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Influential UT Alum, Red McCombs, backs UH to the Big 12
...and the 12th member doesn't matter to him as long as one is the University of Houston.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...ng-raiders
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Even after UH basically threw a tantrum on a public forum?

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(05-22-2016 06:23 PM)UH1927 Wrote:  ...and the 12th member doesn't matter to him as long as one is the University of Houston.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...ng-raiders

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The big12 is on borrow time... Why bother join a minus 75% water down big12 conference.
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(05-22-2016 06:32 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Even after UH basically threw a tantrum on a public forum?

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When two of the richest men in Texas* talk, people listen, and both are backing Houston.

*combined net worth of $4.25 Billion
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(05-22-2016 06:23 PM)UH1927 Wrote:  ...and the 12th member doesn't matter to him as long as one is the University of Houston.

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-...ng-raiders

This is a little surprising actually. As a uh fan i didn't think we really had any support in the big 12.
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(05-22-2016 06:54 PM)UH1927 Wrote:  
(05-22-2016 06:32 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Even after UH basically threw a tantrum on a public forum?

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When two of the richest men in Texas* talk, people listen, and both are backing Houston.

*combined net worth of $4.25 Billion

That is awesome. Let us know how it works out.
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B12 meet BE.
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(05-22-2016 08:22 PM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote:  Expansion is not happening.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/s.../84650572/

Figured this would happen.
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Here are my thoughts on Houston to the Big 12. I think if you take money out of the equation, adding Houston makes more sense than adding any other team. Houston already has a deep history with the Big 12 schools in Texas. Houston spent 20 years in the same conference as Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Baylor. As a current student at Texas, I can tell you right now that Texas students I know would rather watch Texas play games against Houston than against UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Connecticut, or any other potential expansion teams. These students all have connections to UH whether through friends or family who went there or just growing up in the city. I'm not saying the games would ever become as meaningful as Texas' rivalry games, but of the expansion teams the interest would be the highest.

That said, I don't really think Houston makes too much sense otherwise. For starters, expansion is probably off the table unless a conference network is in the mix. Even if we assume a conference network will be made, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that UH would be critical to getting full carriage fees in Houston. It's a pretty safe assumption that the whole state of Texas would get full carriage fees from a conference network with just Texas, TCU, Baylor, and TTU. If Houston isn't necessarily to get full carriage feees (or doesn't significantly bump up the carriage fees), then it would make sense to go after other schools in high population areas to bring higher carriage fees to those areas.
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(05-22-2016 08:22 PM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote:  Expansion is not happening.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/s.../84650572/

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UT and our wonderful tv $$$ deal are gone if expansion moves forward so we decided to remain at 10. Hehe
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(05-23-2016 12:07 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(05-22-2016 08:22 PM)BattleCougarRed_88 Wrote:  Expansion is not happening.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/s.../84650572/

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UT and our wonderful tv $$$ deal are gone if expansion moves forward so we decided to remain at 10. Hehe

Sounds like texas.
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I think the Big 12 should stay at 10, banishing Baylor and replacing them with Houston.
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(05-22-2016 11:50 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  Here are my thoughts on Houston to the Big 12. I think if you take money out of the equation, adding Houston makes more sense than adding any other team.

But that's the only part of the equation that matters...as the Big 12 is trying to figure out how they can compete with the Big Ten and SEC...conferences that are seeing their TV $$$ soar...and most of those teams will be earning $15-$20 Million plus more PER YEAR than Big 12 teams (not named Texas) in just Conf TV Contract $$$ and Conf Network TV $$.

Recent expansion decisions have all been 100% TV $$ related...as it has had nothing to do with the past/history or even competitive level.

Most P5 schools are members solely because of their born on date...i.e. when their school was funded and/or when their football program was founded...as it has nothing to do with "which school deserves to be in a P5 and which one doesn't".
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(05-22-2016 11:50 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  Here are my thoughts on Houston to the Big 12. I think if you take money out of the equation, adding Houston makes more sense than adding any other team. Houston already has a deep history with the Big 12 schools in Texas. Houston spent 20 years in the same conference as Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Baylor. As a current student at Texas, I can tell you right now that Texas students I know would rather watch Texas play games against Houston than against UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Connecticut, or any other potential expansion teams. These students all have connections to UH whether through friends or family who went there or just growing up in the city. I'm not saying the games would ever become as meaningful as Texas' rivalry games, but of the expansion teams the interest would be the highest.

That said, I don't really think Houston makes too much sense otherwise. For starters, expansion is probably off the table unless a conference network is in the mix. Even if we assume a conference network will be made, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that UH would be critical to getting full carriage fees in Houston. It's a pretty safe assumption that the whole state of Texas would get full carriage fees from a conference network with just Texas, TCU, Baylor, and TTU. If Houston isn't necessarily to get full carriage feees (or doesn't significantly bump up the carriage fees), then it would make sense to go after other schools in high population areas to bring higher carriage fees to those areas.

