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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
The only realignment to come is realignment within the Group of 5, if that. If every team gets into a big boy conference then those big boy conferences cease to be big boy conferences.

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So, what happens if Marshall wanted to go back to the Mid-Ameri...

Oh, Marshall's shiny new 2016 CUSA schedule is out now...

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Marshall needs to stay where it is for now, and wait n see what happens over the next 3 to 5 years.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-22-2016 05:29 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 08:31 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 06:00 AM)RedParallax Wrote:  
(06-20-2016 06:26 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(06-20-2016 06:08 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  See this is what frustrates me about our local writers publishing crap like this.

I have not heard a SINGLE Marshall fan advocate for moving back to the MAC. Are we frustrated with some of the things in CUSA? Absolutely. Would any of us like to leave CUSA for the MAC? Absolutely not.

This TV deal is good for the MAC. They do not have large fan bases and they most likely never will. So if no one is going to show up anyways, might as well play on Tues/Weds for the money and exposure. Smart move by them. We have a solid G5 fan base at Marshall. Whatever we got in TV money would be lost at the gate on Tues/Weds nights instead of Saturday night games.

EDIT: Sorry, I had to come back and add more.

Huntington and the surrounding areas have a culture that is more aligned with the south as opposed to the midwest. Most of our alumni also move south upon graduation. So playing in CUSA gives us the opportunity to play closer to our alumni as opposed to playing in the midwestern towns of the MAC.

Same reason Ohio University right up the road would never join CUSA. They definitely align more with the midwest. Most of their alumni are in those areas.

We get that too, though not as much from the reporters as short-sighted fans and willfully ignorant observers who think that ODU would have been better off staying in the CAA and FCS. There's basically no benefit to staying FCS, and all those rivalries that people miss in basketball can be taken care of in non-conference scheduling (this season alone there's at least six games against former CAA opponents). I don't think anyone, short of the faculty senate types who I'm guessing would disband the entire AD, thinks that ODU is better off in the CAA. It's kind of hard to get excited about Maine and Albany coming in when N.C. State and Marshall have already appeared.

Give it time for those fans to shut up about preferring to have stuck in FCS. That B.S. will die down with FBS level success that ODU will inevitably have. Marshall had those same folks in the late 90's and early 2000's after we moved up to FBS, even when we were beating teams like South Carolina, Clemson, and Kansas State while dominating the MAC. Every fan base has fools.

Nearly every time ODU sports/football/basketball posts something there is somone clamoring for the CAA. I miss the CAA days, but now that VCU, George Mason, and Georgia State are gone, there is no way I would want back in. We got football at a time where the CAA was one of the most dominant conferences in 1-AA (back when they called it that), but it isn't the same anymore. Sure, playing JMU in football would be nice but then what, Elon? Albany? Yeah right. I'll be fine with playing Conference USA schools in football AND basketball, there is no comparison. And we play 15 ACC school in the next 10 years, including one year that we play both UVA and Virginia Tech in the same OOC. That wouldn't happen if we were in the CAA

Hold up, I'm with you on VCU and probably Mason, but you wouldn't want to go back to the CAA because Georgia State is gone? The team in Atlanta that no one in Atlanta knows plays there? Averaging 500 in seats (not tickets sold) for basketball games when we played them there?

I personally thought adding Georgia State and Northeastern was the worst move made by the CAA, expanding a mid major league from Boston to Atlanta with teams that no one in their market cares about for the sake of getting the media market.


