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Dissolve CUSA?
Biloxi MS newspaper article suggests CUSA dissolve and members form their own regional conferences.


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Dissolve CUSA?
Heck ya dissolve that crap conference. It just means more money for the rest of the G5.
06-12-2016 12:16 AM
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
I honestly think it might happen. Marshall and Southern Miss fans are used to more money and prestige. I think the super boosters from both schools are going to demand change. Money is the life blood of college athletics and boosters play h8ge role in shaping programs . The modern AD is almost beholden to the top 5 percent of givers.

I think theses boosters and AD'S are going to want contingency plans. This is a crisis for Marshall and USM. Why not shop their programs to the MAC and the Sun Belt and look for a better deal. There simply is no reason for either school to stay in CUSA. Those two are the most important properties in CUSA and if the leave the conference is all but finished imo.
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
Marshall and S. Miss. only need to wait until the B-12 rips the AAC apart or until Texas, TT, Oklahoma and OK St move on to other conferences. Kansas and KST might find new homes in other conferences too in the next round of realignment. At that point the remaining B-12 schools reload with best of the AAC and the remaining AAC teams, CUSA, and the Sunbelt will have to figure their realignments out from what is left.

If the B-12 loses 4 then then it reloads with SMU, Houston, UCF, and USF and if it loses 6 add Cinn and Memphis too. UConn will end up in the ACC with that conference going to 16 with their former NE counter parts.

Navy, Tulane, Temple, will have major decisions to make then as to dissolving the remaining AAC conference and sending Tulsa a complete outlier packing or reinventing itself once again with a solid 6 eastern team and 6 western team conference.

The only other option if 6 teams leave the B-12 is for the AAC and the 4 remaining B-12 teams to merge making a strong 16 team conference and hopefully staying with the new power 4 conferences. In which case Marshall and S. Miss are still screwed unless they can force realignment with CUSA and the Sunbelt with one conference taking all the Eastern schools and the other conference taking all the Western schools in that realignment process to cut the travel expenses due to lack of revenue. Problem with this scenario is that UTEP would be off to the MWC but that would leave room for UMASS in the East then especially if the MWC conference took independent NMST too rather than another CUSA or Sunbelt western school.

There are options for CUSA in the next phase of realignment to get back to a tighter regional base to cut travel costs if need be. 07-coffee3
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
I think within twenty years most G-5 schools will dissolve into FCS or lower. It is difficult for college presidents to support use of student fees to prop up a FBS program that is a de facto FCS program in terms of competitiveness at the highest level.
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
C-USA could help improve their lot by getting better in basketball. They are only a one-bid league with 14 members.
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Dissolve CUSA?
AAC

Temple
USF
Cincy
UCONN
ECU
UCF
UH
Navy
Memphis
Tulsa
Tulane
SMU
Army
BYU
USM
Air Force


MAC

Bowling Green
Ohio
Akron
Buffalo
Kent State
Miami (OH)
NIU
WMU
Toledo
CMU
Ball State
EMU
MTSU
Marshall
WKU
UMass


MWC

Wyoming
NMU
Utah State
Boise State
Colorado State
SDSU
Nevada
Fresno State
UNLV
SJSU
Hawaii
UTEP
UTSA
Rice
North Texas
Texas State


Sun Belt

Ark State
App State
Ga State
Ga Southern
South Alabama
Troy
ULL
ULM
Idaho
NMSU
Coastal Carolina
La Tech
FAU
FIU
ODU
Charlotte




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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
^That looks fine except UC and Memphis shouldn't be listed at all which means you will need to figure out two more teams for the AAC. Otherwise, looks good.
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(06-12-2016 08:22 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ^That looks fine except UC and Memphis shouldn't be listed at all which means you will need to figure out two more teams for the AAC. Otherwise, looks good.

If AAC loses two we grab Colorado State and a Texas school, MWC grabs Idaho/NMSU, and Sun Belt brings up JMU and one other.


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(06-12-2016 08:26 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 08:22 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ^That looks fine except UC and Memphis shouldn't be listed at all which means you will need to figure out two more teams for the AAC. Otherwise, looks good.

If AAC loses two we grab Colorado State and a Texas school, MWC grabs Idaho/NMSU, and Sun Belt brings up JMU and one other.


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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
(06-12-2016 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 08:26 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 08:22 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ^That looks fine except UC and Memphis shouldn't be listed at all which means you will need to figure out two more teams for the AAC. Otherwise, looks good.

If AAC loses two we grab Colorado State and a Texas school, MWC grabs Idaho/NMSU, and Sun Belt brings up JMU and one other.


