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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 12:35 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:28 PM)panama Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:21 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:19 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 09:58 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  Add Rice!

No more small private schools. No growth

http://oir.rice.edu/factbook/alumni/geog...ed_states/

50,879 living alumni in the US.

Game Set Match.........

....yeah that isnt much

(07-22-2016 12:21 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:19 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 09:58 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  Add Rice!

No more small private schools. No growth

http://oir.rice.edu/factbook/alumni/geog...ed_states/

50,879 living alumni in the US.

Game Set Match.........
NIU literally has 4 times (almost 5 times) that

http://northernnow.com/taking-the-reins-...n-frazier/

"across campus, in the local community, and in the Chicagoland area with our
225,000 living alums—is key for NIU athletics


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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 04:15 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  You can only expect a Coog to know how to count so high...

personally coming to another schools forum that has nothing to do with yours to trash talk them... sweet, you are winning at life
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Air Force isn't coming without CSU and Wyoming. They'd be in the AAC already if they had interest.
Army would be in the AAC already if they had interest. (Potentially) losing Houston doesn't change that.

If the AAC has 11 after a defection we have the same leverage the Big 12 has, except instead of leveraging cold hard cash, we leverage self investment.

Open the bidding floodgates and let programs pitch a presentation that guarantees increased budget, dedication to increased performance, and a 10 year plan to infrastructure upgrade.

If one of NIU / UMass / USM / ODU / other can convince the presidents that they will make the same improvements that teams like UCF, SMU, Memphis, Temple, and Houston have all made, you pick that program. There's no point in pre-picking.


The only sure thing we MUST do is get Wichita State in for at least basketball. Hell, give them an all sports invite if they can prove they'll be in a packed 40k stadium by 2025
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 04:15 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:21 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:19 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  No more small private schools. No growth

http://oir.rice.edu/factbook/alumni/geog...ed_states/

50,879 living alumni in the US.

Game Set Match.........

You can only expect a Coog to know how to count so high...

Hey facts are facts that info is straight off your schools website.

You couldn't fill Rice stadium if every living alumni came to a game.

Yes yes before you go there we have 250k plus in the area and haven't filled TDECU on a regular basis yet but we could that is the difference.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
This is selfish. . but IF UH goes.. I want rice in so I still can see AAC teams in person semi regularly.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Some have said only add if they ADD. Why would you do anything else? Why add to dilute the $$? Doesn't make any sense. If a school or some schools ADD to the AAC revenues, by all means move ahead but I'm guessing few if any will.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 05:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Some have said only add if they ADD. Why would you do anything else? Why add to dilute the $$? Doesn't make any sense. If a school or some schools ADD to the AAC revenues, by all means move ahead but I'm guessing few if any will.

Down to 7 baseball schools losing just 1 member. Down to only 10 hoops schools. We will need to add regardless.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 12:21 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:19 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 09:58 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  Add Rice!

No more small private schools. No growth

http://oir.rice.edu/factbook/alumni/geog...ed_states/

50,879 living alumni in the US.

Game Set Match.........

You must be joking. Rice is a joke. Great school but not for sports. Empty stadiums we don't need.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Rice would just take food from the table.
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For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Rice recruits nationally and adding them would ensure schools don't lose a recruiting trip to Houston. They just finished a $60M renovation/facility addition to their stadium and have only just started in their master plan for the stadium (which itself is in an awesome location). Rice is a natural rival for SMU and Tulane. Academic prestige for the conference is very important. I don't see the point of losing Houston and going east for another school.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 05:01 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Air Force isn't coming without CSU and Wyoming. They'd be in the AAC already if they had interest.
Army would be in the AAC already if they had interest. (Potentially) losing Houston doesn't change that.

If the AAC has 11 after a defection we have the same leverage the Big 12 has, except instead of leveraging cold hard cash, we leverage self investment.

Open the bidding floodgates and let programs pitch a presentation that guarantees increased budget, dedication to increased performance, and a 10 year plan to infrastructure upgrade.

If one of NIU / UMass / USM / ODU / other can convince the presidents that they will make the same improvements that teams like UCF, SMU, Memphis, Temple, and Houston have all made, you pick that program. There's no point in pre-picking.


The only sure thing we MUST do is get Wichita State in for at least basketball. Hell, give them an all sports invite if they can prove they'll be in a packed 40k stadium by 2025
NIU already has made that commitment

http://niuhuskies.com/news/2014/10/30/Fr..._Plan.aspx

For just the renovations to Huskie Stadium
http://m.northernstar.info/sports/niu-s-...l?mode=jqm

We'll be at just under 35k capacity and massive renovations plus a horseshoe stadium


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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 06:29 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  Rice recruits nationally and adding them would ensure schools don't lose a recruiting trip to Houston. They just finished a $60M renovation/facility addition to their stadium and have only just started in their master plan for the stadium (which itself is in an awesome location). Rice is a natural rival for SMU and Tulane. Academic prestige for the conference is very important. I don't see the point of losing Houston and going east for another school.

