most of those projections aren't based on much of anything when it comes to the lower profile half of the bowls. some of them don't even make sense based on availability or pecking order within conferences. there is a shortage of bowl teams and the Rockets have some leverage to try and find the best bowl situation as a 9-3 team not locked into a particular bowl. the mac has backup deals w the detroit bowl (vs ACC or Big10) and st pete bowls (vs American) that they can juggle with existing bowl tie ins. the ACC will be short a team for at least one of those. the big ten may be short a team for detroit. there are also openings for the pac12 spot in the vegas (vs a top MWC team) and cactus bowl (vs Big12). the Dallas Bowl vs Navy may be available too. the mac is supposed to fill the camella, idaho, mobile, bahamas, miami beach. but could trade a spot there if the rockets have a chance to slide into a bigger profile bowl that would be good for the league.

(11-28-2016 03:10 AM)pono Wrote:  most of those projections aren't based on much of anything when it comes to the lower profile half of the bowls. some of them don't even make sense based on availability or pecking order within conferences. there is a shortage of bowl teams and the Rockets have some leverage to try and find the best bowl situation as a 9-3 team not locked into a particular bowl. the mac has backup deals w the detroit bowl (vs ACC or Big10) and st pete bowls (vs American) that they can juggle with existing bowl tie ins. the ACC will be short a team for at least one of those. the big ten may be short a team for detroit. there are also openings for the pac12 spot in the vegas (vs a top MWC team) and cactus bowl (vs Big12). the Dallas Bowl vs Navy may be available too. the mac is supposed to fill the camella, idaho, mobile, bahamas, miami beach. but could trade a spot there if the rockets have a chance to slide into a bigger profile bowl that would be good for the league.

With only 6 bowl eligible teams, and assuming WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl, I think we will only get our 5 regular bowls plus cotton.hoping they send Miami or EMU to Idaho.

(11-28-2016 08:44 AM)T4C8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 03:10 AM)pono Wrote:  most of those projections aren't based on much of anything when it comes to the lower profile half of the bowls. some of them don't even make sense based on availability or pecking order within conferences. there is a shortage of bowl teams and the Rockets have some leverage to try and find the best bowl situation as a 9-3 team not locked into a particular bowl. the mac has backup deals w the detroit bowl (vs ACC or Big10) and st pete bowls (vs American) that they can juggle with existing bowl tie ins. the ACC will be short a team for at least one of those. the big ten may be short a team for detroit. there are also openings for the pac12 spot in the vegas (vs a top MWC team) and cactus bowl (vs Big12). the Dallas Bowl vs Navy may be available too. the mac is supposed to fill the camella, idaho, mobile, bahamas, miami beach. but could trade a spot there if the rockets have a chance to slide into a bigger profile bowl that would be good for the league.

With only 6 bowl eligible teams, and assuming WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl, I think we will only get our 5 regular bowls plus cotton.hoping they send Miami or EMU to Idaho.

Agree...or even send Central to Boise. That's just not going to be a fair bowl game at all with Boise playing at home, so the MAC shouldn't try too hard to set up a "good" match there...hoping WMU takes care of business in Detroit and holds off Navy to get the Cotton Bowl spot, in which case the Mobile & Miami Beach bowls get split between us and Ohio, and I'm happy with either bowl. If Western doesn't get the Cotton Bowl spot, and the MAC can't get them into an alternate bowl, then I'm afraid our loss to Ohio will come back to bite us again, and we will be 3rd pick from the MAC, meaning either Bahamas or Boise for us...I'd rather even take the Camellia Bowl in Alabama over an unfair advantage for Boise in their place...

(11-28-2016 08:58 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 08:44 AM)T4C8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 03:10 AM)pono Wrote:  most of those projections aren't based on much of anything when it comes to the lower profile half of the bowls. some of them don't even make sense based on availability or pecking order within conferences. there is a shortage of bowl teams and the Rockets have some leverage to try and find the best bowl situation as a 9-3 team not locked into a particular bowl. the mac has backup deals w the detroit bowl (vs ACC or Big10) and st pete bowls (vs American) that they can juggle with existing bowl tie ins. the ACC will be short a team for at least one of those. the big ten may be short a team for detroit. there are also openings for the pac12 spot in the vegas (vs a top MWC team) and cactus bowl (vs Big12). the Dallas Bowl vs Navy may be available too. the mac is supposed to fill the camella, idaho, mobile, bahamas, miami beach. but could trade a spot there if the rockets have a chance to slide into a bigger profile bowl that would be good for the league.

With only 6 bowl eligible teams, and assuming WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl, I think we will only get our 5 regular bowls plus cotton.hoping they send Miami or EMU to Idaho.

