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Well, I suppose we're at an impasse on this until we see how it all plays out. In Keatts we trust. Win the games against the schedule given, even if we disagree with the merits of some of the choices. A non-D1 opponent won't hurt us one iota if we have a 25+ win season.
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This UNCW team, without injury, can be very good. You have to win a lot, but it can be done to get an At Large-it's really hard to do with this schedule though. It's way too early though and this team will have to gel. They should be good, how good remains to be seen. It's a shame that Clemson is the best game though because it's just one game and not several. C of C will be a hard game this year for sure and the Tribe will be tough too. The goal should be to win the CAA regular season and just play the best that they can overall. It's one thing to surprise people and quite another to go do it when expected. This is what VCU has had to do for years. This is a VCU type of team in my mind although built a little different still. To be really good, this team/program needs to develop a physically down low to augment terrific guard and wing performers. Let's see....
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The Tribe are losing a lot with Tarpey graduating but they'll still have a really good squad.
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(06-22-2016 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  [quote='solohawks' pid='13346300' dateline='1466560886']
[quote='82hawk' pid='13346269' dateline='1466559983']
Keatts and Bass wanted less away games period. Unfortunately, we cannot get quality games at home, so the Non DI teams are more than willing to come to Trask. Right now, our best bet is to win the CAA tournament. We need to take care of the Radfords, ECU's and other D1 teams that will get give us home and homes. Take care of conference play and we'll be good to go. Until the rest of the CAA rights their ships, the DII games don't bother me.

If we had beaten ECU and Radford last year, we'd have had an at-large shot. THOSE are the games we MUST won.
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I disagree. The caa was in the top 10 of all conferences last year. It can't do much better than that. Beating ecu and Radford wouldn't have changed a thing in terms of getting an at large. I may be in the minority and that is fine, but I want our team to be challenged and play games that matter

We all want that. Problem is it takes two to tango. P5's have little to gain and a lot to lose by playing us, even in their own place. And even the quality mid-majors need those home-and-homes or 4-year deals we can't always readily accept.

The early season tournament in Nashville was a great move. Baby steps....

i just dont agree that we cant find a p5 team to host us and that is why we are settling for hosting non d1 opponents. its a business decision to have more home games at the lowest cost. it is just a business decision i disagree with. I would rather us go on the road and prove ourselves now that we have a team that is competitive.

You have to go on the road and see what you have at some point. Any non D1 is a joke and looks like you have a fear based schedule.
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(06-29-2016 07:46 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  [quote='solohawks' pid='13346300' dateline='1466560886']
[quote='82hawk' pid='13346269' dateline='1466559983']
Keatts and Bass wanted less away games period. Unfortunately, we cannot get quality games at home, so the Non DI teams are more than willing to come to Trask. Right now, our best bet is to win the CAA tournament. We need to take care of the Radfords, ECU's and other D1 teams that will get give us home and homes. Take care of conference play and we'll be good to go. Until the rest of the CAA rights their ships, the DII games don't bother me.

If we had beaten ECU and Radford last year, we'd have had an at-large shot. THOSE are the games we MUST won.
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I disagree. The caa was in the top 10 of all conferences last year. It can't do much better than that. Beating ecu and Radford wouldn't have changed a thing in terms of getting an at large. I may be in the minority and that is fine, but I want our team to be challenged and play games that matter

We all want that. Problem is it takes two to tango. P5's have little to gain and a lot to lose by playing us, even in their own place. And even the quality mid-majors need those home-and-homes or 4-year deals we can't always readily accept.

The early season tournament in Nashville was a great move. Baby steps....

i just dont agree that we cant find a p5 team to host us and that is why we are settling for hosting non d1 opponents. its a business decision to have more home games at the lowest cost. it is just a business decision i disagree with. I would rather us go on the road and prove ourselves now that we have a team that is competitive.

You have to go on the road and see what you have at some point. Any non D1 is a joke and looks like you have a fear based schedule.

Fear based. You mean like UNC, or NC State or any other major conference school won't come to UNCW...out of fear? Yep, it's the same reason we won't commit to a "we'll play at your house, but you refuse to come to our house" deal with too many major conference schools. Right now, I like our mix. Pre-season tournament, one "big name" on the road(since they won't come here), then have as many home games as possible, and as many one for one deals as possible.
Not ideal, but the best we can get right now.

