If the AAC were to take LA Tech for some strange reason you wouldn't have to deal with a couple of their fans, so there's that.

(05-25-2016 02:04 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 01:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Final results are in

They get 2 conference games on an ESPN network (plus 3 home games against P5's) ESPN also has rights to Title game

They get 6 games on CBSSports

They get 15 games on ASN

They get 10 games on Bein. Bein will host most non revenue sports

Rest go to ESPN3,


Total: 5 Million divided among 14 teams= Roughly 350K per school. However, each school must pay their own production costs, ala the MAC, so the actual value will be less than that for schools without much of the needed facilities to produce games.

Also, WKU loses their deal with Fox Sports again, which I'm sure their fans are THRILLED about.

No weekday games and for only 2 years, it could have been much worse I feel.

They would have made more had they committed to midweek games I think.

(05-25-2016 02:27 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 02:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So the differential in the per-school payout between the SBC and CUSA is less than the differential in the per-school profit from the CFP with the Sun Belt finishing last in the conference rankings and getting ready to go down to 10 members.

You people that assume that no SBC school would turn down CUSA, explain to me why I would want my school to pay the exit fees and take on higher travel costs to go to a CUSA if the AAC strips them of USM, Marshall, or La Tech?

The value of the contracts haven't been made public yet so it's all speculation still at this point. Probably safe to say it's worth less than 500K per team though.

It's reported to be a 7 million dollar contract.

It's not 7 million dollars per school or 7 million dollar per year for the conference.

It's 7 million dollars over 2 years and split 14 ways. It's 250k per school.

At this point, with the SBC only splitting revenue 10 ways in football compared to 14 in CUSA there really is no way an SBC school can justify a move to CUSA. If the SBC was getting MAC money before the MAC signed a new contract its receiving 150k per year already and should match CUSA money in the next round of negotiations.

(05-25-2016 11:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 02:27 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 02:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So the differential in the per-school payout between the SBC and CUSA is less than the differential in the per-school profit from the CFP with the Sun Belt finishing last in the conference rankings and getting ready to go down to 10 members.

You people that assume that no SBC school would turn down CUSA, explain to me why I would want my school to pay the exit fees and take on higher travel costs to go to a CUSA if the AAC strips them of USM, Marshall, or La Tech?

The value of the contracts haven't been made public yet so it's all speculation still at this point. Probably safe to say it's worth less than 500K per team though.

It's reported to be a 7 million dollar contract.

It's not 7 million dollars per school or 7 million dollar per year for the conference.

It's 7 million dollars over 2 years and split 14 ways. It's 250k per school.

At this point, with the SBC only splitting revenue 10 ways in football compared to 14 in CUSA there really is no way an SBC school can justify a move to CUSA. If the SBC was getting MAC money before the MAC signed a new contract its receiving 150k per year already and should match CUSA money in the next round of negotiations.

Not sure it is even going to make it to the 7 million mark. ESPN paying nothing, CBS paying 1 million. ASN pays nothing. Does the Bein network cover the rest? Make no mistake this tv contract is a failure for the league. The we are the first G5 to negotiate since ESPN financial issues argument is bull. This is a market valuation based on conference product nothing more nothing less. The valuations seems fair as I do not believe,except for Marshall, that CONF USA is worth more than Sun Belt.

(05-26-2016 06:39 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 11:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 02:27 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 02:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So the differential in the per-school payout between the SBC and CUSA is less than the differential in the per-school profit from the CFP with the Sun Belt finishing last in the conference rankings and getting ready to go down to 10 members.

You people that assume that no SBC school would turn down CUSA, explain to me why I would want my school to pay the exit fees and take on higher travel costs to go to a CUSA if the AAC strips them of USM, Marshall, or La Tech?

The value of the contracts haven't been made public yet so it's all speculation still at this point. Probably safe to say it's worth less than 500K per team though.

It's reported to be a 7 million dollar contract.

It's not 7 million dollars per school or 7 million dollar per year for the conference.

It's 7 million dollars over 2 years and split 14 ways. It's 250k per school.

At this point, with the SBC only splitting revenue 10 ways in football compared to 14 in CUSA there really is no way an SBC school can justify a move to CUSA. If the SBC was getting MAC money before the MAC signed a new contract its receiving 150k per year already and should match CUSA money in the next round of negotiations.

Not sure it is even going to make it to the 7 million mark. ESPN paying nothing, CBS paying 1 million. ASN pays nothing. Does the Bein network cover the rest? Make no mistake this tv contract is a failure for the league. The we are the first G5 to negotiate since ESPN financial issues argument is bull. This is a market valuation based on conference product nothing more nothing less. The valuations seems fair as I do not believe,except for Marshall, that CONF USA is worth more than Sun Belt.

CUSA IS the Sun Belt. The league is almost entirely made up of former Sun Belt or FCS Members.