GSU is far down on that list. I only mentioned them because they have left, and their basketball team has had some success since leaving the CAA (They have one more NCAA berth and win than ODU does since we let the CAA). When I think of the CAA days, I think of the VCU basketball games and the JMU football games. The basketball tournaments were also some of my fondest memories of ODU basketball, it's the one thing that trumps CUSA. However, now with how the CAA is, I don't want anything to do with that conference and am perfectly fine in CUSA, unless of course we have the opportunity to move up (which anyone else would take)
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-23-2016 03:47 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 05:29 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 08:31 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 06:00 AM)RedParallax Wrote:  
(06-20-2016 06:26 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  We get that too, though not as much from the reporters as short-sighted fans and willfully ignorant observers who think that ODU would have been better off staying in the CAA and FCS. There's basically no benefit to staying FCS, and all those rivalries that people miss in basketball can be taken care of in non-conference scheduling (this season alone there's at least six games against former CAA opponents). I don't think anyone, short of the faculty senate types who I'm guessing would disband the entire AD, thinks that ODU is better off in the CAA. It's kind of hard to get excited about Maine and Albany coming in when N.C. State and Marshall have already appeared.

Give it time for those fans to shut up about preferring to have stuck in FCS. That B.S. will die down with FBS level success that ODU will inevitably have. Marshall had those same folks in the late 90's and early 2000's after we moved up to FBS, even when we were beating teams like South Carolina, Clemson, and Kansas State while dominating the MAC. Every fan base has fools.

Nearly every time ODU sports/football/basketball posts something there is somone clamoring for the CAA. I miss the CAA days, but now that VCU, George Mason, and Georgia State are gone, there is no way I would want back in. We got football at a time where the CAA was one of the most dominant conferences in 1-AA (back when they called it that), but it isn't the same anymore. Sure, playing JMU in football would be nice but then what, Elon? Albany? Yeah right. I'll be fine with playing Conference USA schools in football AND basketball, there is no comparison. And we play 15 ACC school in the next 10 years, including one year that we play both UVA and Virginia Tech in the same OOC. That wouldn't happen if we were in the CAA

Hold up, I'm with you on VCU and probably Mason, but you wouldn't want to go back to the CAA because Georgia State is gone? The team in Atlanta that no one in Atlanta knows plays there? Averaging 500 in seats (not tickets sold) for basketball games when we played them there?

I personally thought adding Georgia State and Northeastern was the worst move made by the CAA, expanding a mid major league from Boston to Atlanta with teams that no one in their market cares about for the sake of getting the media market.


GSU is far down on that list. I only mentioned them because they have left, and their basketball team has had some success since leaving the CAA (They have one more NCAA berth and win than ODU does since we let the CAA). When I think of the CAA days, I think of the VCU basketball games and the JMU football games. The basketball tournaments were also some of my fondest memories of ODU basketball, it's the one thing that trumps CUSA. However, now with how the CAA is, I don't want anything to do with that conference and am perfectly fine in CUSA, unless of course we have the opportunity to move up (which anyone else would take)

Well VCU didn't have a football program to worry about, ODU does and needed to put it in the best position it could. GSU, correct me if I am wrong, but they severely sucked at both sports when you were in the CAA. James Madison just flat out screwed the pooch turning down a sunbelt invite. I mean if CUSA (this is what they held out for I think) isn't in the cards for that time, and you still wanted to be FBS, sunbelt would have been a good starting point and build the program up more to make it more attractive later one. Short sighted deal for them. I understand they made a lot of renovations to their stadium to bring it up to FBS level, but playing poker with FBS inclusion was stupid. Richmond was already gone to A10, GMU was on its way with VCU, so all you would have had left was JMU and Delaware as far as football goes and nothing but the suck train with basketball.

ODU made the right move for the WHOLE athletic program if you consider all the factors.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-24-2016 08:22 AM)herdinva Wrote:  
(06-23-2016 03:47 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 05:29 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 08:31 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 06:00 AM)RedParallax Wrote:  Give it time for those fans to shut up about preferring to have stuck in FCS. That B.S. will die down with FBS level success that ODU will inevitably have. Marshall had those same folks in the late 90's and early 2000's after we moved up to FBS, even when we were beating teams like South Carolina, Clemson, and Kansas State while dominating the MAC. Every fan base has fools.