You live in Texas but you think this? Lhn isn't even on Comcast in Houston. Most people in Houston cannot watch it and never have been able to watch it. A separate channel with exclusive content from the rockets, Astros, Texans, and dynamo failed miserably because it couldn't even get full carriage in the city of Houston. But it's a slam dunk this big 12 network will get full carriage?
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(05-23-2016 05:25 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  
(05-22-2016 11:50 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  Here are my thoughts on Houston to the Big 12. I think if you take money out of the equation, adding Houston makes more sense than adding any other team. Houston already has a deep history with the Big 12 schools in Texas. Houston spent 20 years in the same conference as Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Baylor. As a current student at Texas, I can tell you right now that Texas students I know would rather watch Texas play games against Houston than against UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Connecticut, or any other potential expansion teams. These students all have connections to UH whether through friends or family who went there or just growing up in the city. I'm not saying the games would ever become as meaningful as Texas' rivalry games, but of the expansion teams the interest would be the highest.

That said, I don't really think Houston makes too much sense otherwise. For starters, expansion is probably off the table unless a conference network is in the mix. Even if we assume a conference network will be made, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that UH would be critical to getting full carriage fees in Houston. It's a pretty safe assumption that the whole state of Texas would get full carriage fees from a conference network with just Texas, TCU, Baylor, and TTU. If Houston isn't necessarily to get full carriage feees (or doesn't significantly bump up the carriage fees), then it would make sense to go after other schools in high population areas to bring higher carriage fees to those areas.

You live in Texas but you think this? Lhn isn't even on Comcast in Houston. Most people in Houston cannot watch it and never have been able to watch it. A separate channel with exclusive content from the rockets, Astros, Texans, and dynamo failed miserably because it couldn't even get full carriage in the city of Houston. But it's a slam dunk this big 12 network will get full carriage?

Okay for the sake of argument, lets assume you're right. Without UH, the Big 12 network gets full carriage throughout Texas except for Comcast in Houston. Adding full carriage on Comcast in Houston would add what? 850k subscribers? That's not a whole lot compared to another university that can deliver a lot more than one network in one city. The LHN is already on 9 of the 10 largest carriers in Texas.
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Tulane. Close toTexas, fertile territory for all schools in BIG XII now, enhanced by BIG XII playing six games a year in Louisiana. And WIN FOR TULANE.
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(05-23-2016 07:35 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I think the Big 12 should stay at 10, banishing Baylor and replacing them with Houston.

Yes, pretty sure majority Houston fans would want in in the big12... However, with out UT the league becomes no so much desirable anymore but with UT still in it the league remains horribly unstable. SMH
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(05-23-2016 06:49 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 05:25 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  
(05-22-2016 11:50 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  Here are my thoughts on Houston to the Big 12. I think if you take money out of the equation, adding Houston makes more sense than adding any other team. Houston already has a deep history with the Big 12 schools in Texas. Houston spent 20 years in the same conference as Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Baylor. As a current student at Texas, I can tell you right now that Texas students I know would rather watch Texas play games against Houston than against UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Connecticut, or any other potential expansion teams. These students all have connections to UH whether through friends or family who went there or just growing up in the city. I'm not saying the games would ever become as meaningful as Texas' rivalry games, but of the expansion teams the interest would be the highest.

That said, I don't really think Houston makes too much sense otherwise. For starters, expansion is probably off the table unless a conference network is in the mix. Even if we assume a conference network will be made, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that UH would be critical to getting full carriage fees in Houston. It's a pretty safe assumption that the whole state of Texas would get full carriage fees from a conference network with just Texas, TCU, Baylor, and TTU. If Houston isn't necessarily to get full carriage feees (or doesn't significantly bump up the carriage fees), then it would make sense to go after other schools in high population areas to bring higher carriage fees to those areas.

You live in Texas but you think this? Lhn isn't even on Comcast in Houston. Most people in Houston cannot watch it and never have been able to watch it. A separate channel with exclusive content from the rockets, Astros, Texans, and dynamo failed miserably because it couldn't even get full carriage in the city of Houston. But it's a slam dunk this big 12 network will get full carriage?

Okay for the sake of argument, lets assume you're right. Without UH, the Big 12 network gets full carriage throughout Texas except for Comcast in Houston. Adding full carriage on Comcast in Houston would add what? 850k subscribers? That's not a whole lot compared to another university that can deliver a lot more than one network in one city. The LHN is already on 9 of the 10 largest carriers in Texas.

How did you come up with 850k subscribers??
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