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RE: NCAA Regionals
(05-31-2016 10:15 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
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(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

The way the system is set up they do deserve a spot but are they a top 64 team or even a top 150? I think the system needs to be more rewarding to teams that play well over a period of time and not just win a few games in a conference tourney and not a good conference by any means. I don't know how you do that and I have nothing against W&M but they are not a very good team.
Not to mention the fact that a ump blows a call to give them a game.
A easy way to eliminate teams like this would be to take the regular season champion and not have a conference tournament format for the NCAA baseball season. Basketball is just so different in nature that it is not a fair comparison. Baseball is a marathon of sorts and just winning 4 games in 3 or 4 days is not reflective of what type of team you are. Just a thought and I will pull for W&M to lose out quickly.

You really shouldn't talk, when you have no clue what you are talking about! First, CAA was in the top half of leagues in RPI, SEC, no. But not sisters of the poor either. Second, W n M came in SECOND in the league. Them winning the tourney is not out of the realm of possibility. And your Baseball to hoops comparison is complete BS! in fact, it could be argued quite the opposite. A conference tourney in hoops with a 1 and done scenario plays into a "bad team" getting hot much more than baseball where good teams have a second chance to pull out of a losers bracket. It's tougher to do, clearly.

Pretty much every conference after the SEC and ACC can say the same thing but trying to make a case for the CAA in baseball is stupid. I went to UNCW games all year and saw some very bad teams there. If UNCW loses both games to UNC this year they would be at home while W&M plays. UNC in no way deserved to be in the NCAA but they are light years better than a W&M. In basketball the best team wins 95% of the time but baseball is a different bird all together.
UNCW is legit and could make a huge run in the NCAA but W&M will not win a game unless they get lucky as hell. I just don't like the way it is set up for a team like them to even have a chance to beat a UNCW and get the bid. It also cost UNCW a better seed and a chance to save a pitcher or two for the next game.
95% of the time? Perhaps, but in baseball it's not one and done. So good teams get another chance to beat the teams you are calling "fakers" meaning they have to get "lucky" on more than one occasion.
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(05-31-2016 10:15 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Pretty much every conference after the SEC and ACC can say the same thing but trying to make a case for the CAA in baseball is stupid. I went to UNCW games all year and saw some very bad teams there. If UNCW loses both games to UNC this year they would be at home while W&M plays. UNC in no way deserved to be in the NCAA but they are light years better than a W&M. In basketball the best team wins 95% of the time but baseball is a different bird all together.
UNCW is legit and could make a huge run in the NCAA but W&M will not win a game unless they get lucky as hell. I just don't like the way it is set up for a team like them to even have a chance to beat a UNCW and get the bid. It also cost UNCW a better seed and a chance to save a pitcher or two for the next game.

UNCW is the 2 seed in its region. How did it cost UNCW a better seed? UNCW was not going to be a 1 seed this year so UNCW did as well as it could have done.
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(05-31-2016 10:18 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 08:59 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Please understand that Mullet is not a Seahawk fan. W&M overcame great odds to come back and win the CAA tourney. Seahawk Nation will be pulling for you guys to win. Go CAA!!!! Hoping both our teams represent.

I am a 100% UNCW baseball fan and went to most games this year and have been for years. I am not pulling for W&M to win even one game. I want the teams that deserve to be there to beat a lucky winner like these guys. Nothing personal just the way I see it.

You have a very narrow-minded way of looking at things then.

W&M played a difficult OOC schedule and went 14-9 to finish second in the 14th ranked league in D1 Baseball. Got a "buy" in not having to play on Wednesday and then went 4-1 in the tourney, capped off by sweeping UNCW twice to win it.

Pretty deserving in my book. So they're not 41-15, at the end of the day I'm sure they got UVA's attention and its a team that UVA played earlier this year.

Your hoops/baseball comparison makes no sense. In hoops every team makes the conference tourney (except in the super big power conferences) meaning you have a chance for a bottom feeder to win your league auto bid.

That's not the case here in CAA baseball.
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RE: NCAA Regionals
(05-31-2016 10:15 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 08:53 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 08:27 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(05-30-2016 10:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

The way the system is set up they do deserve a spot but are they a top 64 team or even a top 150? I think the system needs to be more rewarding to teams that play well over a period of time and not just win a few games in a conference tourney and not a good conference by any means. I don't know how you do that and I have nothing against W&M but they are not a very good team.
Not to mention the fact that a ump blows a call to give them a game.
A easy way to eliminate teams like this would be to take the regular season champion and not have a conference tournament format for the NCAA baseball season. Basketball is just so different in nature that it is not a fair comparison. Baseball is a marathon of sorts and just winning 4 games in 3 or 4 days is not reflective of what type of team you are. Just a thought and I will pull for W&M to lose out quickly.

You really shouldn't talk, when you have no clue what you are talking about! First, CAA was in the top half of leagues in RPI, SEC, no. But not sisters of the poor either. Second, W n M came in SECOND in the league. Them winning the tourney is not out of the realm of possibility. And your Baseball to hoops comparison is complete BS! in fact, it could be argued quite the opposite. A conference tourney in hoops with a 1 and done scenario plays into a "bad team" getting hot much more than baseball where good teams have a second chance to pull out of a losers bracket. It's tougher to do, clearly.

