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WMU fans in a post Graham Couch/David Drew world...
Hi Fans... hope you're all having a great Spring!

Bear with me on this... I'll try to make it brief

In writing about the Detroit Tigers (and their current woes) Chris McCosky, of the Det News spelled out perfectly why Bronco fans are gonna long for the days of Graham Couch and David Drew. They were good, honest reporters who wrote what they saw.

Whether you agreed with them or not, Couch and DD weren't opinion writers and they weren't stenographers -- they were seasoned, dedicated REPORTERS first and foremost.

They traveled with the team, talked to the team members -- got to know them, their families -- everyone's likes and dislikes -- simply put, they covered their beat! And covered it well!

Memo to MLive... you can't cover Western (or any athletic team or school) in hit and run fashion.

MLive is promoting Justin Dacey as a sports reporter for the Kalamazoo Gazette... but his articles on Bronco sports have been few and very far between. The Gazette apparently feels it can get more clicks from high school sports fans.

What I've singled out in bold in McCosky's article below proves my point -- you have to actually cover a team to report on it accurately (even if it means writing articles that fans might not like -- at least those articles would be based on facts and interviews, not AP wire copy spit out by a computer in New York.

It takes a committed reporter and a committed news organization to cover a sport team -- or a University's athletics program.

MLive's commitment to WMU is gone... coverage of football, basketball (men's and women's) and hockey will be spotty at best -- and (perhaps more importantly) there's no oversight of the multi-million dollar department.

It's despicable and pains me dearly.

MLive -- your actions are deplorable.

I used to be a loyal reader -- I just can't any more.

Journalism, I miss you.


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McCosky: Ausmus is the least of the Tigers’ problems
Chris McCosky, The Detroit News 2:03 p.m. EDT May 9, 2016

Washington, D.C. — Love it when I hear this:

“Chris, when will you have the guts to write that (Tigers manager Brad) Ausmus should be fired?”

Guts? The easiest sports column to write in Detroit on Sunday was that the Tigers needed to fire the manager. Given that’s been the prevailing sentiment among the more vociferous segment of the fan base for over a year, that angle wasn’t even the low-hanging fruit. It was already on the ground rotting, waiting to be picked up.

Especially for non-traveling media on a getaway Sunday when the team will be gone for the next seven days. It’s a sniper attack. A hit-and-run.

No, sorry. The only courage I need is the courage of my convictions. And it is my conviction — based on talking to players, talking to scouts inside and outside the organization, and talking to Ausmus and watching him go about his business nearly every day for the last two-plus years — that he is the least of this team’s problems.

In fact, I can’t for the life of me see how he is a problem at all.

I will wait for the lunatic fringe to stop howling and calling me a shill. Never mind, that’s not going to stop. Ever.

If you think the Tigers’ inconsistencies are a product of mismanagement, I beg you to give me concrete examples.

Here’s what I hear from people:

“He’s got that deer-in-the-headlights look.”

“He’s a California surfer boy; too laid back to fire up the team.”

“He’s an Ivy League snob, thinks he knows everything.”

When Justin Upton was struggling hitting second: “Why doesn’t Ausmus change the lineup?”

When J.D. Martinez was struggling hitting second: “Why doesn’t Ausmus get J.D. out of two-hole, what is he doing?”

When the bullpen fails: “Why did he take out the starting pitcher?”

When the starter fails: “Why did he wait so long to go to the bullpen?”

If a bunt fails? “What’s he doing having him bunt? Giving away outs.”

When no bunt is called and the batter hits into an inning-ended double play: “He’s gotta bunt there.”

It just doesn’t stop.

A large majority see Ausmus’ calm, stoic demeanor in the dugout and assume there’s no fire inside him. I can assure you, this guy’s competitiveness burns intensely. If you think he doesn’t blow up at his players occasionally, you are dead wrong. He just doesn’t think it serves any purpose to do it publicly, in the dugout or on the field.

