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plug my stuff into that and you are golden


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All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.
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(07-31-2016 12:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 12:03 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I honestly don't think there is any interest in CSU from the Big 12.

I would tend to agree. In fact, I think there is little interest in going west for the Big12. If the BYU wasn't such a clear leader over all the other candidates, they would never even consider going west when so much of the population is in the east. Keep in mind, one of the Big12's major goals is to increase the population in the B12 footprint. You do that by moving east---not by moving west. BYU, with its large national faith based fandom, is very much the exception to that rule.

If the goal is to increase footprint, the fla twins are the answer
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(07-31-2016 04:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...0812d.html
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(07-31-2016 04:53 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 04:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...0812d.html

Damn, that article would leave me depressed if I were a Marshall fan lol.
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(07-31-2016 11:47 AM)nastar36 Wrote:  CSU is a non baseball school, with less than 25000 football fans playing in a 34,000 capacity stadium. There is NOTHING P5 like about them. I don't see the attraction.

I'm not a CSU fan, never been to a game, never even seen their campus. But here's a few items that may attract them to the Big 12. Colorado is king, no question both athletically and academically. However, CSU does have good academics. The Big 12 doesn't have a presence in Colorado and that is what CSU can bring. They are located just north of Denver and that is a HUGE market. Besides Market and Academics, they are also a geographical fit. CSU may not deliver the Denver market, but the Longhorn Network and/or the Big 12 network will be on the cable guides. Texas Tech can recruit a player in Denver and tell them to look at the Big 12 Network on this date and time and check us out.

Granted, CSU is not Houston or Cincinnati, but there is value. I'm not saying it's top 4 value, but there is some.

There are some serious problems with giving the Denver market to csu. Csu is something like 70 miles from Denver. It doesn't have an astronomical enrollment, doesn't have a rich football tradition, doesn't have a great average attendance, and I'm going to out on a limb and guess their ratings are great either.

It's not a travel partner for anyone in the league (BYU an 8 hour drive & Kansas state the closest current member also 8 hour drive). Let's face it, this already road trip or plane flight league anyhow. So if they're not a travel partner for anyone, what is the appeal?

CSU is really nice. Ft collins is s great college town and i can see them picking up the denver market. If you ever get a chance to visit you would be sold.
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(07-31-2016 05:04 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 04:53 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 04:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...0812d.html

Damn, that article would leave me depressed if I were a Marshall fan lol.

"Would joining the AAC really be a good move for Marshall? I don't believe so. Unless, of course, MU's fans and football program would be okay with lots of 7-5, 6-6 and 5-7 records."

Bwahahahaha. Harsh
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(07-31-2016 05:36 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
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(07-31-2016 11:47 AM)nastar36 Wrote:  CSU is a non baseball school, with less than 25000 football fans playing in a 34,000 capacity stadium. There is NOTHING P5 like about them. I don't see the attraction.

I'm not a CSU fan, never been to a game, never even seen their campus. But here's a few items that may attract them to the Big 12. Colorado is king, no question both athletically and academically. However, CSU does have good academics. The Big 12 doesn't have a presence in Colorado and that is what CSU can bring. They are located just north of Denver and that is a HUGE market. Besides Market and Academics, they are also a geographical fit. CSU may not deliver the Denver market, but the Longhorn Network and/or the Big 12 network will be on the cable guides. Texas Tech can recruit a player in Denver and tell them to look at the Big 12 Network on this date and time and check us out.

Granted, CSU is not Houston or Cincinnati, but there is value. I'm not saying it's top 4 value, but there is some.

There are some serious problems with giving the Denver market to csu. Csu is something like 70 miles from Denver. It doesn't have an astronomical enrollment, doesn't have a rich football tradition, doesn't have a great average attendance, and I'm going to out on a limb and guess their ratings are great either.

It's not a travel partner for anyone in the league (BYU an 8 hour drive & Kansas state the closest current member also 8 hour drive). Let's face it, this already road trip or plane flight league anyhow. So if they're not a travel partner for anyone, what is the appeal?

CSU is really nice. Ft collins is s great college town and i can see them picking up the denver market. If you ever get a chance to visit you would be sold.

I believe you. Colorado is gorgeous and I haven't heard anything but good things about Fort Collins, but would I put csu in front of any of the AAC schools? No way. Except maybe uconn, because like you put it, I don't see a bunch of Midwestern folks that excited to fly to Hartford in November or even the end of October.
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Chuck Landon is a douche and does all he can to drag our name through the mud. We all hate him.

He is not allowed to come to practices or anything anymore. He has literally been banned from Marshall University.

I actually hate you for tricking me into clicking that link lol. That's the first time I have given him a click in well over a year. I haven't bought a HD in almost 2 years because they continue to employ him.
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Here is the link I thought I was clicking, which is talking about the #1 Forensic Science program in the world.


http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/mars...fa2b2.html
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Here's a breakdown of the G5 as it is ranked in the 2016 USNWR for reference-


2016
The latest US News and World Report college rankings has been released. We're all aware that this ranking, like any other, has its flaws. This list is posted not to be a definitive statement about these universities but simply as a point of reference. National University rankings listed only, schools falling under Regional University rankings were marked as unranked.

