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(07-28-2016 10:47 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Why is nobody mentioning Boise State as a school the AAC would invite in the event that we lose someone from the West? Is it because they held a gun to our head in the past round of expansion?

Boise State would more than cover the void left by Houston. More people nationally recognize Boise State as a football power than they do Houston, by far.

If we lose 2... Boise State & Air Force are the FIRST invites sent out, if I'm Aresco.

If we lose 3... throw Army into the mix and say goodnight.

Would BSU be willing to take an equal revenue share?
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(07-28-2016 08:13 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:48 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:39 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:26 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  This conference is going to make peanuts after whoever is raided is raided. Can we stop pretending the AAC has anything to offer at that point?

Not if we only lose one team. I still think the B12 takes only two teams. BYU and Houston.

Even if they take 3 AAC teams we have to make the best of it. It only gets worse if you immediately go out and bring in crap from CUSA and the MAC.

The big 12 is going to 14. Anything different would be a drastically short sighted move that leaves half a billion on the table.

Im pretty certain Uconn has a contingency plan in place if the Memphis rumor is true. You can count Uconn out as well so the conference will likely need 4 or possibly 5 if temple leaves as well.

Yup...add a plus 1 for teams lost if UCONN doesn't get one of those 4 (rumored) Big 12 tickets.

Well maybe to keep UConn happy expand with schools in their backyard.

Army does two things....its close to UConn and Temple but it also keeps SMU, Tulane and Tulsa happy by adding another private school to the conference.
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(07-28-2016 08:29 PM)Wavetime Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 10:47 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Why is nobody mentioning Boise State as a school the AAC would invite in the event that we lose someone from the West? Is it because they held a gun to our head in the past round of expansion?

Boise State would more than cover the void left by Houston. More people nationally recognize Boise State as a football power than they do Houston, by far.

If we lose 2... Boise State & Air Force are the FIRST invites sent out, if I'm Aresco.

If we lose 3... throw Army into the mix and say goodnight.

Would BSU be willing to take an equal revenue share?

I think that depends on what they can be told is coming on that next TV negotiation.

One thing is for sure, BSU is never coming to this conference with an unequal revenue share. They proved already that they aren't worth that.
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(07-28-2016 09:13 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 08:13 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:48 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:39 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:26 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  This conference is going to make peanuts after whoever is raided is raided. Can we stop pretending the AAC has anything to offer at that point?

Not if we only lose one team. I still think the B12 takes only two teams. BYU and Houston.

Even if they take 3 AAC teams we have to make the best of it. It only gets worse if you immediately go out and bring in crap from CUSA and the MAC.

The big 12 is going to 14. Anything different would be a drastically short sighted move that leaves half a billion on the table.

Im pretty certain Uconn has a contingency plan in place if the Memphis rumor is true. You can count Uconn out as well so the conference will likely need 4 or possibly 5 if temple leaves as well.

Yup...add a plus 1 for teams lost if UCONN doesn't get one of those 4 (rumored) Big 12 tickets.

Well maybe to keep UConn happy expand with schools in their backyard.

Army does two things....its close to UConn and Temple but it also keeps SMU, Tulane and Tulsa happy by adding another private school to the conference.

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(07-28-2016 09:23 PM)acc4life Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 09:13 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 08:13 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:48 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:39 PM)First Mate Wrote:  Not if we only lose one team. I still think the B12 takes only two teams. BYU and Houston.

Even if they take 3 AAC teams we have to make the best of it. It only gets worse if you immediately go out and bring in crap from CUSA and the MAC.

The big 12 is going to 14. Anything different would be a drastically short sighted move that leaves half a billion on the table.

Im pretty certain Uconn has a contingency plan in place if the Memphis rumor is true. You can count Uconn out as well so the conference will likely need 4 or possibly 5 if temple leaves as well.

Yup...add a plus 1 for teams lost if UCONN doesn't get one of those 4 (rumored) Big 12 tickets.

Well maybe to keep UConn happy expand with schools in their backyard.

Army does two things....its close to UConn and Temple but it also keeps SMU, Tulane and Tulsa happy by adding another private school to the conference.

true

Army and UMass do nothing for UCONN. We'd rather be associated with competent athletic programs across the country. An AAC/MWC merger would be the only way to save UCONN under the above scenario.
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Thread using hallucinogenics...cool

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Just yesterday they were a junior college and their famed coach has left them. Not sure they offer anything without Petersen
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(07-28-2016 09:25 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 09:23 PM)acc4life Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 09:13 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 08:13 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 07:48 PM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  The big 12 is going to 14. Anything different would be a drastically short sighted move that leaves half a billion on the table.

Im pretty certain Uconn has a contingency plan in place if the Memphis rumor is true. You can count Uconn out as well so the conference will likely need 4 or possibly 5 if temple leaves as well.

Yup...add a plus 1 for teams lost if UCONN doesn't get one of those 4 (rumored) Big 12 tickets.

Well maybe to keep UConn happy expand with schools in their backyard.

Army does two things....its close to UConn and Temple but it also keeps SMU, Tulane and Tulsa happy by adding another private school to the conference.

true

Army and UMass do nothing for UCONN. We'd rather be associated with competent athletic programs across the country. An AAC/MWC merger would be the only way to save UCONN under the above scenario.

Why would MWC programs jump to the AAC?

1) The MWC just straightened out the bonus pool money, an issue for many of the schools in the conference.

2) With the AAC damaged, the MWC becomes the 6th best conference.

3) They are planning to add UTEP and Rice so what is the point of joining SMU and Tulsa in the AAC?