Agree...or even send Central to Boise. That's just not going to be a fair bowl game at all with Boise playing at home, so the MAC shouldn't try too hard to set up a "good" match there...hoping WMU takes care of business in Detroit and holds off Navy to get the Cotton Bowl spot, in which case the Mobile & Miami Beach bowls get split between us and Ohio, and I'm happy with either bowl. If Western doesn't get the Cotton Bowl spot, and the MAC can't get them into an alternate bowl, then I'm afraid our loss to Ohio will come back to bite us again, and we will be 3rd pick from the MAC, meaning either Bahamas or Boise for us...I'd rather even take the Camellia Bowl in Alabama over an unfair advantage for Boise in their place...

It may not be "fair" but it's also about as high a profile an opponent we can hope and since it is "home" for them, stands will probably look good on tv.

There are positives with the negatives, IMO.

(11-28-2016 09:27 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 08:58 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 08:44 AM)T4C8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 03:10 AM)pono Wrote:  most of those projections aren't based on much of anything when it comes to the lower profile half of the bowls. some of them don't even make sense based on availability or pecking order within conferences. there is a shortage of bowl teams and the Rockets have some leverage to try and find the best bowl situation as a 9-3 team not locked into a particular bowl. the mac has backup deals w the detroit bowl (vs ACC or Big10) and st pete bowls (vs American) that they can juggle with existing bowl tie ins. the ACC will be short a team for at least one of those. the big ten may be short a team for detroit. there are also openings for the pac12 spot in the vegas (vs a top MWC team) and cactus bowl (vs Big12). the Dallas Bowl vs Navy may be available too. the mac is supposed to fill the camella, idaho, mobile, bahamas, miami beach. but could trade a spot there if the rockets have a chance to slide into a bigger profile bowl that would be good for the league.

With only 6 bowl eligible teams, and assuming WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl, I think we will only get our 5 regular bowls plus cotton.hoping they send Miami or EMU to Idaho.

Agree...or even send Central to Boise. That's just not going to be a fair bowl game at all with Boise playing at home, so the MAC shouldn't try too hard to set up a "good" match there...hoping WMU takes care of business in Detroit and holds off Navy to get the Cotton Bowl spot, in which case the Mobile & Miami Beach bowls get split between us and Ohio, and I'm happy with either bowl. If Western doesn't get the Cotton Bowl spot, and the MAC can't get them into an alternate bowl, then I'm afraid our loss to Ohio will come back to bite us again, and we will be 3rd pick from the MAC, meaning either Bahamas or Boise for us...I'd rather even take the Camellia Bowl in Alabama over an unfair advantage for Boise in their place...

It may not be "fair" but it's also about as high a profile an opponent we can hope and since it is "home" for them, stands will probably look good on tv.

There are positives with the negatives, IMO.

I hear you. Personally, I don't care what the stands look like for a bowl game. I want a win. Boise is a pretty good team, and while our offense could probably score some points on them, the current state of our defense makes me think that match-up would be similar to the WMU beat-down we just suffered, particularly with them having a huge home advantage. Then again, I do have the rep of being somewhat of a pessimist in recent Rocket seasons

(11-28-2016 09:49 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 09:27 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 08:58 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 08:44 AM)T4C8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 03:10 AM)pono Wrote:  most of those projections aren't based on much of anything when it comes to the lower profile half of the bowls. some of them don't even make sense based on availability or pecking order within conferences. there is a shortage of bowl teams and the Rockets have some leverage to try and find the best bowl situation as a 9-3 team not locked into a particular bowl. the mac has backup deals w the detroit bowl (vs ACC or Big10) and st pete bowls (vs American) that they can juggle with existing bowl tie ins. the ACC will be short a team for at least one of those. the big ten may be short a team for detroit. there are also openings for the pac12 spot in the vegas (vs a top MWC team) and cactus bowl (vs Big12). the Dallas Bowl vs Navy may be available too. the mac is supposed to fill the camella, idaho, mobile, bahamas, miami beach. but could trade a spot there if the rockets have a chance to slide into a bigger profile bowl that would be good for the league.

With only 6 bowl eligible teams, and assuming WMU goes to the Cotton Bowl, I think we will only get our 5 regular bowls plus cotton.hoping they send Miami or EMU to Idaho.

Agree...or even send Central to Boise. That's just not going to be a fair bowl game at all with Boise playing at home, so the MAC shouldn't try too hard to set up a "good" match there...hoping WMU takes care of business in Detroit and holds off Navy to get the Cotton Bowl spot, in which case the Mobile & Miami Beach bowls get split between us and Ohio, and I'm happy with either bowl. If Western doesn't get the Cotton Bowl spot, and the MAC can't get them into an alternate bowl, then I'm afraid our loss to Ohio will come back to bite us again, and we will be 3rd pick from the MAC, meaning either Bahamas or Boise for us...I'd rather even take the Camellia Bowl in Alabama over an unfair advantage for Boise in their place...

It may not be "fair" but it's also about as high a profile an opponent we can hope and since it is "home" for them, stands will probably look good on tv.

There are positives with the negatives, IMO.

