(08-16-2016 03:26 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  I hope Temple is working with Uconn on contingency plans. Would be nice to go somewhere together.

Temple not going anywhere. Finally all sports in one conference after being split for decades. UCONN is surrendering FB if they do this. No avenue for P5. AAC schools not likely to approve this if floated, IMO.

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(08-16-2016 03:41 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:40 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And hey by all means pay 10 million to leave to go independent. You do realize there's no way in hell UCONN is paying the exit fee and giving up their share of the war chest. You are talking about somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 million dollars to what go join the MAC or be independent? That's beyond stupid.

Agree. Not practical, but I also understand why some UConn fans like the alternative.

Oh I get it, there were many ECU fans screaming the same thing when it looked like we were gonna get left in remaining hell of C-USA, but if you spend more than about 5 seconds thinking about it you realize it's not happening. I mean but hey if they want to give the rest of us around 20 million or so enjoy Indy.

Blaudshun is a hack and writes on some site no better than a blog.

(08-16-2016 03:34 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:30 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:27 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  UConn fans will go ape if we don't do something. The writing is on the wall. Our admins realize that the fans will not be able to accept being in a severely diminished AAC in terms of basketball appeal. They'll do what they have to in order to save basketball at this point. UConn has no interest in carrying an entire conference in basketball, the way Memphis used to in CUSA.

Enjoy irrelevance in football...

How is that any different from now at least in this scenario we will be making some money

ACCESS Bowl? No shot. Less than irrelevance for UCONN FB is you do this. Maybe the Yankee Conference will take you in again.

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(08-16-2016 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has a new story up, behind a pay wall, on this subject.

I can't see it, bit somebody posted this recap (and opinion on Blaudschun's source) on another board:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Football at Uconn is over if they go independent. Good riddance if they do.

Hate to lose Uconn bball but I for one am sick of hearing how they believe they deserve better than everyone else in this league.

Football drives expansion. Always has and always will.

(08-16-2016 03:49 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has a new story up, behind a pay wall, on this subject.

I can't see it, bit somebody posted this recap (and opinion on Blaudschun's source) on another board:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Football at Uconn is over if they go independent. Good riddance if they do.

Why would the AAC be interested in UConn for football only?

I don't see anybody allowing UCONN as a football only member , just no value in that. If UCONN goes back to the old big east I could see football dropping to FCS or dropped completely

(08-16-2016 03:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:49 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has a new story up, behind a pay wall, on this subject.

I can't see it, bit somebody posted this recap (and opinion on Blaudschun's source) on another board:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Football at Uconn is over if they go independent. Good riddance if they do.

Why would the AAC be interested in UConn for football only?

They wouldn't be. UCONN basketball is absolutely irreplaceable, but UCONN football is completely replaceable. UCONN football brings far less value to the league than just adding whoever and cashing the buyout check and redistributing their Big East war chest share.

(08-16-2016 03:55 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I don't see anybody allowing UCONN as a football only member , just no value in that. If UCONN goes back to the old big east I could see football dropping to FCS or dropped completely

And if you do that you basically kill any shot at Big10 or ACC

(08-16-2016 03:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:49 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has a new story up, behind a pay wall, on this subject.

I can't see it, bit somebody posted this recap (and opinion on Blaudschun's source) on another board:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Football at Uconn is over if they go independent. Good riddance if they do.

Why would the AAC be interested in UConn for football only?

Because we'd throw in a few basketball games for your RPI. Say, hypothetically, the AAC loses three of UH/UC/UCF/MEM, how much leverage do the remaining schools really have there? You don't think that your TV partner would rather have UConn in the mix over whoever you'd replace us with (Southern Mississippi)? I get that you all don't love our football program, but the reality is that we are a known brand in a large market and your other options frankly aren't all that attractive when you weigh this out from a TV perspective.

All of that said, I think this leak is not what it appears. I would guess that UConn is trying to leverage its position relative to ESPN. Is that a good idea, I have no idea? But I can tell you that we can no longer afford to earn less for all of our sports than we used to earn for T3 women's basketball. At a bare minimum, whatever is left of this conference needs to go towards an unbalanced compensation model to survive.

(08-16-2016 03:58 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:49 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has a new story up, behind a pay wall, on this subject.

I can't see it, bit somebody posted this recap (and opinion on Blaudschun's source) on another board:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Football at Uconn is over if they go independent. Good riddance if they do.

Why would the AAC be interested in UConn for football only?

Because we'd throw in a few basketball games for your RPI. Say, hypothetically, the AAC loses three of UH/UC/UCF/MEM, how much leverage do the remaining schools really have there? You don't think that your TV partner would rather have UConn in the mix over whoever you'd replace us with (Southern Mississippi)? I get that you all don't love our football program, but the reality is that we are a known brand in a large market and your other options frankly aren't all that attractive when you weigh this out from a TV perspective.

All of that said, I think this leak is not what it appears. I would guess that UConn is trying to leverage its position relative to ESPN. Is that a good idea, I have no idea? But I can tell you that we can no longer afford to earn less for all of our sports than we used to earn for T3 women's basketball. At a bare minimum, whatever is left of this conference needs to go towards an unbalanced compensation model to survive.

