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For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
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For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Back down to 11 football members and 10 for hoops and only 7 for baseball.

My scenario to rebuild

Add Army FB Only
Add Wichita State for Olympic sports
Add VCU for Olympic sports

If we lose 2 members, then take ODU or Southern Miss to replace the 2nd member.
07-22-2016 07:08 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
If we loose just Houston we will be okay
07-22-2016 07:13 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
What would be the odds of Air Force coming on too for football? Would be nice to have all the service academies. Could still add VCU/WSU as Olympic only. Both VCU and WSU would strengthen bball and baseball.
07-22-2016 07:24 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Add nobody. Boot Tulsa.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 07:13 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  If we loose just Houston we will be okay

the eastern division might say that, but there isnt any history of winning by anyone in the west other than navy and thats 7 wins a year and tulsa

you'll be fine if a west team steps up or it could end up like the mwc west division and drag the leagues perception

and replacing us with army will be questionable ..tulane needs texas recruits, tulsa needs texas recruits, they might lobby for another texas
and i can see smu lobbying for rice
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 07:08 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Back down to 11 football members and 10 for hoops and only 7 for baseball.

My scenario to rebuild

Add Army FB Only
Add Wichita State for Olympic sports
Add VCU for Olympic sports

I'd be down with this. 12/12, strengthens basketball, brings Army-Navy game fully into TV deal.
07-22-2016 07:33 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
If, the American just looses Houston, hi is what I think you should do:

East
Connecticut
Temple
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida

West
Cincinnati
Memphis
Southern Miss
Tulane
Tulsa
SMU
Colorado State
Boise
07-22-2016 07:41 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Im just glad the Big 12 is taking the two best programs and isnt settling on some spare 6-6 Football program.
07-22-2016 07:42 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
add Rice

UC fans need to experience Autry Court first hand.
07-22-2016 07:44 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 07:08 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Back down to 11 football members and 10 for hoops and only 7 for baseball.

My scenario to rebuild

Add Army FB Only
Add Wichita State for Olympic sports
Add VCU for Olympic sports

If we lose 2 members, then take ODU or Southern Miss to replace the 2nd member.

I'd be down with that. But maybe swap Air Force for Army?

Wichita and VCU would be great adds for Olympic sports.

Losing just Houston or one AAC is fine with me.
07-22-2016 07:50 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Lose* folks, lose. Loose means slack.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
I don't think VCU would jump. Even if you just lost Houston there's no guarantee that the other BB powers in the conference wouldn't leave the following year and without Memphis, Cinci & UCONN the A10 is the better league. Not to mention they'd be a basketball only school in a football league, not exactly ideal.

Wichita St probably would and would be a good add. They might want to bring in a FB program though.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 07:41 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  If, the American just looses Houston, hi is what I think you should do:

East
Connecticut
Temple
Marshall
Navy
Old Dominion
East Carolina
Central Florida
South Florida

West
Cincinnati
Memphis
Southern Miss
Tulane
Tulsa
SMU
Colorado State
Boise

You never had any credibility in my mind to start with but Marshall? What a joke
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 07:08 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Back down to 11 football members and 10 for hoops and only 7 for baseball.

My scenario to rebuild

Add Army FB Only
Add Wichita State for Olympic sports
Add VCU for Olympic sports

If we lose 2 members, then take ODU or Southern Miss to replace the 2nd member.

Agree. Smart strategy and I don't think our TV prospects would take a hit in that scenario.
07-22-2016 08:37 AM
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
No! We should try to rebuild the western wing with SDSU ,Airforce, and Fresno. Explain to them how we are setup to get the ACC's old time slots and that we have equal distribution. If we only loses Houston then that move would cement us as the best g5 or tweener, plus actually improve bball with SDSU.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
If we only lose Houston we would have dodged a bullet. The increase in content would fit in nicely if a new contract with new and better time slots plus our old ones could still lead to a significant boost in pay
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 09:06 AM)Tigersmoke3 Wrote:  No! We should try to rebuild the western wing with SDSU ,Airforce, and Fresno. Explain to them how we are setup to get the ACC's old time slots and that we have equal distribution. If we only loses Houston then that move would cement us as the best g5 or tweener, plus actually improve bball with SDSU.

That far flung coast to coast only makes sense if the networks want to fork over at least $6 million per year.

If we keep Cincinnati, Memphis, and Uconn it makes for an appealing basketball core for Wichita State and VCU. We would actually be more powerful post raid on the hoops side. On the football side, we are always going to be considered under the p5 so might as well just add the teams that offer most tv value...aka Army in the AAC footprint.
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Re: RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 07:08 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Back down to 11 football members and 10 for hoops and only 7 for baseball.

My scenario to rebuild

Add Army FB Only
Add Wichita State for Olympic sports
Add VCU for Olympic sports

If we lose 2 members, then take ODU or Southern Miss to replace the 2nd member.

What is with wanting ODU. A startup in a place no one will visit with zero tradition. Good grief. Rather add Coastal, at least its near myrtle beach
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 08:10 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Lose* folks, lose. Loose means slack.

Thank you, I was about to 01-lauramac2
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Even with just the loss of Houston, we'll be damaged goods in the eyes of potential MW candidates. We'd have to show them the $$ to even get a look.

I like Rice to replace Houston. I like adding Wichita and VCU, if they're willing. If we lose more than Houston, then I think UAB should be considered.

Army for football, of course, if they're willing.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that the Big 12, as a P-5 conference, is doomed anyway. Indeed, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane and Memphis may find themselves in that conference eventually. To quote Rodney Dangerfield, "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me."
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