very thankful WKU has an administration who's looking at the big picture of this age of conference reshuffling. It's becoming more of a matter of self preservation with all G5 schools that you position yourself - should the call come

That's something that USM fans are good at. "Living in the past." Especially "older" USM fans that have seen the memorable games/moments USM had.

You have to understand. USM went from being in a conference with Florida St. and Virginia Tech (Metro), to a conference with Cincy, Louisville, ECU, TCU, Tulane (who outside of 1998 hasn't had a good team), Houston, Memphis (original C-USA), to a conference with UCF, Tulsa, SMU (C-USA 2.0) to a conference with schools that weren't even playing football when USM was winning C-USA.

Not trying to disparage the new members, most of these schools have a lot to bring to the table, on multiple levels. It's just hard for SOME USM fans to move on, because in our case these teams didn't get to where they are now because of on-the-field success in football....If that were the case, USM would have been in a "P5" conference the first time around. Almost certain, outside of Tulsa? maybe, that USM has a winning record vs. every C-USA school that has moved on.

Why we haven't gotten to a "bigger" conference? Well, that's a story for another day, and it's not as simple as TV market.

I never understood why Jeff Bower was fired. One could make a good argument that Southern was the best football team in Mississippi for many years.

(08-22-2016 01:32 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.

Noun-verb agreement is a good thing

If you want the job of correcting my mistakes in grammar, spelling mistakes (leaving letters off) or just leaving whole words out...

you will have a long day.

But other than that...
citizen arrest, citizen arrest...we have a Barney Fife in the house

Yo

(08-22-2016 01:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:32 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

The good old days...we all love to look back on! The only thing, most of the time, they really don't look the way we remember them.

Noun-verb agreement is a good thing

If you want the job of correcting my mistakes in grammar, spelling mistakes (leaving letters off) or just leaving whole words out...

you will have a long day.

But other than that...
citizen arrest, citizen arrest...we have a Barney Fife in the house

And a Gomer Pyle, but it is all good. It was a joke, man.

(08-22-2016 12:45 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 10:10 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 09:49 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  other than a few of those school USM played with over the years in the METRO/CUSA built their programs while playing in the conference. Not many, including UofL came into the conference as a name. Hell during the 90s most of UofL's highest attendance games were vs 1AA Western. That's how bad they were.


I understand you hate losing or seeing a program move on after investing the years it too to see that program grow into the football program they became. But it took them years to do that growing. I see fans point out wins over UofL as a sign of how good they were...

well beating UofL 14 years ago or when they made the really bad hire a few years ago is not the same program as today.

But we all hate seeing school move on that we thing our program is just as good as and in some cases better

We beat them when they were good also. The year they went to the Fiesta Bowl and spanked Bama, Southern Miss beat the Cards. They did get us a few times during their final years in C-USA with Ragone as their QB, though. I don't think Redman ever won a game vs USM as a QB. Louisville has built their program, and they deserve what they have gotten. They better appreciate Tom Jurich for the job he has done as their AD. But ask Cardinal fans what CUSA football game was circled on their schedule, and they will tell you Southern Miss.

Then ask ECU, Memphis, TCU, Houston, etc, and a majority will tell you Southern Miss. That's because, until E12Loss "Death Penalty" Johnson took over, Southern Miss was a player every year for the CUSA Championship. If Hop can continue what Monken began, that will be the case again.

Which is funny because a LOT of your fans gave us hell in our early years of CUSA for not winning, but we also made a very bad coaching hire. And, unfortunately, it took us 5 years to get rid of him instead of 2, our first 5 years here. Had we gotten Doc, then, or Pruett had stayed, the same Pruett that was routinely whipping CUSA teams in bowls, I think our early CUSA records would have looked much different. But that's an "if" that can never be.

At that point, that was all "we" had seen of Marshall. Yes, you may have beaten some CUSA teams in bowl games, but to be honest, the only game I remember yall winning before you came into CUSA was that crazy game vs ECU. And nobody in the south pays any attention to what goes on in the MAC. That's just the way it is.

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.

This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

(08-22-2016 02:10 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 12:45 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 10:10 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 09:49 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  other than a few of those school USM played with over the years in the METRO/CUSA built their programs while playing in the conference. Not many, including UofL came into the conference as a name. Hell during the 90s most of UofL's highest attendance games were vs 1AA Western. That's how bad they were.


I understand you hate losing or seeing a program move on after investing the years it too to see that program grow into the football program they became. But it took them years to do that growing. I see fans point out wins over UofL as a sign of how good they were...

well beating UofL 14 years ago or when they made the really bad hire a few years ago is not the same program as today.

But we all hate seeing school move on that we thing our program is just as good as and in some cases better

We beat them when they were good also. The year they went to the Fiesta Bowl and spanked Bama, Southern Miss beat the Cards. They did get us a few times during their final years in C-USA with Ragone as their QB, though. I don't think Redman ever won a game vs USM as a QB. Louisville has built their program, and they deserve what they have gotten. They better appreciate Tom Jurich for the job he has done as their AD. But ask Cardinal fans what CUSA football game was circled on their schedule, and they will tell you Southern Miss.

Then ask ECU, Memphis, TCU, Houston, etc, and a majority will tell you Southern Miss. That's because, until E12Loss "Death Penalty" Johnson took over, Southern Miss was a player every year for the CUSA Championship. If Hop can continue what Monken began, that will be the case again.