AMERICAN | CUSA | MAC | MWC | SUN BELT

#018- Rice
#041- Tulane
#057- UConn
#061- SMU
#075- UMass
#082- Miami
#086- Tulsa
#099- Buffalo

#115- Temple
#127- Colorado State
#135- Ohio
#140- Cincinnati
#149- UAB
#149- San Diego State
#156- USF
#161- Hawaii
#168- Ball State
#168- UCF
#168- Idaho
#168- Wyoming
#175- Kent State
#180- New Mexico
#185- Bowling Green
#187- Houston
#187- Nevada
#187- Western Michigan
#194- Central Michigan
#194- Charlotte
#194- East Carolina
#199- La Tech
#199- New Mexico State

RNP- Memphis
RNP- Florida Atlantic
RNP- Florida International
RNP- Middle Tennessee
RNP- North Texas
RNP- Old Dominion
RNP- Southern Mississippi
RNP- UTEP
RNP- UTSA
RNP- Akron
RNP- Northern Illinois
RNP- Toledo
RNP- UNLV
RNP- Utah State
RNP- Georgia Southern
RNP- Georgia State
RNP- LA Lafayette
RNP- South Alabama

Not Ranked- Navy
Not Ranked- Marshall
Not Ranked- Western Kentucky
Not Ranked- Eastern Michigan
Not Ranked- Air Force
Not Ranked- Boise State
Not Ranked- Fresno State
Not Ranked- San Jose State
Not Ranked- Appalachian State
Not Ranked- Arkansas State
Not Ranked- Texas State
Not Ranked- Troy
Not Ranked- ULM

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(07-31-2016 05:04 PM)cbhstiger Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 04:53 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 04:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.


http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/ma...0812d.html

Damn, that article would leave me depressed if I were a Marshall fan lol.

Maybe its due to being a G5 fan, but for a dude that writes about Marshall all the time, he sure sounds like one condescending SOB.
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Once our new science building is completed, we should move on up. We have had a shortage (and subpar) facilities for some of our science programs for a long time now.

$150 million will build a hell of a facility.
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(07-31-2016 06:42 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Chuck Landon is a douche and does all he can to drag our name through the mud. We all hate him.

He is not allowed to come to practices or anything anymore. He has literally been banned from Marshall University.

I actually hate you for tricking me into clicking that link lol. That's the first time I have given him a click in well over a year. I haven't bought a HD in almost 2 years because they continue to employ him.

Lol. I am sorry about that.
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(07-31-2016 04:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.

Cool. My Aunt has the best peanut brittle in Idaho but im not advocating her for the Big12.
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(07-31-2016 11:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 04:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.

Cool. My Aunt has the best peanut brittle in Idaho but im not advocating her for the Big12.
She'd be more qualified and more competitive than Marshall... she at least doesn't use NQ crutches

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Academic smack. LOL. You get past the top schools, and it doesn't make a damn. They all are good schools. It also depends on the discipline.
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(08-01-2016 01:49 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 11:57 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(07-31-2016 04:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  All I will say is Marshall has the #1 Forensic Science program in the country for the 7th year in a row.

We also have the ONLY accredited Digital Forensic Science program in the WORLD.


I know we are not a top academic school, but this is pretty impressive for a school that is constantly getting bashed for academics.

Cool. My Aunt has the best peanut brittle in Idaho but im not advocating her for the Big12.
She'd be more qualified and more competitive than Marshall... she at least doesn't use NQ crutches

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Our Forensic Science program only admits around 35 students per year.

That's more than the amount of people who show up for an NIU game.
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Here's the deal with the USA article.....OK, we (the B12 current members) got the academics covered by getting this article out, now who plays the best football & how many TV sets can they bring? Oh and how much discount will they take to put more $$$ in our pockets?

That's the short & sweet of the selection process.
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(07-31-2016 11:42 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Its something that gets blown off by many when they discuss our potential replacement choices. Its why I have a feeling LaTech might end up in the league rather than S Miss. One is ranked in USNWR and one is not. Every AAC school other than Memphis is a ranked USMWP school. If Memphis leaves, selecting LaTech rather than S Miss would mean EVERY SINGLE AAC school would be a ranked USNWP school.

University presidents love being able to say things like that. It would also add another layer of separation between the AAC and the other G5's. No other G5 can say everyone of their schools is a USMWP top 200 school. It would be the G5 equivalent of the B1G's AAU status. That AAU thing has literally become the Big10's identity at this point (even though Nebraska is no longer AAU---they were AAU when they joined).
Will be interesting because they are not a national research university (Carnegie R3). This is where pimp and spin will come in as schools will provide the rankings that make them look best.

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