Nearly every time ODU sports/football/basketball posts something there is somone clamoring for the CAA. I miss the CAA days, but now that VCU, George Mason, and Georgia State are gone, there is no way I would want back in. We got football at a time where the CAA was one of the most dominant conferences in 1-AA (back when they called it that), but it isn't the same anymore. Sure, playing JMU in football would be nice but then what, Elon? Albany? Yeah right. I'll be fine with playing Conference USA schools in football AND basketball, there is no comparison. And we play 15 ACC school in the next 10 years, including one year that we play both UVA and Virginia Tech in the same OOC. That wouldn't happen if we were in the CAA

Hold up, I'm with you on VCU and probably Mason, but you wouldn't want to go back to the CAA because Georgia State is gone? The team in Atlanta that no one in Atlanta knows plays there? Averaging 500 in seats (not tickets sold) for basketball games when we played them there?

I personally thought adding Georgia State and Northeastern was the worst move made by the CAA, expanding a mid major league from Boston to Atlanta with teams that no one in their market cares about for the sake of getting the media market.


GSU is far down on that list. I only mentioned them because they have left, and their basketball team has had some success since leaving the CAA (They have one more NCAA berth and win than ODU does since we let the CAA). When I think of the CAA days, I think of the VCU basketball games and the JMU football games. The basketball tournaments were also some of my fondest memories of ODU basketball, it's the one thing that trumps CUSA. However, now with how the CAA is, I don't want anything to do with that conference and am perfectly fine in CUSA, unless of course we have the opportunity to move up (which anyone else would take)

Well VCU didn't have a football program to worry about, ODU does and needed to put it in the best position it could. GSU, correct me if I am wrong, but they severely sucked at both sports when you were in the CAA. James Madison just flat out screwed the pooch turning down a sunbelt invite. I mean if CUSA (this is what they held out for I think) isn't in the cards for that time, and you still wanted to be FBS, sunbelt would have been a good starting point and build the program up more to make it more attractive later one. Short sighted deal for them. I understand they made a lot of renovations to their stadium to bring it up to FBS level, but playing poker with FBS inclusion was stupid. Richmond was already gone to A10, GMU was on its way with VCU, so all you would have had left was JMU and Delaware as far as football goes and nothing but the suck train with basketball.

ODU made the right move for the WHOLE athletic program if you consider all the factors.

William & Mary and Richmond were close for football too but I still prefer where we are right now.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-24-2016 08:22 AM)herdinva Wrote:  
(06-23-2016 03:47 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 05:29 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 08:31 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 06:00 AM)RedParallax Wrote:  Give it time for those fans to shut up about preferring to have stuck in FCS. That B.S. will die down with FBS level success that ODU will inevitably have. Marshall had those same folks in the late 90's and early 2000's after we moved up to FBS, even when we were beating teams like South Carolina, Clemson, and Kansas State while dominating the MAC. Every fan base has fools.

Nearly every time ODU sports/football/basketball posts something there is somone clamoring for the CAA. I miss the CAA days, but now that VCU, George Mason, and Georgia State are gone, there is no way I would want back in. We got football at a time where the CAA was one of the most dominant conferences in 1-AA (back when they called it that), but it isn't the same anymore. Sure, playing JMU in football would be nice but then what, Elon? Albany? Yeah right. I'll be fine with playing Conference USA schools in football AND basketball, there is no comparison. And we play 15 ACC school in the next 10 years, including one year that we play both UVA and Virginia Tech in the same OOC. That wouldn't happen if we were in the CAA

Hold up, I'm with you on VCU and probably Mason, but you wouldn't want to go back to the CAA because Georgia State is gone? The team in Atlanta that no one in Atlanta knows plays there? Averaging 500 in seats (not tickets sold) for basketball games when we played them there?

I personally thought adding Georgia State and Northeastern was the worst move made by the CAA, expanding a mid major league from Boston to Atlanta with teams that no one in their market cares about for the sake of getting the media market.