I just don't see Colorado St, New Mexico and Utah State bringing more to the AAC than a few members they can find in the East.

Maybe the AAC will have to resort to Wichita State to find a replacement for Memphis basketball. NIU football could make a nice offering in the west division.
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(07-28-2016 10:47 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Why is nobody mentioning Boise State as a school the AAC would invite in the event that we lose someone from the West? Is it because they held a gun to our head in the past round of expansion?

Boise State would more than cover the void left by Houston. More people nationally recognize Boise State as a football power than they do Houston, by far.

If we lose 2... Boise State & Air Force are the FIRST invites sent out, if I'm Aresco.

If we lose 3... throw Army into the mix and say goodnight.

Because Idaho is a small population state in a small population region that is a long way from everything in the Big XII.
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Every current P5 member is USNWR Tier 1
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(07-29-2016 10:49 AM)panama Wrote:  Every current P5 member is USNWR Tier 1

Every AAC school, if I'm not mistaken, is USNWR Top 200
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(07-29-2016 10:53 AM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  
(07-29-2016 10:49 AM)panama Wrote:  Every current P5 member is USNWR Tier 1

Every AAC school, if I'm not mistaken, is USNWR Top 200
Top 200 is Tier 1. And every AAC school is not. But there are enough to form the semblance of the next P6. The idea is to balance the academic side and still find the next Memphis or Houston in realignment.
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(07-28-2016 09:25 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Army and UMass do nothing for UCONN. We'd rather be associated with competent athletic programs across the country. An AAC/MWC merger would be the only way to save UCONN under the above scenario.

I agree. With teams leaving, we can find football replacements. What will be challenging is to find basketball teams that can compete on Connecticut's historical level.
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(07-29-2016 10:58 AM)chess Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 09:25 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Army and UMass do nothing for UCONN. We'd rather be associated with competent athletic programs across the country. An AAC/MWC merger would be the only way to save UCONN under the above scenario.

I agree. With teams leaving, we can find football replacements. What will be challenging is to find basketball teams that can compete on Connecticut's historical level.

There are none. There are no perennial Final Four teams sitting around and nobody is leaving the Atlantic 10 or Big East. You just need to make sure the AAC remains a multi bid league.
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(07-29-2016 11:01 AM)panama Wrote:  
(07-29-2016 10:58 AM)chess Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 09:25 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Army and UMass do nothing for UCONN. We'd rather be associated with competent athletic programs across the country. An AAC/MWC merger would be the only way to save UCONN under the above scenario.

I agree. With teams leaving, we can find football replacements. What will be challenging is to find basketball teams that can compete on Connecticut's historical level.

There are none. There are no perennial Final Four teams sitting around and nobody is leaving the Atlantic 10 or Big East. You just need to make sure the AAC remains a multi bid league.

Wichita State is the best bet of teams that would probably move to the AAC. YOu guys are tripping talking about about VCU, they don't want any part of this league.
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(07-29-2016 11:04 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-29-2016 11:01 AM)panama Wrote:  
(07-29-2016 10:58 AM)chess Wrote:  
(07-28-2016 09:25 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Army and UMass do nothing for UCONN. We'd rather be associated with competent athletic programs across the country. An AAC/MWC merger would be the only way to save UCONN under the above scenario.

I agree. With teams leaving, we can find football replacements. What will be challenging is to find basketball teams that can compete on Connecticut's historical level.

There are none. There are no perennial Final Four teams sitting around and nobody is leaving the Atlantic 10 or Big East. You just need to make sure the AAC remains a multi bid league.

Wichita State is the best bet of teams that would probably move to the AAC. YOu guys are tripping talking about about VCU, they don't want any part of this league.
Really the only Olympic Sports invite option. And do you really want to go back to a hybrid league?
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If Houston, Memphis and UC leave, there really is no reason for any MWC team to leave. Frankly, there is little reason for the AAC to stay together given the huge geographical gap between the schools. The tv contract will take a nose dive and the travel costs will be significant. You have SMU, Tulsa and Tulane in one part of the country, UCF and USF by themselves in Florida and UConn, Temple, ECU and Navy on the east coast. It would make sense for SMU, Tulsa and Tulane to pair with UTEP, New Mexico State, Rice and UAB to form a more regional conference. Alternatively, SMU and Tulsa might be attractive to the MWC and Tulane can drop back to CUSA. The east coast and maybe the Florida schools could add UMass, Buffalo, Army, and maybe an Akron, Toledo, ODU or Ohio to form a more east based conference. Alternatively, maybe Navy, UMass, Army, UConn, and Temple can find three more teams to form a football only conference, freeing up Temple and UConn to approach the A-10.
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(07-29-2016 11:19 AM)MU88 Wrote:  If Houston, Memphis and UC leave, there really is no reason for any MWC team to leave. Frankly, there is little reason for the AAC to stay together given the huge geographical gap between the schools. The tv contract will take a nose dive and the travel costs will be significant. You have SMU, Tulsa and Tulane in one part of the country, UCF and USF by themselves in Florida and UConn, Temple, ECU and Navy on the east coast. It would make sense for SMU, Tulsa and Tulane to pair with UTEP, New Mexico State, Rice and UAB to form a more regional conference. Alternatively, SMU and Tulsa might be attractive to the MWC and Tulane can drop back to CUSA. The east coast and maybe the Florida schools could add UMass, Buffalo, Army, and maybe an Akron, Toledo, ODU or Ohio to form a more east based conference. Alternatively, maybe Navy, UMass, Army, UConn, and Temple can find three more teams to form a football only conference, freeing up Temple and UConn to approach the A-10.

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