(05-26-2016 06:39 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 11:21 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 02:27 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-25-2016 02:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  So the differential in the per-school payout between the SBC and CUSA is less than the differential in the per-school profit from the CFP with the Sun Belt finishing last in the conference rankings and getting ready to go down to 10 members.

You people that assume that no SBC school would turn down CUSA, explain to me why I would want my school to pay the exit fees and take on higher travel costs to go to a CUSA if the AAC strips them of USM, Marshall, or La Tech?

The value of the contracts haven't been made public yet so it's all speculation still at this point. Probably safe to say it's worth less than 500K per team though.

It's reported to be a 7 million dollar contract.

It's not 7 million dollars per school or 7 million dollar per year for the conference.

It's 7 million dollars over 2 years and split 14 ways. It's 250k per school.

At this point, with the SBC only splitting revenue 10 ways in football compared to 14 in CUSA there really is no way an SBC school can justify a move to CUSA. If the SBC was getting MAC money before the MAC signed a new contract its receiving 150k per year already and should match CUSA money in the next round of negotiations.

Not sure it is even going to make it to the 7 million mark. ESPN paying nothing, CBS paying 1 million. ASN pays nothing. Does the Bein network cover the rest? Make no mistake this tv contract is a failure for the league. The we are the first G5 to negotiate since ESPN financial issues argument is bull. This is a market valuation based on conference product nothing more nothing less. The valuations seems fair as I do not believe,except for Marshall, that CONF USA is worth more than Sun Belt.

Are you sure ESPN is paying nothing? They have the first 5 choices from the CUSA inventory.

Every estimate I have heard is in total, CUSA will get some where between 300k and 450k per school. My guess is Belt schools would still jump, Though they likely would think on it for a while before jumping.

(05-27-2016 08:36 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Every estimate I have heard is in total, CUSA will get some where between 300k and 450k per school. My guess is Belt schools would still jump, Though they likely would think on it for a while before jumping.

no way. $2M exit fee and $2M entrance fee, and god forbid your school has to go to the bahamas bowl and lose their a$$ there.

Would be a waste of money.

The only way I see anyone making a jump (and granted this would NEVER happen) is an even trade for outlier schools simply for geographic reasons. Example - a pair of Texas schools to the Sunbelt for a pair of eastern schools to CUSA. The only other way is something like CUSA waiving it's entry fee in a desperation move to land an App St / Ga Southern (also to achieve compact geography). It's just not going to happen.

I think we're stable for a while.

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(05-27-2016 08:36 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Every estimate I have heard is in total, CUSA will get some where between 300k and 450k per school. My guess is Belt schools would still jump, Though they likely would think on it for a while before jumping.

My opinion is that most Sun Belt schools would not go to CUSA given the net loss/even money situation that we find our two conferences in. The exception would be a Sun Belt school that would move because of wanting to associate with CUSA schools over the Sun Belt. Still that list is small probably small consisting of Texas St (to play more Texas schools) and maybe ULL. Even so I don't see CUSA adding any Sun Belt teams unless they lose three or more to other conferences.

Sounds like a massive cut in the contact value is correct. The Marshall best writers latest article states the number is indeed about $250K per school.


Those schools braced for a serious reduction in TV revenue. For example, the Virginian-Pilot in Norfolk reported that Old Dominion’s anticipated yearly TV revenue would drop to $6 million, and that ODU anticipated its share would drop $600,000 to $700,000.

But figures bandied about Wednesday put the value of the new contracts at less than $7 million over two years — or less than $3.5 million a year.

That’s less than $250,000 per year per school. That is a fraction of what Mid-American Conference schools are receiving through their exclusive-rights deal with the ESPN networks.

And it’s a major tumble for C-USA after the latest round of conference realignment. In 2012-13, the league reported $14.46 million in television and marketing revenue on its nonprofit tax return, more than $1 million per school. That fell to $10.44 million in 2013-14, the last fiscal year report available.

- See more at: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/2016...kNhCg.dpuf




http://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/2016...sa-tv-deal

I admit, I almost never turst the Virginian-Pilot, their guy seems like a mouthpiece for ODU. Which I guess is better than having a hostile beat writer, which we've had before, but still.

Someone just posted on the CUSA board that it is $9 million. I'm assuming that means over 2 years, so $4.5 million per year, or about $321,500 per school.

I think that's about what an A10 school gets paid...and they don't have football.

(05-27-2016 10:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Sounds like a massive cut is the contact value s correct. The Marshall best writers latest article states the number is indeed about $250K per school.


Those schools braced for a serious reduction in TV revenue. For example, the Virginian-Pilot in Norfolk reported that Old Dominion’s anticipated yearly TV revenue would drop to $6 million, and that ODU anticipated its share would drop $600,000 to $700,000.

But figures bandied about Wednesday put the value of the new contracts at less than $7 million over two years — or less than $3.5 million a year.