GSU is far down on that list. I only mentioned them because they have left, and their basketball team has had some success since leaving the CAA (They have one more NCAA berth and win than ODU does since we let the CAA). When I think of the CAA days, I think of the VCU basketball games and the JMU football games. The basketball tournaments were also some of my fondest memories of ODU basketball, it's the one thing that trumps CUSA. However, now with how the CAA is, I don't want anything to do with that conference and am perfectly fine in CUSA, unless of course we have the opportunity to move up (which anyone else would take)

Well VCU didn't have a football program to worry about, ODU does and needed to put it in the best position it could. GSU, correct me if I am wrong, but they severely sucked at both sports when you were in the CAA. James Madison just flat out screwed the pooch turning down a sunbelt invite. I mean if CUSA (this is what they held out for I think) isn't in the cards for that time, and you still wanted to be FBS, sunbelt would have been a good starting point and build the program up more to make it more attractive later one. Short sighted deal for them. I understand they made a lot of renovations to their stadium to bring it up to FBS level, but playing poker with FBS inclusion was stupid. Richmond was already gone to A10, GMU was on its way with VCU, so all you would have had left was JMU and Delaware as far as football goes and nothing but the suck train with basketball.

ODU made the right move for the WHOLE athletic program if you consider all the factors.

I agree with literally everything you just said haha, I'm not one of the fans I was describing. I am glad we're not in what is left of the CAA. JMU officials don't want to admit it but they f'd up big time. It's almost as if they were waiting on an ACC invite, which is never going to happen.

Other than that, like I said, CUSA>>>>>>CAA
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(06-24-2016 11:36 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  JMU officials don't want to admit it but they f'd up big time. It's almost as if they were waiting on an ACC invite, which is never going to happen.

Other than that, like I said, CUSA>>>>>>CAA

That's what happens when you have faculty and staff pressure you and in your ear claiming you are better than those other schools academically, If I was a student athlete looking for top notch academics I'm sure Id look past JMU.

JMU can have fun playing with Towson, William and Mary, Delaware and Elon.
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(06-24-2016 11:36 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 08:22 AM)herdinva Wrote:  
(06-23-2016 03:47 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 05:29 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 08:31 AM)MonGNARch Wrote:  Nearly every time ODU sports/football/basketball posts something there is somone clamoring for the CAA. I miss the CAA days, but now that VCU, George Mason, and Georgia State are gone, there is no way I would want back in. We got football at a time where the CAA was one of the most dominant conferences in 1-AA (back when they called it that), but it isn't the same anymore. Sure, playing JMU in football would be nice but then what, Elon? Albany? Yeah right. I'll be fine with playing Conference USA schools in football AND basketball, there is no comparison. And we play 15 ACC school in the next 10 years, including one year that we play both UVA and Virginia Tech in the same OOC. That wouldn't happen if we were in the CAA

Hold up, I'm with you on VCU and probably Mason, but you wouldn't want to go back to the CAA because Georgia State is gone? The team in Atlanta that no one in Atlanta knows plays there? Averaging 500 in seats (not tickets sold) for basketball games when we played them there?

I personally thought adding Georgia State and Northeastern was the worst move made by the CAA, expanding a mid major league from Boston to Atlanta with teams that no one in their market cares about for the sake of getting the media market.


GSU is far down on that list. I only mentioned them because they have left, and their basketball team has had some success since leaving the CAA (They have one more NCAA berth and win than ODU does since we let the CAA). When I think of the CAA days, I think of the VCU basketball games and the JMU football games. The basketball tournaments were also some of my fondest memories of ODU basketball, it's the one thing that trumps CUSA. However, now with how the CAA is, I don't want anything to do with that conference and am perfectly fine in CUSA, unless of course we have the opportunity to move up (which anyone else would take)

Well VCU didn't have a football program to worry about, ODU does and needed to put it in the best position it could. GSU, correct me if I am wrong, but they severely sucked at both sports when you were in the CAA. James Madison just flat out screwed the pooch turning down a sunbelt invite. I mean if CUSA (this is what they held out for I think) isn't in the cards for that time, and you still wanted to be FBS, sunbelt would have been a good starting point and build the program up more to make it more attractive later one. Short sighted deal for them. I understand they made a lot of renovations to their stadium to bring it up to FBS level, but playing poker with FBS inclusion was stupid. Richmond was already gone to A10, GMU was on its way with VCU, so all you would have had left was JMU and Delaware as far as football goes and nothing but the suck train with basketball.