A few more NCAA tournaments, a regular top 50 RPI, and we won't be a bad road loss for some lower majors. Penn State, Pitt, Clemson, Auburn, Georgia, GT come to mind. If CoC can get them at home, so can we.
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(06-29-2016 11:07 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(06-29-2016 07:46 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  [quote='solohawks' pid='13346300' dateline='1466560886']
[quote='82hawk' pid='13346269' dateline='1466559983']
Keatts and Bass wanted less away games period. Unfortunately, we cannot get quality games at home, so the Non DI teams are more than willing to come to Trask. Right now, our best bet is to win the CAA tournament. We need to take care of the Radfords, ECU's and other D1 teams that will get give us home and homes. Take care of conference play and we'll be good to go. Until the rest of the CAA rights their ships, the DII games don't bother me.

If we had beaten ECU and Radford last year, we'd have had an at-large shot. THOSE are the games we MUST won.
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I disagree. The caa was in the top 10 of all conferences last year. It can't do much better than that. Beating ecu and Radford wouldn't have changed a thing in terms of getting an at large. I may be in the minority and that is fine, but I want our team to be challenged and play games that matter

We all want that. Problem is it takes two to tango. P5's have little to gain and a lot to lose by playing us, even in their own place. And even the quality mid-majors need those home-and-homes or 4-year deals we can't always readily accept.

The early season tournament in Nashville was a great move. Baby steps....

i just dont agree that we cant find a p5 team to host us and that is why we are settling for hosting non d1 opponents. its a business decision to have more home games at the lowest cost. it is just a business decision i disagree with. I would rather us go on the road and prove ourselves now that we have a team that is competitive.

You have to go on the road and see what you have at some point. Any non D1 is a joke and looks like you have a fear based schedule.

Fear based. You mean like UNC, or NC State or any other major conference school won't come to UNCW...out of fear? Yep, it's the same reason we won't commit to a "we'll play at your house, but you refuse to come to our house" deal with too many major conference schools. Right now, I like our mix. Pre-season tournament, one "big name" on the road(since they won't come here), then have as many home games as possible, and as many one for one deals as possible.
Not ideal, but the best we can get right now.

A few more NCAA tournaments, a regular top 50 RPI, and we won't be a bad road loss for some lower majors. Penn State, Pitt, Clemson, Auburn, Georgia, GT come to mind. If CoC can get them at home, so can we.

This day and age I think it's more money than fear. Unc and state can make more money hosting a game, including the money to bring a team in for a 1 off then they can doing a home and home with a caa team. Throw in TV money and the expectations of ESPN to have a certain number of UNC home games, I.e. games they control the TV rights too and it makes absolutely no sense for a UNC or state to come here.

You also have to factor in the CAA does NOT have a contract with espn, so any time you visit a CAA school your game will be on NBC SN at best
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5 star 7 foot center, Mitchell Robinson, has committed to Western Kentucky. He's the #1 center in the country and #9 player overall. Guess his godfather being hired as an assistant a month ago helped.
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Robinson was also previously committed to Stansbury at TAMU. With Stansbury now at WKU, and Shammond as his godfather, this isn't a huge surprise. Since he's already decommitted once, there's also the possibility that this isn't closed.
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WKU has talent and size.
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(06-29-2016 11:07 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(06-29-2016 07:46 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(06-22-2016 08:37 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(06-21-2016 10:43 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  [quote='solohawks' pid='13346300' dateline='1466560886']
[quote='82hawk' pid='13346269' dateline='1466559983']
Keatts and Bass wanted less away games period. Unfortunately, we cannot get quality games at home, so the Non DI teams are more than willing to come to Trask. Right now, our best bet is to win the CAA tournament. We need to take care of the Radfords, ECU's and other D1 teams that will get give us home and homes. Take care of conference play and we'll be good to go. Until the rest of the CAA rights their ships, the DII games don't bother me.