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UC/ Memphis aren't going anywhere 07-coffee3
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
(06-12-2016 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 08:29 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 08:26 AM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 08:22 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ^That looks fine except UC and Memphis shouldn't be listed at all which means you will need to figure out two more teams for the AAC. Otherwise, looks good.

If AAC loses two we grab Colorado State and a Texas school, MWC grabs Idaho/NMSU, and Sun Belt brings up JMU and one other.


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UC/ Memphis aren't going anywhere 07-coffee3

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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
(06-12-2016 08:22 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ^That looks fine except UC and Memphis shouldn't be listed at all which means you will need to figure out two more teams for the AAC. Otherwise, looks good.

03-zzz Memphis isn't going anywhere.
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
The C-USA legacy members (Marshall, Rice, Southern Miss, UAB and UTEP) need to call an "airport meeting" and find the 4 or 5 partners that would make the most sense to take with them. Something like:

Charlotte (4,668)
Louisiana Tech (3,856)
Marshall (5,474)
Old Dominion (7,038)
Rice (2,205)
Southern Miss (2,994)
UAB (4,946)
UTEP (7,386)

...would make a nice core group. Try to snag ULL (3,800), who seems to have pretty healthy support from fans, from the Sun Belt. The youth of the football programs at Charlotte and ODU could be an issue, but their basketball programs would be needed to make sure this group was in the running for an NCAA bid until they were together long enough to qualify for an autobid.

I added basketball attendance in parenthesis to show how this conference would look a lot better on TV than the current C-USA which has a few teams that draw less than 2,000 fans (I think UTSA and FIU are even below 1,000) or the Sun Belt where more teams are between 1-2,000.
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
(06-12-2016 07:36 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I think within twenty years most G-5 schools will dissolve into FCS or lower. It is difficult for college presidents to support use of student fees to prop up a FBS program that is a de facto FCS program in terms of competitiveness at the highest level.

CFB is going to change in some way. The big mistakes were allowing a lot of teams to move up to FBS. There's going to be a contraction at some point and I think the ones to be able to stay up will be the P5 and the G5 members who won't prove to be an impediment on what they want to do.
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(06-12-2016 12:16 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Heck ya dissolve that crap conference. It just means more money for the rest of the G5.

If they end up in three conferences instead of two (CUSA/Sunbelt)??? Uh, that's LESS money, not more.
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
(06-12-2016 07:36 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I think within twenty years most G-5 schools will dissolve into FCS or lower. It is difficult for college presidents to support use of student fees to prop up a FBS program that is a de facto FCS program in terms of competitiveness at the highest level.
^^^^
THIS.

Imagine the MAC competing in the FCS ranks...as a conference. They'd keep their rivalries, they'd be competitive.

CUSA probably doesn't have the mojo as a conference to stay together, but it's inarguable that schools would be BETTER OFF dropping together than going one-at-a-time.
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RE: Dissolve CUSA?
Dissolve? Nah. Woudnt be surprised if they end up reorganizing with the Sunbelt into more regional conferences with low travel expenses at some point in the future.
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Yes u might see 16 team leagues, umass will not join the mac btw
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Dissolve CUSA?
(06-12-2016 10:23 AM)Chappy Wrote:  The C-USA legacy members (Marshall, Rice, Southern Miss, UAB and UTEP) need to call an "airport meeting" and find the 4 or 5 partners that would make the most sense to take with them. Something like:

Charlotte (4,668)
Louisiana Tech (3,856)
Marshall (5,474)
Old Dominion (7,038)
Rice (2,205)
Southern Miss (2,994)
UAB (4,946)
UTEP (7,386)

...would make a nice core group. Try to snag ULL (3,800), who seems to have pretty healthy support from fans, from the Sun Belt. The youth of the football programs at Charlotte and ODU could be an issue, but their basketball programs would be needed to make sure this group was in the running for an NCAA bid until they were together long enough to qualify for an autobid.

I added basketball attendance in parenthesis to show how this conference would look a lot better on TV than the current C-USA which has a few teams that draw less than 2,000 fans (I think UTSA and FIU are even below 1,000) or the Sun Belt where more teams are between 1-2,000.

Add WKU and MTSU to that group for 10 then I would maybe go for UMass and App

NORTH/EAST: UMass, WKU, Marshall, ODU, App, Charlotte
SOUTH/WEST: MTSU, UAB, USM, La Tech, Rice, UTEP

A good balance of football and basketball. Yes you have 4 newbies but 3 are in good markets and all are historically solid in Basketball (ODU, Char, and UMass) or Football (App). Plus UMass and ODU have potential to be the next WKU. Charlotte I think will be good but not really a contender in a packed NC FBS market.


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