ODU made the right move for the WHOLE athletic program if you consider all the factors.

I agree with literally everything you just said haha, I'm not one of the fans I was describing. I am glad we're not in what is left of the CAA. JMU officials don't want to admit it but they f'd up big time. It's almost as if they were waiting on an ACC invite, which is never going to happen.

Other than that, like I said, CUSA>>>>>>CAA

Yep, more or less. They were wanting the CUSA invite. I cant remember if it was before ODU or after. CUSA might have visited them but they were looowwwww on the list. I still don't think they would have been invited if ODU said no.

Now, the Sunbelt was interested in them, a lot. They turned their nose up at the sunbelt still holding out hope for CUSA to do something. Very dumb. Once they knew ODU was in the fold, they should have accepted the Sunbelt. Otherwise, why put all that money into that stadium at the FCS level?? just very very dumb.
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(06-24-2016 02:05 PM)herdinva Wrote:  CUSA might have visited them but they were looowwwww on the list. I still don't think they would have been invited if ODU said no.

Back when all this started CUSA ask JMU, Delaware and ODU a spot in CUSA, they were ask at the Final 4 that year. They all declined at the Final 4 meeting. When the ODU AD got home he called CUSA and started burning the phone lines up.
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(06-24-2016 02:05 PM)herdinva Wrote:  CUSA might have visited them but they were looowwwww on the list. I still don't think they would have been invited if ODU said no.

Back when all this started CUSA ask JMU, Delaware and ODU a spot in CUSA, they were ask at the Final 4 that year. They all declined at the Final 4 meeting. When the ODU AD got home he called CUSA and started burning the phone lines up.

I don't think JMU was part of that, Delaware was but they chose to remain FCS. Being as honest as I can, I am glad they turned it down for whatever reason, imagine how much worse we would have been viewed as with more than 2 FCS teams brought in.
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(06-24-2016 02:30 PM)herdinva Wrote:  
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(06-24-2016 02:05 PM)herdinva Wrote:  CUSA might have visited them but they were looowwwww on the list. I still don't think they would have been invited if ODU said no.

Back when all this started CUSA ask JMU, Delaware and ODU a spot in CUSA, they were ask at the Final 4 that year. They all declined at the Final 4 meeting. When the ODU AD got home he called CUSA and started burning the phone lines up.

I don't think JMU was part of that, Delaware was but they chose to remain FCS. Being as honest as I can, I am glad they turned it down for whatever reason, imagine how much worse we would have been viewed as with more than 2 FCS teams brought in.

I would love to share a conference with Delaware if they were to ever get serious about it.
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(06-24-2016 02:05 PM)herdinva Wrote:  CUSA might have visited them but they were looowwwww on the list. I still don't think they would have been invited if ODU said no.

Back when all this started CUSA ask JMU, Delaware and ODU a spot in CUSA, they were ask at the Final 4 that year. They all declined at the Final 4 meeting. When the ODU AD got home he called CUSA and started burning the phone lines up.

I don't think JMU was part of that, Delaware was but they chose to remain FCS. Being as honest as I can, I am glad they turned it down for whatever reason, imagine how much worse we would have been viewed as with more than 2 FCS teams brought in.

I would love to share a conference with Delaware if they were to ever get serious about it.

They are happy I think as a Top Tier FCS program with the 20,000 seater ect.
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(06-24-2016 06:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 05:45 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 02:30 PM)herdinva Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 02:22 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 02:05 PM)herdinva Wrote:  CUSA might have visited them but they were looowwwww on the list. I still don't think they would have been invited if ODU said no.

Back when all this started CUSA ask JMU, Delaware and ODU a spot in CUSA, they were ask at the Final 4 that year. They all declined at the Final 4 meeting. When the ODU AD got home he called CUSA and started burning the phone lines up.

I don't think JMU was part of that, Delaware was but they chose to remain FCS. Being as honest as I can, I am glad they turned it down for whatever reason, imagine how much worse we would have been viewed as with more than 2 FCS teams brought in.