That’s less than $250,000 per year per school. That is a fraction of what Mid-American Conference schools are receiving through their exclusive-rights deal with the ESPN networks.



And it’s a major tumble for C-USA after the latest round of conference realignment. In 2012-13, the league reported $14.46 million in television and marketing revenue on its nonprofit tax return, more than $1 million per school. That fell to $10.44 million in 2013-14, the last fiscal year report available.

- See more at: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/2016...kNhCg.dpuf




http://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/2016...sa-tv-deal

I honestly wonder if its even this amount. Who is paying the conference? ESPN: no, CBS 1 million, BEIN ?, American Sports Network: NO

I think its entirely possible that CBS is the only real money on the table. BEIN might be tying some incentives to certain viewing bench marks during the year. Also, keep in mind the CUSA has to pay for their production for ESPN 3. They really could looking at a situation where they loose money on this contract.

(05-27-2016 11:14 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 10:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Sounds like a massive cut is the contact value s correct. The Marshall best writers latest article states the number is indeed about $250K per school.


Those schools braced for a serious reduction in TV revenue. For example, the Virginian-Pilot in Norfolk reported that Old Dominion’s anticipated yearly TV revenue would drop to $6 million, and that ODU anticipated its share would drop $600,000 to $700,000.

But figures bandied about Wednesday put the value of the new contracts at less than $7 million over two years — or less than $3.5 million a year.

That’s less than $250,000 per year per school. That is a fraction of what Mid-American Conference schools are receiving through their exclusive-rights deal with the ESPN networks.



And it’s a major tumble for C-USA after the latest round of conference realignment. In 2012-13, the league reported $14.46 million in television and marketing revenue on its nonprofit tax return, more than $1 million per school. That fell to $10.44 million in 2013-14, the last fiscal year report available.

- See more at: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/2016...kNhCg.dpuf




http://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/2016...sa-tv-deal

I honestly wonder if its even this amount. Who is paying the conference? ESPN: no, CBS 1 million, BEIN ?, American Sports Network: NO

I think its entirely possible that CBS is the only real money on the table. BEIN might be tying some incentives to certain viewing bench marks during the year. Also, keep in mind the CUSA has to pay for their production for ESPN 3. They really could looking at a situation where they loose money on this contract.

The same guy has another article that says CBS-Network is paying 1 million. ESPN and ASN are paying nothing. But he says hat BeIn is actually paying a significant sum to air CUSA content.

(05-27-2016 11:14 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Someone just posted on the CUSA board that it is $9 million. I'm assuming that means over 2 years, so $4.5 million per year, or about $321,500 per school.

I think that's about what an A10 school gets paid...and they don't have football.

No matter which of these reports is true this seems to be much less than any of the schools anticipated a few months ago. It will be interesting to see how this impacts things like OOC scheduling for CUSA schools. I'm hoping it will lead to more games between the SB and CUSA since we have so many schools in close proximity.

GS has a few OOC openings I hear.

(05-27-2016 11:14 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Someone just posted on the CUSA board that it is $9 million. I'm assuming that means over 2 years, so $4.5 million per year, or about $321,500 per school.

I think that's about what an A10 school gets paid...and they don't have football.

Maybe its 9 million for the whole deal---but the deal isn't for just 2 years. Whatever amount BeIn Sports is paying is spread over 4 years. So if CBSSN is paying 1 million (as reported)---I would assume ESPN is paying a similar amount for a similar package. That's 4 million. ASN pays nothing. BeIn would be paying the other 5 million over 4 years (1.25 million a year). That would make the payout about 3.25 million per year over the next 2 years (or about $232K per team). If ESPN is paying a bit more than CBS (meaning BeIn is paying slightly less of the 9 million), then Marshall's $250K per team number is probably about right.

(05-27-2016 02:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-27-2016 11:14 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Someone just posted on the CUSA board that it is $9 million. I'm assuming that means over 2 years, so $4.5 million per year, or about $321,500 per school.

I think that's about what an A10 school gets paid...and they don't have football.

Maybe its 9 million for the whole deal---but the deal isn't for just 2 years. Whatever amount BeIn Sports is paying is spread over 4 years. So if CBSSN is paying 1 million (as reported)---I would assume ESPN is paying a similar amount for a similar package. That's 4 million. ASN pays nothing. BeIn would be paying the other 5 million over 4 years (1.25 million a year). That would make the payout about 3.25 million per year over the next 2 years (or about $232K per team). If ESPN is paying a bit more than CBS (meaning BeIn is paying slightly less of the 9 million), then Marshall's $250K per team number is probably about right.

That sounds about right. I'm pretty sure ESPN is paying CUSA at least $1 million.

Loved all the cusa fans saying they wouldn't take a huge reduction in tv money. You could probably go back a grab dozens of posts from them claiming that theyd still get 500k or more per team. Hahahahaha