If we had beaten ECU and Radford last year, we'd have had an at-large shot. THOSE are the games we MUST won.
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I disagree. The caa was in the top 10 of all conferences last year. It can't do much better than that. Beating ecu and Radford wouldn't have changed a thing in terms of getting an at large. I may be in the minority and that is fine, but I want our team to be challenged and play games that matter

We all want that. Problem is it takes two to tango. P5's have little to gain and a lot to lose by playing us, even in their own place. And even the quality mid-majors need those home-and-homes or 4-year deals we can't always readily accept.

The early season tournament in Nashville was a great move. Baby steps....

i just dont agree that we cant find a p5 team to host us and that is why we are settling for hosting non d1 opponents. its a business decision to have more home games at the lowest cost. it is just a business decision i disagree with. I would rather us go on the road and prove ourselves now that we have a team that is competitive.

You have to go on the road and see what you have at some point. Any non D1 is a joke and looks like you have a fear based schedule.

Fear based. You mean like UNC, or NC State or any other major conference school won't come to UNCW...out of fear? Yep, it's the same reason we won't commit to a "we'll play at your house, but you refuse to come to our house" deal with too many major conference schools. Right now, I like our mix. Pre-season tournament, one "big name" on the road(since they won't come here), then have as many home games as possible, and as many one for one deals as possible.
Not ideal, but the best we can get right now.

A few more NCAA tournaments, a regular top 50 RPI, and we won't be a bad road loss for some lower majors. Penn State, Pitt, Clemson, Auburn, Georgia, GT come to mind. If CoC can get them at home, so can we.

Looks like Duke has a open date now-why not pick up the phone and give it a shot? UNCW thinks they should have won the last matchup,well go ahead and issue the challenge. They have a nice little arena and a rep to go along with it and UNCW needs to build a rep of their own.
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No way in hell Coach K wants to do that. It's not in his favor to play UNCW in the reg season when we are in the middle of a good upswing. Only hurts Duke.
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yeah it's a lose lose for Duke.
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But... I see his point, it's at least worth the call, if in fact there was a recent opening. Continue the narrative that captivated NC bball fans 3 months ago. IMO, taking risks like that is the only way to capitalize on our NCAA appearances. There's no guaentee we get back this year, so why not play that card while we have it, just for ***** and giggles? The NFL always opens up the season with a SB rematch...
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I agree. It is worth making the phone call what is the worst thing that could happen? They say no? Nothing is lost. You never know what will happen unless you make an effort.
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From what I read, they are trying to get a team already in the tournament to basically swap spots with Albany.
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Any surprises on our schedule is is Clemson it
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It would be a shame if the Hawks didn't get more big games with the team that we have. Our team can play with any team in the nation on any given night. I don't say that very often but it's the truth. If we had a few more big games this year, we would have a better chance than to have to get it done in the CAA tourney. And, we know that winning 3 games in a row isn't easy. Heck last year we were basically a top 50 team and had to comeback against a good C of C team (that was close!). We had to beat a good NE squad and then beat a top 50ish Hosftra club in OT! The flip side is that if you're the best team, you find a way but it's tough. The flip side is that if you can do it, you're battle tested and you have a shot to win that 1st round game. It's best to get at least an 11 seed to advance or a 12.

We still don't know if we're good yet. It definitely seems like we will be but you just don't know. Ponder was very good y'all and I loved the way he played. All heart and all team...what a freaking overall player. I'll miss him. Still, with so much back, you have to like UNCW's chances against anybody they play.
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UNCW has nothing to lose by at least making the offer to play and Duke has little to worry about as well. UNCW winning there is about as likely as me hitting the lottery but you will never get these guys anywhere else.
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You guys have any idea the date of the ECU game? Hoping the series gets extended.
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(07-17-2016 09:25 PM)oasispirate Wrote:  You guys have any idea the date of the ECU game? Hoping the series gets extended.

Lets hope not for UNCW basketball. ECU adds zero to the program's growth and is all downside other that the fact that a few fans still see it as a rivalry game. It is time to move on from this and build on the COC games as a rivalry type deal. Wilmington has a large contingent of ECU grads and fans and I am guessing that is where the interest comes from because it makes no sense for UNCW. Baseball is a yes and basketball is a big fat no way.
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