I would love to share a conference with Delaware if they were to ever get serious about it.

They are happy I think as a Top Tier FCS program with the 20,000 seater ect.

Oh I agree that they are. If they ever decided to get serious though, look out.
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(06-24-2016 07:05 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 06:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 05:45 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 02:30 PM)herdinva Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 02:22 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Back when all this started CUSA ask JMU, Delaware and ODU a spot in CUSA, they were ask at the Final 4 that year. They all declined at the Final 4 meeting. When the ODU AD got home he called CUSA and started burning the phone lines up.

I don't think JMU was part of that, Delaware was but they chose to remain FCS. Being as honest as I can, I am glad they turned it down for whatever reason, imagine how much worse we would have been viewed as with more than 2 FCS teams brought in.

I would love to share a conference with Delaware if they were to ever get serious about it.

They are happy I think as a Top Tier FCS program with the 20,000 seater ect.

Oh I agree that they are. If they ever decided to get serious though, look out.
Delaware is an unfortunate victim of timing, and JMU is a victim of overvaluing themselves

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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-24-2016 07:42 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 07:05 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 06:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 05:45 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 02:30 PM)herdinva Wrote:  I don't think JMU was part of that, Delaware was but they chose to remain FCS. Being as honest as I can, I am glad they turned it down for whatever reason, imagine how much worse we would have been viewed as with more than 2 FCS teams brought in.

I would love to share a conference with Delaware if they were to ever get serious about it.

They are happy I think as a Top Tier FCS program with the 20,000 seater ect.

Oh I agree that they are. If they ever decided to get serious though, look out.
Delaware is an unfortunate victim of timing, and JMU is a victim of overvaluing themselves

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I agree with this for sure.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-24-2016 09:47 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 07:42 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 07:05 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 06:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(06-24-2016 05:45 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I would love to share a conference with Delaware if they were to ever get serious about it.

They are happy I think as a Top Tier FCS program with the 20,000 seater ect.

Oh I agree that they are. If they ever decided to get serious though, look out.
Delaware is an unfortunate victim of timing, and JMU is a victim of overvaluing themselves

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I agree with this for sure.
See we can get along without having to bash the other needlessly!

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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-20-2016 05:37 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(06-20-2016 05:20 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  So, some Marshall fans want to move to the MAC to make a whopping 400K per year more in TV revenues? Simply because the MAC negotiated their last TV deal shortly before the door closed on good TV deals?

This is extremely short-sighted thinking. Remember, CUSA can re-negotiate it's TV deal in a couple of years, whereas the MAC is locked in for 13 long years at a number that's not impressive. Plus, I think the bowls, the venues, the brands and the crowds are much better in CUSA.

They move up to $850K after this season right? Not bad but they also require Tuesday and Wednesday games. Since Marshall will be their biggest brand, they will be stuck with many of those games. Not a good move

The argument for the MAC doesn't just include the value of the TV contract. It also includes the money Marshall would save in travel costs.

As far as weeknight #MACtion: I would argue this is as much a feature as a bug. You want to get the nation's attention? Win a big game on Tuesday night. The entire college football world will notice, because #MACtion is the only game on.

But Marshall has to decide what's best for Marshall.
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(06-28-2016 05:40 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  As far as weeknight #MACtion: I would argue this is as much a feature as a bug. You want to get the nation's attention? Win a big game on Tuesday night. The entire college football world will notice, because #MACtion is the only game on.

Big game + Tuesday night = oxymoron.
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RE: What if Marshall wanted to backtrack to the MAC (VOMMIT)
(06-28-2016 06:06 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  
(06-28-2016 05:40 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  As far as weeknight #MACtion: I would argue this is as much a feature as a bug. You want to get the nation's attention? Win a big game on Tuesday night. The entire college football world will notice, because #MACtion is the only game on.

Big game + Tuesday night = oxymoron.

If you are undefeated or have 1 loss in November it is a big game on Tuesday.
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