http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Fortunately for us, all we need is a good college power forward, and he is that.

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Not disastrous but it exposed what I knew. He is not athletic, fairly slow and not a great leaper. Also very young. Some good coaching will help.

Some thought he had very good potential. Talked of picking in second round with guarantee and stashing for 2 years. Cheap gamble. Hope Dedric doesn't go for it.

I think it helps that we have Tubby here to coach him if he does return.

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.


"Dedric Lawson: .............Going back to school and spending a few years under Tubby Smith is likely his only real option right now. Considering he's just 18-years old, that's certainly not the end of the world. "

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Things to avoid based on this post:
1. Calling the combine a disaster for DL.
Most people who know basketball did not put much hope in DL launching his career from the first round. As successful as his freshmen year has been it was clear that he was BB savvy, has a great work ethics and a head for the game. It was also clear that he needed to get stronger, lower his body fat, work on quickness and elevation. We also knew he was a tweeter. You can be great HS player that may struggle. You can be a really good college player and not translate to the NBA game. He is young, he had a great experience that he can learn from, he has time to transform his body and improve whatever weaknesses were exposed. I think he can and will do that.

2. Living in the past by continuing to poke Pastner. Get over it.

3. Drive-bys targeting other posters. If you wanted to model the core tone of this board then good job.

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.

lol, let Dedric and his dad worry about that...it's not your problem.

(05-16-2016 06:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.

lol, let Dedric and his dad worry about that...it's not your problem.

If we go with your premise then we should just close down this board because none of what is happening is our problem. We are not the school administration, we are not the coach, and we are not the players and we are not their parents.

So i guess we are being selective as to what is and is not our problem

(05-16-2016 06:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.

lol, let Dedric and his dad worry about that...it's not your problem.

If we go with your premise then we should just close down this board because none of what is happening is our problem. We are not the school administration, we are not the coach, and we are not the players and we are not their parents.

So i guess we are being selective as to what is and is not our problem

I keep looking for a downside, but it's tough to find one...

(05-16-2016 06:25 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Things to avoid based on this post:
1. Calling the combine a disaster for DL.
Most people who know basketball did not put much hope in DL launching his career from the first round. As successful as his freshmen year has been it was clear that he was BB savvy, has a great work ethics and a head for the game. It was also clear that he needed to get stronger, lower his body fat, work on quickness and elevation. We also knew he was a tweeter. You can be great HS player that may struggle. You can be a really good college player and not translate to the NBA game. He is young, he had a great experience that he can learn from, he has time to transform his body and improve whatever weaknesses were exposed. I think he can and will do that.

2. Living in the past by continuing to poke Pastner. Get over it.

3. Drive-bys targeting other posters. If you wanted to model the core tone of this board then good job.

You mean like the people who still post bout Cal 7 years later?

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.


"Dedric Lawson: .............Going back to school and spending a few years under Tubby Smith is likely his only real option right now. Considering he's just 18-years old, that's certainly not the end of the world. "

^That is not correct. If d lawson comes back this year, he can enter the draft again next year and the year after that. The rules have changed. A freshman college player can now enter the draft an unlimited number of times in their college career. There are other rule changes as well that you can find on google. I had already posted the new rules once for you, i won't do it again.

There was no harm in d lawson "testing the nba waters".

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.


"Dedric Lawson: .............Going back to school and spending a few years under Tubby Smith is likely his only real option right now. Considering he's just 18-years old, that's certainly not the end of the world. "

Once again, you are factually incorrect, your record is amazing....

(05-16-2016 08:32 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.


"Dedric Lawson: .............Going back to school and spending a few years under Tubby Smith is likely his only real option right now. Considering he's just 18-years old, that's certainly not the end of the world. "

Once again, you are factually incorrect, your record is amazing....

Sunshine pumper, unlike you and many others like you, i was up front stating he was not ready. He goes out and has the WORST rating of any player in the combine. This was after another sunshine pumper had stated that he was declared a winner in the combines.


Also remember some sunshine pumpers claiming Lynch was going to be first QB taken and maybe top five pick over all. Even though my position was after the poor bowl game that he will be at least mid pack and maybe late in first round.


Now tell me again who was right and who was wrong?

Just because i missed one new rule change does not change the fact that my evaluation of both the players was correct and the sunshine pumper were wrong AGAIN.

ALSO most likely if you had not of clicked the link on the Draftexpress page most would not have known about rule change either.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/How-...eams-5413/

The rule change is exactly why Calipari has said he will encourage all of his players to declare every year. In doing so, they get NBA level coaching and evaluation that will benefit them regardless of their decision to leave or return to school. No one expects Marcus Lee to remain in the draft, but he now knows what to work on next season. You gotta work the system as it is written. I only hope we return to a level of play and players that will afford us the opportunity to play the system in the same way.

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.


"Dedric Lawson: .............Going back to school and spending a few years under Tubby Smith is likely his only real option right now. Considering he's just 18-years old, that's certainly not the end of the world. "

Once again, you're wrong. Rule was changed. He can declare the next 3 years, tryout and withdraw.

What's the downside?

He's supposed to a college freshman THIS year. Plenty of time to physically mature.

Glass half (mostly) full. Great talent, got feedback on what to improve, likely will do it in front of adoring fans at home. 2-3 years to play himself into a first round pick. Worst case is he destroys eurobasket for a bit.

Many people here would trade with Dedric, he's got a bright future.

(05-16-2016 06:20 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 05:06 PM)jgardne Wrote:  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Unde...ings-5482/


http://www.nbadraft.net/2016-nba-draft-c...t-analysis

I'd say coming back is probably his plan at this point. Cue penny lane and all the other resident player evaluation experts who didn't see how someone like Lawson isn't a lock first round pick to say these evaluations are biased

Good news for the Tigers next year. Hopefully Dedric can get some real feedback now (unlike what he'd get from pastner/dad) and get to work on some things

Worst part is everyone except for the sunshine pumpers knew he was not ready. But he wasted a chance to test the waters. Now if he declares again he is gone and if he still is not ready for NBA he will be having to learn a foreign language. Should have never tried it after this season, waited and test the waters next season. Then if he was still not ready he would still have the option to come back.


"Dedric Lawson: .............Going back to school and spending a few years under Tubby Smith is likely his only real option right now. Considering he's just 18-years old, that's certainly not the end of the world. "

I hope you keep up with Nascar rules better than other sports

(05-16-2016 11:34 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  He's supposed to a college freshman THIS year. Plenty of time to physically mature.

Glass half (mostly) full. Great talent, got feedback on what to improve, likely will do it in front of adoring fans at home. 2-3 years to play himself into a first round pick. Worst case is he destroys eurobasket for a bit.

Many people here would trade with Dedric, he's got a bright future.

Typical overreaction to a bad combine showing. Dedric's last year here is next year and he will move on to NBA barring injury. He is very skilled and needs to work on his weaknesses. If he does that, he will be a first rounder next year IMO.

I'm a huge NBA fan and see this happen a lot. His age and shooting range coupled with his size will get him there. Must work on footwork to improve defense. Footwork will defeat speed many times.

Lawson's "performance" at the combine is just another glaring indication of the ineptitude of our previous coach. I truly feel sorry for the kid. He received absolutely NO coaching from Pastner. Hindsight is 20/20 but honestly, several posters here like shere khan, mimi, gray avenger, missj should be 'prostrating' themselves before us all, begging for our forgiveness.

I thought his Dad coached him up for a few years.