First off you are currently earning an unbalanced compensation with the exit money from old BE. Until 2020 USF,UC and UConn are making same money they had in old Big East.

Secondly basketball is NOT the moneymaker any longer if you think the league would make big money by UConn playing us 3-4 games a year you are mistaken and wouldn't budge the league RPI

(08-16-2016 03:56 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:55 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I don't see anybody allowing UCONN as a football only member , just no value in that. If UCONN goes back to the old big east I could see football dropping to FCS or dropped completely

And if you do that you basically kill any shot at Big10 or ACC

Leaving the AAC would hurt way more the it would help if they don't get the invite. I'm a basketball first guy, but I know football drives the bus.

(08-16-2016 03:16 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  Thank God.

We didn't like you anyway!!

(08-16-2016 03:56 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:49 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has a new story up, behind a pay wall, on this subject.

I can't see it, bit somebody posted this recap (and opinion on Blaudschun's source) on another board:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Football at Uconn is over if they go independent. Good riddance if they do.

Why would the AAC be interested in UConn for football only?

They wouldn't be. UCONN basketball is absolutely irreplaceable, but UCONN football is completely replaceable. UCONN football brings far less value to the league than just adding whoever and cashing the buyout check and redistributing their Big East war chest share.

Truly amazed how any AAC member concludes it can go the independent route, even UCONN. Huskies Basketball is awesome but MBB and WBB won't carry you. Need to wait it out until the ACC calls because they're UCONN's only realistic option after AAC.

I can certainly understand UConn's frustration if they get left out of this expansion but they have to believe that should the ACC expand again they would certainly be one of the top choices. I wouldn't risk that by pulling out of the AAC where you get great coverage in both sports to go to the Big East where no one would see your games and football would be irrevelant. Any extra $ they would make by being in the Big East would be negated by the exit fee. I think it would just be a knee jerk reaction especially if we only lose 1 or 2 teams.

(08-16-2016 03:58 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:49 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Mark Blaudschun has a new story up, behind a pay wall, on this subject.

I can't see it, bit somebody posted this recap (and opinion on Blaudschun's source) on another board:

If UCONN gets turned down by the Big 12, they will not maintain the status quo with the AAC according to his source (probably Mike Tranghese - his old friend, former BE Commissioner, UCONN Consultant). They will look to move all sports to BE and try for football only in the AAC, if not they will look to join another conference for football only. From a financial perspective they could make more money and save more money being part of the BE.

Football at Uconn is over if they go independent. Good riddance if they do.

Why would the AAC be interested in UConn for football only?

Because we'd throw in a few basketball games for your RPI. Say, hypothetically, the AAC loses three of UH/UC/UCF/MEM, how much leverage do the remaining schools really have there? You don't think that your TV partner would rather have UConn in the mix over whoever you'd replace us with (Southern Mississippi)? I get that you all don't love our football program, but the reality is that we are a known brand in a large market and your other options frankly aren't all that attractive when you weigh this out from a TV perspective.

All of that said, I think this leak is not what it appears. I would guess that UConn is trying to leverage its position relative to ESPN. Is that a good idea, I have no idea? But I can tell you that we can no longer afford to earn less for all of our sports than we used to earn for T3 women's basketball. At a bare minimum, whatever is left of this conference needs to go towards an unbalanced compensation model to survive.

Well if I was the ACC I would play hard ball also.....Want a football only fine you can play football only in our conference but the cost will be one basketball game every year for the next 10-20 years in both men's and women's basketball against every AAC basketball conference member. Also by the way UConn will be the visiting team in each of these games. UConn buyout will only be 1 million for each game.

(08-16-2016 03:27 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  UConn fans will go ape if we don't do something. The writing is on the wall. Our admins realize that the fans will not be able to accept being in a severely diminished AAC in terms of basketball appeal. They'll do what they have to in order to save basketball at this point. UConn has no interest in carrying an entire conference in basketball, the way Memphis used to in CUSA.

And why not? Memphis did very well nationally while the flagship basketball member of Conference USA. If I recall they were a couple missed free throws by Derrick Rose away from winning a national championship. UConn would not be affected under the new alignment just as they haven't been affected by the current AAC alignment.

(08-16-2016 04:00 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:56 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 03:55 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I don't see anybody allowing UCONN as a football only member , just no value in that. If UCONN goes back to the old big east I could see football dropping to FCS or dropped completely

And if you do that you basically kill any shot at Big10 or ACC

Leaving the AAC would hurt way more the it would help if they don't get the invite. I'm a basketball first guy, but I know football drives the bus.

It drive the bus for most schools but I don't know if that's necessarily true for UConn. The Big East could offer significantly better money for basketball (or just overall) and UConn does very well in licensing and Tier 3 rights. Of any candidate to go independent, UConn is one of the few that makes sense.

Bottom line, if your football program isn't in a P5 conference then it will be pretty much next to impossible to keep it viable financially. G5 schools are going to have to find additional sources of revenue and that includes the AAC. And if UConn did go down this road and the AAC decided to kicked them out, the MAC or CUSA would be more than happy to take them for football only.