(06-28-2016 09:06 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(06-28-2016 06:06 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-28-2016 05:40 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  As far as weeknight #MACtion: I would argue this is as much a feature as a bug. You want to get the nation's attention? Win a big game on Tuesday night. The entire college football world will notice, because #MACtion is the only game on.

Big game + Tuesday night = oxymoron.

If you are undefeated or have 1 loss in November it is a big game on Tuesday.

If I was a billionaire and handsome and in shape and young, Megan Fox would marry me.
A lot of caveats you listed there, which proved my earlier post true.

(06-24-2016 06:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  They are happy I think as a Top Tier FCS program with the 20,000 seater ect.

They're not even a top IAA anymore. They guy they hired after firing KC Keeler has won 6, 5 and 4 games the past 3 seasons and the Hens are projected to win anywhere between 3-5 games this year. Also their attend has taken a 2K hit in the last 3 years from 19 to 17K.

So No thanks, everyone in CUSA better be glad they said No....

(06-29-2016 11:05 AM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(06-24-2016 06:31 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  They are happy I think as a Top Tier FCS program with the 20,000 seater ect.

They're not even a top IAA anymore. They guy they hired after firing KC Keeler has won 6, 5 and 4 games the past 3 seasons and the Hens are projected to win anywhere between 3-5 games this year. Also their attend has taken a 2K hit in the last 3 years from 19 to 17K.

So No thanks, everyone in CUSA better be glad they said No....

Delaware, from what I've heard and been told, had delusions of grandeur far more damning than JMU. As in "we'll only leave for the ACC or Big 10" delusions. As it stands, I'd put money on them joining the Patriot League or even punting on scholarships entirely and joining the Pioneer or an Eastern-based offshoot than moving up to FBS and a G5 conference.

You know how you know you're a wannabe? Imitate a major FBS team's uniform. Blue Hens. No thanks.

(06-29-2016 01:44 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  You know how you know you're a wannabe? Imitate a major FBS team's uniform. Blue Hens. No thanks.

Since the imitation of the winged helmet is based upon a current FCS program at Princeton, I assume that means Delaware is fine?

I read it was first developed at Michigan when one of the coaches painted the front leather part ( the winged area) and the three crown protecting straps yellow..

(06-20-2016 07:38 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 07:32 PM)MU42 Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 07:28 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(06-20-2016 06:08 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Same reason Ohio University right up the road would never join CUSA. They definitely align more with the midwest. Most of their alumni are in those areas.

We may consider the AAC with Temple, UConn and Navy in it with its Mid Atlantic presence and bigger TV deal.

I was unaware the the AAC was looking at Ohio. Good luck with that.

Entered talks for the second time with the AAC this spring. A couple years ago Ohio was talking as a fall back if Navy didn't decide to join.

Then when the Big East was still around they had reps at our Independence Bowl. Potentially could have been a school to add instead of Tulane that would have kept both the FB and BB camps happy. That year Ohio was in the Top 25 for both FB and BB. The name was at least on the board at that point.

The last couple of years announced an expansion to FB stadium (money already raised) and BB arena (new grand entrance, practice facilities). That probably was areas that we were told to fix by the BE/AAC during earlier discussions.

Yeah....lol Not going to happen. Ohio has major things going against it:

1) Peden is nowhere close to being up to par. It is a cute lil' stadium, though.
2) Last conference championship was in 1968
3) Pretty sure OU hasn't finished a season in the top 25
4) 2-7 bowl record
5) Budget is WAY too small (94th at $28,709,413 with 65% of that subsidized)

ODU or Charlotte would be much more likely candidates... But it's a moot point because expansion ain't happening.

(06-30-2016 10:14 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  2) Last conference championship was in 1968
3) Pretty sure OU hasn't finished a season in the top 25

In the final AP poll for the 1968 season, Ohio (10-1) was ranked No. 20.

(06-30-2016 12:01 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 10:14 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  2) Last conference championship was in 1968
3) Pretty sure OU hasn't finished a season in the top 25

In the final AP poll for the 1968 season, Ohio (10-1) was ranked No. 20.

My apologies.

(06-30-2016 10:14 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Yeah....lol Not going to happen. Ohio has major things going against it:

1) Peden is nowhere close to being up to par. It is a cute lil' stadium, though.
2) Last conference championship was in 1968
3) Pretty sure OU hasn't finished a season in the top 25
4) 2-7 bowl record
5) Budget is WAY too small (94th at $28,709,413 with 65% of that subsidized)

ODU or Charlotte would be much more likely candidates... But it's a moot point because expansion ain't happening.

can u imagine if people in the real world actually made decisions based off of arbitrary nonsense like this? Sure, decision makers are going to be critical of a MAC schools ability to finish in the top 25 because its so easy to do when you're in a conference like the MAC. Same goes for budget, because a school in a conf with historically non existent revenue streams should just magically have a huge budget, AND do it without subsidies.

Hilarious.