Rice is not an option. We need teams with fans. They have none. Every time ECU played them in CUSA there were maybe 5k ppl at the games. A complete embarrassment. How does that look on TV? Terrible. See UAB.

Great academics but this is a sports league. Losing only UH will not hurt the league bad enough to prompt us to go get Rice. That would be a desperate move.
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
(07-22-2016 06:37 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:29 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  Rice recruits nationally and adding them would ensure schools don't lose a recruiting trip to Houston. They just finished a $60M renovation/facility addition to their stadium and have only just started in their master plan for the stadium (which itself is in an awesome location). Rice is a natural rival for SMU and Tulane. Academic prestige for the conference is very important. I don't see the point of losing Houston and going east for another school.

Rice is not an option. We need teams with fans. They have none. Every time ECU played them in CUSA there were maybe 5k ppl at the games. A complete embarrassment. How does that look on TV? Terrible. See UAB.

Great academics but this is a sports league. Losing only UH will not hurt the league bad enough to prompt us to go get Rice. That would be a desperate move.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that ECU was such a strong rivalry everyone was dying to see?

In all seriousness, I think the issue that the AAC is about to have is the same one C-USA had when rebuilding membership after the first round of AAC poaching. Teams want to have some reasonableness in travel, for players and fans, and regionalism in teams. In rebuilding, UTEP and Rice were keen on UTSA, Rice and USM were high on La Tech, USM and UAB wanted MTSU, Marshall and ECU wanted ODU and Charlotte, and everyone east of Louisiana wanted a team in Florida for recruiting. Whatever may be left of the AAC will have similar issues.
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(07-22-2016 07:17 PM)WTXOwl Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:37 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:29 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  Rice recruits nationally and adding them would ensure schools don't lose a recruiting trip to Houston. They just finished a $60M renovation/facility addition to their stadium and have only just started in their master plan for the stadium (which itself is in an awesome location). Rice is a natural rival for SMU and Tulane. Academic prestige for the conference is very important. I don't see the point of losing Houston and going east for another school.

Rice is not an option. We need teams with fans. They have none. Every time ECU played them in CUSA there were maybe 5k ppl at the games. A complete embarrassment. How does that look on TV? Terrible. See UAB.

Great academics but this is a sports league. Losing only UH will not hurt the league bad enough to prompt us to go get Rice. That would be a desperate move.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that ECU was such a strong rivalry everyone was dying to see?

In all seriousness, I think the issue that the AAC is about to have is the same one C-USA had when rebuilding membership after the first round of AAC poaching. Teams want to have some reasonableness in travel, for players and fans, and regionalism in teams. In rebuilding, UTEP and Rice were keen on UTSA, Rice and USM were high on La Tech, USM and UAB wanted MTSU, Marshall and ECU wanted ODU and Charlotte, and everyone east of Louisiana wanted a team in Florida for recruiting. Whatever may be left of the AAC will have similar issues.

Rice didn't draw for any teams. ECU was just an example. And by the way ECU put 40-50k in the stands for Rice, UAB, and the rest of the CUSA bottom feeders.

ECU never "wants" to be in a league w ODU and Charlotte again if we can avoid it.

The AAC will be just fine wo Rice and all their fans.
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For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
The Rice chancellor mocked us for leaving. Doubt that has been forgotten
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(07-22-2016 06:00 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:21 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:19 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 09:58 AM)akhosrof Wrote:  Add Rice!

No more small private schools. No growth

http://oir.rice.edu/factbook/alumni/geog...ed_states/

50,879 living alumni in the US.

Game Set Match.........

You must be joking. Rice is a joke. Great school but not for sports. Empty stadiums we don't need.

Ok....... You clearly didn't get the intent. That was not a pro Rice post.....
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RE: For giggles let's say Houston and BYU to the Big 12 in 2018
Add Army for football only.
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(07-22-2016 07:41 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 07:17 PM)WTXOwl Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:37 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:29 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  Rice recruits nationally and adding them would ensure schools don't lose a recruiting trip to Houston. They just finished a $60M renovation/facility addition to their stadium and have only just started in their master plan for the stadium (which itself is in an awesome location). Rice is a natural rival for SMU and Tulane. Academic prestige for the conference is very important. I don't see the point of losing Houston and going east for another school.

Rice is not an option. We need teams with fans. They have none. Every time ECU played them in CUSA there were maybe 5k ppl at the games. A complete embarrassment. How does that look on TV? Terrible. See UAB.

Great academics but this is a sports league. Losing only UH will not hurt the league bad enough to prompt us to go get Rice. That would be a desperate move.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that ECU was such a strong rivalry everyone was dying to see?