Pretty much every conference after the SEC and ACC can say the same thing but trying to make a case for the CAA in baseball is stupid. I went to UNCW games all year and saw some very bad teams there. If UNCW loses both games to UNC this year they would be at home while W&M plays. UNC in no way deserved to be in the NCAA but they are light years better than a W&M. In basketball the best team wins 95% of the time but baseball is a different bird all together.
UNCW is legit and could make a huge run in the NCAA but W&M will not win a game unless they get lucky as hell. I just don't like the way it is set up for a team like them to even have a chance to beat a UNCW and get the bid. It also cost UNCW a better seed and a chance to save a pitcher or two for the next game.

How can Uncw be legit if they are one loss away against unc from not even being included?
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(05-31-2016 10:34 AM)tribe_pride Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 10:15 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  Pretty much every conference after the SEC and ACC can say the same thing but trying to make a case for the CAA in baseball is stupid. I went to UNCW games all year and saw some very bad teams there. If UNCW loses both games to UNC this year they would be at home while W&M plays. UNC in no way deserved to be in the NCAA but they are light years better than a W&M. In basketball the best team wins 95% of the time but baseball is a different bird all together.
UNCW is legit and could make a huge run in the NCAA but W&M will not win a game unless they get lucky as hell. I just don't like the way it is set up for a team like them to even have a chance to beat a UNCW and get the bid. It also cost UNCW a better seed and a chance to save a pitcher or two for the next game.

UNCW is the 2 seed in its region. How did it cost UNCW a better seed? UNCW was not going to be a 1 seed this year so UNCW did as well as it could have done.

The only possible way you could look at us being punished for losing the caa tournament was that it cost us the Raleigh regional which is matched up against the #8 seed LSU in the super regionals v. the columbia regional matched up against #7 Clemson.

The caa tournament loss had zero to very little impact on our seeding
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The real point is the outcome of the CAAT is the best case scenario for our conference. The best team earned a 2 seed and the 2nd best team earned an opportunity to move on. This is what most UNCW fans hoped for in mbb because it's good for our programs and our conference.

I think 99% of us recognize W&M and UNCW enjoy a nice-respectful-friendly rivalry across a few sports and both institutions and fanbases have done a lot to honor that. I wish we'd do this very thing (both teams in the National Tournament) in basketball and baseball every year.

W&M advancing was certainly not a puncher's chance. The accomplishments by both programs should be celebrated and I absolutely hope we both fight on through the SR.
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We like you guys in football!
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(05-31-2016 11:40 AM)solohawks Wrote:  We like you guys in football!

Aww, sweet! We like you in football, too, solo.
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(05-31-2016 11:42 AM)Tribal Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 11:40 AM)solohawks Wrote:  We like you guys in football!

Aww, sweet! We like you in football, too, solo.
04-cheers
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(05-31-2016 11:42 AM)Tribal Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 11:40 AM)solohawks Wrote:  We like you guys in football!

Aww, sweet! We like you in football, too, solo.

Still undefeated and un-scored on. ?
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The lovefest makes me want to puke. I had no clue all you guys were closet W&M fans.
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I wonder if, as an early Christmas gift, we can give the mullet to the w&m folks?

But no. Our relationship with them has been that of a friendly rivalry. The act of passing the mullet to them might be seen as an act of war.
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(05-31-2016 12:25 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The lovefest makes me want to puke. I had no clue all you guys were closet W&M fans.

Your consistent attempts of your weakazz narcissistic bloating makes me puke.
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RE: NCAA Regionals
(05-31-2016 08:27 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(05-30-2016 10:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

The way the system is set up they do deserve a spot but are they a top 64 team or even a top 150? I think the system needs to be more rewarding to teams that play well over a period of time and not just win a few games in a conference tourney and not a good conference by any means. I don't know how you do that and I have nothing against W&M but they are not a very good team.
Not to mention the fact that a ump blows a call to give them a game.
A easy way to eliminate teams like this would be to take the regular season champion and not have a conference tournament format for the NCAA baseball season. Basketball is just so different in nature that it is not a fair comparison. Baseball is a marathon of sorts and just winning 4 games in 3 or 4 days is not reflective of what type of team you are. Just a thought and I will pull for W&M to lose out quickly.

Baseball, in many respects, is about pitching. Getting thrown into the loser's bracket is really about pitching. For W&M to have pulled off what they did, pitching-wise ... you're right, there's no comparison between basketball and baseball, and, respectfully, I think you have it backwards.
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(05-31-2016 01:02 PM)nj alum Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 08:27 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(05-30-2016 10:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(05-30-2016 10:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  W&M non conference record was awful. They just got to .500 overall by winning the title

2 early season tournaments in California and 16 total games against the RPI top 100 had something to do with that.

Bottom line they went 14-9 in CAA play then went 4-1 in the conference tournament. How can anyone possibly argue they didn't deserve a spot after that?