Which is funny because a LOT of your fans gave us hell in our early years of CUSA for not winning, but we also made a very bad coaching hire. And, unfortunately, it took us 5 years to get rid of him instead of 2, our first 5 years here. Had we gotten Doc, then, or Pruett had stayed, the same Pruett that was routinely whipping CUSA teams in bowls, I think our early CUSA records would have looked much different. But that's an "if" that can never be.

At that point, that was all "we" had seen of Marshall. Yes, you may have beaten some CUSA teams in bowl games, but to be honest, the only game I remember yall winning before you came into CUSA was that crazy game vs ECU. And nobody in the south pays any attention to what goes on in the MAC. That's just the way it is.

Marshall has come a long way. In CUSA 2.0, they were in the bottom half of the league. Now they're back on track with Holliday. I'm very glad they are here.

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.

This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

I think most Tech fans would like that. The Indy Bowl folks love the SEC, however, and enjoy and prefer having their 9th place team.

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.

This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

I bet you no Western player would have chose ‎Shreveport, Louisiana over Miami. As a fan I wouldn't either. I might be mistaken but I bet that goes for Marshall/Middle /FIU/FAU/ ODU and Charlotte

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.

This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

No what every conference should be fighting for is a playoff involving all Conf champs.

(08-22-2016 02:21 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 01:24 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(08-22-2016 08:06 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 11:29 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-21-2016 09:38 PM)MU42 Wrote:  Personally I can't speak for So Miss fans, but as a Herd fan I was a daily to several times per day visitor and poster, then we lost 7 teams from the conference and our entire division either to another conference or to the West division. Now I know we will win 5 games in conf. I should be excited about that, but it's as much because we are better now as it is everyone else is bad. So its hard to get as excited as it was. I remember being excited for 11 out of 12 games and now I will probably care about 5 games. It's just sad.

This.

Looking back, CUSA 2.0 was actually kinda enjoyable. ECU, UCF, Houston were usually games you couldn't miss. Now Marshall and LaTech are the only teams that somewhat excite me.

The goal of winning CUSA and going to the Liberty Bowl used to be a big deal to me. I was in Bowling Green last year for the title game and it honestly felt like just another game to me.

The Liberty Bowl was awesome when it was CUSA Champ vs MTN West champ. Then they changed it to the 13th place SEC team & it sucked. It's sucked ever since.

I always looked forward to that game even though Tech was not involved. It would be great if CUSA/MWC champs could play again in the LB.

When Memphis left, they took the Liberty Bowl with them. Would be nice if there was a bowl for our #1 team. Miami Beach Bowl sucks. I'd try to get the Indy Bowl with the LaTech/North Louisiana connection.

Indy feels like having the last place SEC team or being an alternate for the last place team is a feather in their cap. I know this, BOCA whatever or the Bahamas isnt going to get it done. I can barely name them. HOD Dallas isnt bad but it has yet to see a C USA West team against the BIG XII, at least it seems that way since we've been involved.
Your right though, C USA Champ or at least Division Champ on one side of the Indy against the SEC would draw and be very popular.

If TECH should win the West and be the top seed, the Championship Game would be at Independence Stadium which would draw about 45,000. Thats what you want.

(08-22-2016 08:17 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Some of you need to stop living in the past and join the living....

not only that your mind seems to be slipping because it's been about 10 years now since CUSA was "considered good"

Went from 2005 to 2009 without a team finishing the season in the top 25...

Just in case some of you can't count...that's 5 seasons after UofL, Cincy, & TCU left without having one team that was good enough to finish in the top 25.

If you wasn't winning before those schools left and then some how started winning....maybe, just maybe, you were winning because those 3 schools beat the crap out of you.

Houston had THREE winning seasons out of 10 and 2 of those were a 1 game swing before those schools left. Hell Houston had 3 winning seasons in the previous 15 before those schools left CUSA. So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

ECU had a winning season 4 out of 10 times and just like Houston 2 of those were a 1 game swing . So maybe the conference dropped down to their level instead of CUSA "being good".

Then lets jump forward to when the next group left....

if you wasn't winning before those schools left the conference..then started winning. Maybe there's a reason for that and it not that you "got good".

CUSA had a school ranked in the finial AP poll 2 out of the previous 9 seasons before Western joined CUSA and 2 out of 8 before most of the others joined this conference.

So it's been a LONG LONG LONG TIME since CUSA was "considered good" or one of the "best conferences". Hell Marshall wasn't even in CUSA when it was one of the "best conferences"

Maybe if you are winning today and not when those other schools left...

you should be thinking them for leaving. There is a reason you were left behind. Well a few but getting your brains beat out might have played a role in it.

I take it some of your reference is to USM since that is the only current school aside from UAB that was a member when TCU, UL, and UC were all in.

From 1996 through the 2004 season here are the times that schools were champs/co-champs of Cusa 1.0: Houston--1, TCU--1, Cincy--1, Tulane--1, Louisville--3, and USM--4 times.

USM did just fine against UL, Cincy, and TCU. Actually you could say it did better. For that matter, 6 of 11 champs/co-champs were held by schools left behind in Cusa 2.0. So, no, I don't think the argument that those schools started winning only after the 3 left for the BE is accurate, particularly in the case of USM.