In all seriousness, I think the issue that the AAC is about to have is the same one C-USA had when rebuilding membership after the first round of AAC poaching. Teams want to have some reasonableness in travel, for players and fans, and regionalism in teams. In rebuilding, UTEP and Rice were keen on UTSA, Rice and USM were high on La Tech, USM and UAB wanted MTSU, Marshall and ECU wanted ODU and Charlotte, and everyone east of Louisiana wanted a team in Florida for recruiting. Whatever may be left of the AAC will have similar issues.

Rice didn't draw for any teams. ECU was just an example. And by the way ECU put 40-50k in the stands for Rice, UAB, and the rest of the CUSA bottom feeders.

ECU never "wants" to be in a league w ODU and Charlotte again if we can avoid it.

The AAC will be just fine wo Rice and all their fans.

Why would ECU not wish to be in a conference with Charlotte and Old Dominion? The ACC is built on bus games. It would be awesome.
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(07-22-2016 08:57 PM)chess Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 07:41 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 07:17 PM)WTXOwl Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:37 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:29 PM)akhosrof Wrote:  Rice recruits nationally and adding them would ensure schools don't lose a recruiting trip to Houston. They just finished a $60M renovation/facility addition to their stadium and have only just started in their master plan for the stadium (which itself is in an awesome location). Rice is a natural rival for SMU and Tulane. Academic prestige for the conference is very important. I don't see the point of losing Houston and going east for another school.

Rice is not an option. We need teams with fans. They have none. Every time ECU played them in CUSA there were maybe 5k ppl at the games. A complete embarrassment. How does that look on TV? Terrible. See UAB.

Great academics but this is a sports league. Losing only UH will not hurt the league bad enough to prompt us to go get Rice. That would be a desperate move.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that ECU was such a strong rivalry everyone was dying to see?

In all seriousness, I think the issue that the AAC is about to have is the same one C-USA had when rebuilding membership after the first round of AAC poaching. Teams want to have some reasonableness in travel, for players and fans, and regionalism in teams. In rebuilding, UTEP and Rice were keen on UTSA, Rice and USM were high on La Tech, USM and UAB wanted MTSU, Marshall and ECU wanted ODU and Charlotte, and everyone east of Louisiana wanted a team in Florida for recruiting. Whatever may be left of the AAC will have similar issues.

Rice didn't draw for any teams. ECU was just an example. And by the way ECU put 40-50k in the stands for Rice, UAB, and the rest of the CUSA bottom feeders.

ECU never "wants" to be in a league w ODU and Charlotte again if we can avoid it.

The AAC will be just fine wo Rice and all their fans.

Why would ECU not wish to be in a conference with Charlotte and Old Dominion? The ACC is built on bus games. It would be awesome.

With that thought process we might as well go with Furman, Troy, insert team no one wants to watch us play. Charlotte and ODU are our 4th OCC game teams.
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(07-22-2016 09:25 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 08:57 PM)chess Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 07:41 PM)First Mate Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 07:17 PM)WTXOwl Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:37 PM)First Mate Wrote:  Rice is not an option. We need teams with fans. They have none. Every time ECU played them in CUSA there were maybe 5k ppl at the games. A complete embarrassment. How does that look on TV? Terrible. See UAB.

Great academics but this is a sports league. Losing only UH will not hurt the league bad enough to prompt us to go get Rice. That would be a desperate move.

I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that ECU was such a strong rivalry everyone was dying to see?

In all seriousness, I think the issue that the AAC is about to have is the same one C-USA had when rebuilding membership after the first round of AAC poaching. Teams want to have some reasonableness in travel, for players and fans, and regionalism in teams. In rebuilding, UTEP and Rice were keen on UTSA, Rice and USM were high on La Tech, USM and UAB wanted MTSU, Marshall and ECU wanted ODU and Charlotte, and everyone east of Louisiana wanted a team in Florida for recruiting. Whatever may be left of the AAC will have similar issues.

Rice didn't draw for any teams. ECU was just an example. And by the way ECU put 40-50k in the stands for Rice, UAB, and the rest of the CUSA bottom feeders.

ECU never "wants" to be in a league w ODU and Charlotte again if we can avoid it.

The AAC will be just fine wo Rice and all their fans.

Why would ECU not wish to be in a conference with Charlotte and Old Dominion? The ACC is built on bus games. It would be awesome.

With that thought process we might as well go with Furman, Troy, insert team no one wants to watch us play. Charlotte and ODU are our 4th OCC game teams.

Old Dominion is building a fan base. Playing at ODU will have a larger crowd than playing at Tulane or our past conference games at UAB, FIU, and FAU.

We don't know what teams are leaving. ECU will have to choose her best options when presented. ODU may be important to Navy and ECU.
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