The way the system is set up they do deserve a spot but are they a top 64 team or even a top 150? I think the system needs to be more rewarding to teams that play well over a period of time and not just win a few games in a conference tourney and not a good conference by any means. I don't know how you do that and I have nothing against W&M but they are not a very good team.
Not to mention the fact that a ump blows a call to give them a game.
A easy way to eliminate teams like this would be to take the regular season champion and not have a conference tournament format for the NCAA baseball season. Basketball is just so different in nature that it is not a fair comparison. Baseball is a marathon of sorts and just winning 4 games in 3 or 4 days is not reflective of what type of team you are. Just a thought and I will pull for W&M to lose out quickly.

you're right, there's no comparison between basketball and baseball, and, respectfully, I think you have it backwards.
Agree 100%
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(05-31-2016 12:56 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  
(05-31-2016 12:25 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The lovefest makes me want to puke. I had no clue all you guys were closet W&M fans.

Your consistent attempts of your weakazz narcissistic bloating makes me puke.

Go away fat man.
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My, my, mullet - aren't we getting a bit touchy? If you can't stand the heat - why not get out of the kitchen? Or at least quit lurking around this board. I'm sure your friend on this board (if there is one) will mourn your absence.
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Love fest? Really? Because we have respect for one of the top schools in our conference and don't mind seeing them succeed alongside us (since we both get bids and we kept our 2 Seed)?

What would all your Pepperdine friends think about you, "100% being a UNCW baseball fan"?
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It's ok. Misery is searching for company in all the wrong places.
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RE: NCAA Regionals
Our Regional foes:


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South Carolina Gamecocks

Record: 42-15
SEC: 20-9 (2nd)
RPI: 8
SOS: 19
Best Wins: 1/2 vs. Florida (# 1); 1/3 vs. Texas A&M (# 4); W/W/W @ Ole Miss (# 5); 1/3 vs. Clemson (# 6); 1/3 @ Vanderbilt (# 9); vs. Coastal Carolina (# 12)
Bad Losses: NONE

South Carolina brings a 30-4 home record into their Columbia Regional, and thus their 0-2 performance in the SEC Tournament in Hoover, Alabama should not take much at all away from their impressive resume. Nor should their 6-5 loss to common opponent Charleston back on March 29th. The Gamecocks compiled an impressive 9-12 record against the RPI Top 50 this season.

SC fans seem to think the Gamecocks dodged a bullet by not being given as difficult a regional as Clemson was handed (Oklahoma St, Nebraska and Western Carolina). And for a program with 6 national title finals appearances and 2 national titles (2010, 2011), they have every right to enter the tournament with a lot of confidence.

The Gamecocks have a bevy of pitching options to use against Rhode Island and beyond in this Regional. Friday starter and sophomore righty Clarke Schmidt (9-3, 2.96 ERA, 115 K's, 22 BB's, 100.1 innings) is certainly their top option, while freshman righty Braden Webb (10-5, 3.39 ERA, 117 K's, 44 BB's, 90.1 innings) is likely their # 2. Schmidt is capable of hitting the mid-90s with his fastball, often showing some movement with it, and adds in a power curveball and slider. Webb, meanwhile, is a big 6-4 arm also capable of throwing in the mid-90s with a curve and changeup.


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Duke Blue Devils

Record: 33-22
ACC: 14-15 (7th)
RPI: 26
SOS: 14
Best Wins: 1/3 vs. Miami (# 3); 2/3 vs. Clemson (# 6); 1/3 @ NC State (# 10); 2/3 vs. FSU (# 13); 1/3 vs. Virginia (# 17); 2/3 @ Georgia Tech (# 20); 1/3 @ Wake Forest (# 25); vs. Ohio State (# 35)
Bad Losses: NONE

Duke finished their 2016 campaign on a tear, winning 9 of their final 10 games, including a home series win against Florida State. And this may have played a huge role in the Blue Devils reaching the NCAA Tournament for the first time in 55 years.

Duke's starting pitcher will likely be righty grad student Kellen Urbon. As the team's Friday starter, Urbon has only walked 17 in 87.2 innings and allowed a .228 opponent batting average. The Blue Devils have a pair of .300+ hitters in Justin Bellinger (.336, 6 HR, 31 RBI) and Jimmy Herron (.328, 24 stolen bases).


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Rhode Island Rams

Record: 30-25
Atlantic 10: 18-6 (1st)
RPI: 111
SOS: 162
Best Wins: 1/3 @ Maryland (# 59); 2/3 vs. VCU (# 75)
Bad Losses: @ George Mason (# 274); @ Maine (# 243); vs. Quinnipiac (# 220); 2 L @ Fordham (# 206)

The Rams took both the A-10 Regular Season title and won their tournament to earn the lone bid for the league, and have more than a fighting chance against South Carolina thanks to their ace starter, Tyler Wilson. The sophomore lefty has struck out 111 and walked just 28 in 95+ innings, while tossing 3 complete games and fashioning a 12-1 record and 2.08 ERA.
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