(06-30-2016 06:57 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 10:14 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Yeah....lol Not going to happen. Ohio has major things going against it:

1) Peden is nowhere close to being up to par. It is a cute lil' stadium, though.
2) Last conference championship was in 1968
3) Pretty sure OU hasn't finished a season in the top 25
4) 2-7 bowl record
5) Budget is WAY too small (94th at $28,709,413 with 65% of that subsidized)

ODU or Charlotte would be much more likely candidates... But it's a moot point because expansion ain't happening.

can u imagine if people in the real world actually made decisions based off of arbitrary nonsense like this? Sure, decision makers are going to be critical of a MAC schools ability to finish in the top 25 because its so easy to do when you're in a conference like the MAC. Same goes for budget, because a school in a conf with historically non existent revenue streams should just magically have a huge budget, AND do it without subsidies.

Hilarious.

I knew I could count on you to rebut, Perimeter... My intent was not to disparage Ohio, so cool your jets. We are not getting in either... Period, so don't make this a dick measuring contest.

My point is that budget, facilities, and market play a role... That is exactly how they made their decisions to add teams.. And if you have none of those, then performance on the field has to be the bogey... And... I admit I haven't looked this up, but do any AAC schools have a subsidy over 50%? Which I think might eliminate ODU come to think of it... So please show me where OU is the best candidate...

Oh, and your basketball prowress isn't getting you there either

I'll be waiting...

(06-30-2016 08:48 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 06:57 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 10:14 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Yeah....lol Not going to happen. Ohio has major things going against it:

1) Peden is nowhere close to being up to par. It is a cute lil' stadium, though.
2) Last conference championship was in 1968
3) Pretty sure OU hasn't finished a season in the top 25
4) 2-7 bowl record
5) Budget is WAY too small (94th at $28,709,413 with 65% of that subsidized)

ODU or Charlotte would be much more likely candidates... But it's a moot point because expansion ain't happening.

can u imagine if people in the real world actually made decisions based off of arbitrary nonsense like this? Sure, decision makers are going to be critical of a MAC schools ability to finish in the top 25 because its so easy to do when you're in a conference like the MAC. Same goes for budget, because a school in a conf with historically non existent revenue streams should just magically have a huge budget, AND do it without subsidies.

Hilarious.

I knew I could count on you to rebut, Perimeter... My intent was not to disparage Ohio, so cool your jets. We are not getting in either... Period, so don't make this a dick measuring contest.

My point is that budget, facilities, and market play a role... That is exactly how they made their decisions to add teams.. And if you have none of those, then performance on the field has to be the bogey... So please show me where OU is the best candidate...

I'll be waiting...

Tulane has 1 conference title since 1949, 2 winning seasons since the start of the BCS era, an athletic budget of $21M, and an avg attendance last year of 22K but that didn't prevent them from joining the AAC . Based on your criteria they would never be considered. This isn't about Ohio, btw.

(06-30-2016 09:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 08:48 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 06:57 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(06-30-2016 10:14 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Yeah....lol Not going to happen. Ohio has major things going against it:

1) Peden is nowhere close to being up to par. It is a cute lil' stadium, though.
2) Last conference championship was in 1968
3) Pretty sure OU hasn't finished a season in the top 25
4) 2-7 bowl record
5) Budget is WAY too small (94th at $28,709,413 with 65% of that subsidized)

ODU or Charlotte would be much more likely candidates... But it's a moot point because expansion ain't happening.

can u imagine if people in the real world actually made decisions based off of arbitrary nonsense like this? Sure, decision makers are going to be critical of a MAC schools ability to finish in the top 25 because its so easy to do when you're in a conference like the MAC. Same goes for budget, because a school in a conf with historically non existent revenue streams should just magically have a huge budget, AND do it without subsidies.

Hilarious.

I knew I could count on you to rebut, Perimeter... My intent was not to disparage Ohio, so cool your jets. We are not getting in either... Period, so don't make this a dick measuring contest.

My point is that budget, facilities, and market play a role... That is exactly how they made their decisions to add teams.. And if you have none of those, then performance on the field has to be the bogey... So please show me where OU is the best candidate...

I'll be waiting...

Tulane has 1 conference title since 1949, 2 winning seasons since the start of the BCS era, an athletic budget of $21M, and an avg attendance last year of 22K but that didn't prevent them from joining the AAC . Based on your criteria they would never be considered. This isn't about Ohio, btw.

No, I understand that now.. That it's not about Ohio.. But Tulame captures the New Orleans market... And they're building or have built a new stadium... That's what I'm saying.. If your performance sucks (Tulane), then you have to carry the market...and potential bowl tie ins.... And although Tulane isn't on the front page of the news, the AAC has a presence there..

Neither Huntington (65th DMA behind Tulsa for last in the AAC... Nor Athens can carry that). Which is why I think that IF they expand, it'll be a surprise to us all... Someone like Charlotte, or someone like that... But like I said, it's a moot point.. The MAC is the most stable conference in FBS... The only exception might be the Big 10... Nothing wrong with that at all...