I hear you. Personally, I don't care what the stands look like for a bowl game. I want a win. Boise is a pretty good team, and while our offense could probably score some points on them, the current state of our defense makes me think that match-up would be similar to the WMU beat-down we just suffered, particularly with them having a huge home advantage. Then again, I do have the rep of being somewhat of a pessimist in recent Rocket seasons

Hard to implement Rockets' deep passing game in poor weather conditions. UT is not a "3 yds and a cloud of dust" Offense. Until the Rocket OL develop the ability( or short yardage unit) to knock the other team back 3-5 yards, they will not win in November and will continue to be limited by poor weather conditions.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...redictions

For what it's worth
WMU COTTON
UT DOLLAR GENERAL
MU BAHAMAS
OU MIAMI BEACH
EMU CAMELIA
CMU POTATO


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Ugh, something new. Can someone list out the bowls and locations we've been to recently and what ones we've NOT been to (that's on the MAC list).\

Ultimately, I suppose it's about pay-outs versus pay-ins.

WMU aside the MAC doesn't have a bigger attraction than Hunt and Woodside, don't we have SOME leverage?

(11-28-2016 11:29 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  Ugh, something new. Can someone list out the bowls and locations we've been to recently and what ones we've NOT been to (that's on the MAC list).\

Ultimately, I suppose it's about pay-outs versus pay-ins.

WMU aside the MAC doesn't have a bigger attraction than Hunt and Woodside, don't we have SOME leverage?

Yes, considering the retractable roof, the Miami Beach Bowl would be a perfect venue to showcase the Rockets' Offense. So would Detroit, against a decent P5 opponent.

Mobile gets first pick if I recall. They might pick OU over Toledo thinking more people from there will go than a Toledo team that was just there


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(11-28-2016 10:30 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...redictions

For what it's worth
WMU COTTON
UT DOLLAR GENERAL
MU BAHAMAS
OU MIAMI BEACH
EMU CAMELIA
CMU POTATO


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That makes sense to me, so it probably won't happen.

(11-28-2016 06:19 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:30 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...redictions

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WMU COTTON
UT DOLLAR GENERAL
MU BAHAMAS
OU MIAMI BEACH
EMU CAMELIA
CMU POTATO


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That makes sense to me, so it probably won't happen.

I don't think MU is going to Bahamas since they were not eligible till last week. I bet EMU is already working on passports


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Last year wmu was announced to the Bahamas bowl the Tuesday before the macc. Which would be tomorrow

still think the Rockets end up in the Detroit Bowl if there is a P5 opponent. If not there the Cactus Bowl needs a team to play the Big12 and the Miami Beach Bowl has a spot for the MAC to play an American team. Will be a lot of trading bowl spots this year with the glut of bowls and lack of eligible teams

Yep, EMU is going to the Bahamas.

Mobile bowl game is nothing to sneeze at. Good events. Good venue. Good hosts. Enjoyed my time there


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(11-28-2016 10:30 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...redictions

For what it's worth
WMU COTTON
UT DOLLAR GENERAL
MU BAHAMAS
OU MIAMI BEACH
EMU CAMELIA
CMU POTATO


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With EMU now going to the Bahamas,
SBNation has them and Miami switching bowls.
Miami to Camelia.

My guess:
WMU-Cotton Bowl
OU-Dollar General
Toledo-Miami Beach Bowl-probably USF or UCF(yes, retractable roof and on Monday the 19th).
EMU- Bahamas Bowl
CMU-Idaho Potato Bowl
Miami U-Camellia Bowl

Maybe the Rockets against a 9-3 Tulsa in Miami. The Golden Hurricane visits the Glass Bowl 09/16/17.

I love that the May 2016 projection had Central Florida facing Marshall in the Boca Raton bowl. Marshall went 3-9 and last I saw of the game, they were losing to Western Kentucky by 35-0 just into the 2nd qtr. for their 9th loss. Final score was 60-6.. LOL nothing funnier this year than that score - and it was in Huntington.

CFU ended up 6-6 so they are bowl eligible - barely. They had a decent season with no stunning wins, but several close losses to Temple, Houston and Maryland (who was not very good). Not the same team with Bortles gone. Marshall will probably have to start paying more for their players. It's worked well in the past for them.

(11-29-2016 12:12 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  I love that the May 2016 projection had Central Florida facing Marshall in the Boca Raton bowl. Marshall went 3-9 and last I saw of the game, they were losing to Western Kentucky by 35-0 just into the 2nd qtr. for their 9th loss. Final score was 60-6.. LOL nothing funnier this year than that score - and it was in Huntington.

CFU ended up 6-6 so they are bowl eligible - barely. They had a decent season with no stunning wins, but several close losses to Temple, Houston and Maryland (who was not very good). Not the same team with Bortles gone. Marshall will probably have to start paying more for their players. It's worked well in the past for them.

Scott Frost has done a good job in his first year as HC, turning around a program that was 0-12 in 2015. People think Fleck did a good job @WMU, UCF was totally in shambles. 6-6 was a great start. Frost has played and worked under some great NFL and FBS Coaches.