He’s right. You want a calm hand at the helm, especially in stormy weather. You don’t want a manager who’s running around the dugout like his butt’s on fire every time something goes bad in a game.

I just can’t see this any other way. To blame Ausmus for what we are seeing through 30 games this season is wrong. And to agree with that and still advocate for his termination because “something needs to change” — well, that’s just fence-sitting, patronizing an angry fan base. And wrong.

Ausmus is not coaching a high school team. He’s not coaching a group of young, unproven players. This is a veteran team, an expensive team and those high-priced players, the vast majority of them, are under-performing.

That’s really it. It doesn’t have to be anything more sinister than that.

For stretches the starting pitching has been bad, while the bullpen was good. Lately, the bullpen has blown up. The hitting has been maddeningly inconsistent with the exception of Ian Kinsler and Nick Castellanos.

The heart of the order — J.D. Martinez, Miguel Cabrera, Victor Martinez and Justin Upton — has not been nearly as productive as it has to be for this team to win consistently.

What would you like Ausmus to do about that? Bench them? Fans howled when he gave Cabrera a much-needed day off — which he responded to by going 4-for-4 with two home runs the next day.

If those guys don’t hit, there’s no manager in the history of the game that could win with this team.

And to their credit, the players own up to this. They will tell anyone who asks, they are the problem, not management.

They know how hard the manager and his staff worked to prepare them for the season, and they don’t feel they are going into a game at a competitive disadvantage from a coaching standpoint.

It’s not like Ausmus just rolled out the balls and bats in spring training and turned them loose. Trust me, it was an intense spring training.

Case in point: I can’t imagine any team in baseball worked any harder on improving its base running than the Tigers did this spring. Just about every day, even during the Grapefruit League season, Ausmus, Omar Vizquel, Alan Trammell and, later, Kirk Gibson, would be on a field working with a group of base runners. Gibson worked with some of the players individually, as well.

And yet, early in the season the Tigers continue to make base running mistakes.

And on Twitter I will hear, “Why doesn’t the manager ever work on this stuff?”

At some point, the accountability has to be on the players. These are highly-paid, experienced professionals.

Also, it’s not like the Tigers are being out-schemed or out-analyzed. The organization, thanks to general manager Al Avila’s initiatives, are no longer behind the curve in terms of analytics and Ausmus is very adept at sifting through and paring down the data to make it useful and not overwhelming to the players.

The Tigers, a strong right-handed hitting team, haven’t been beaten by five left-handed starters this season because they didn’t have all the relevant video and data on them. They aren’t getting fooled by breaking balls out of the zone because they weren’t aware that was the pitcher’s tendency.

Listen, if I truly thought Ausmus was in over his head as a manager, I would be the first to advocate for a change.

If I thought he was dispassionate, disinterested or just going through the motions of his job, I would advocate for a change.

If I saw a disconnection between the manager and his players. I would certainly advocate for a change. If I saw any sign that the players disrespected the manager, I would advocate for a change.


You will say, “Oh, the players aren’t going to tell you.” Some will. And you don’t always need to be told. I’ve covered every sports team in Detroit at this newspaper for more than two decades. I feel like I have a good sense of when a coach has lost his team.

None of that is the case. It wasn’t the case last year and it hasn’t been the case so far this year.

So if it makes me gutless to put the onus and accountability on the players, so be it.

If it makes me a shill to report things as accurately, fairly and objectively as possible, so be it.

Journalistically, my conscience is clear.

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I agree with every thing you and McCosky said.. but fact of the matter is that MLive doesn't care because the articles don't get clicks, traffic, $$$. Not enough Bronco fans out there. Plus, you can get your news elsewhere if you follow the correct people on twitter (coaches, players, staff, etc.).
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Rest assured if MSU weren't in Lansing and Gannett didn't own them, the LSJ and Couch would be in the same boat as Drews and the Gazette. The Gazette was part of the wrong syndication group (Booth) and is sinking along with them. The Battle Creek Enquirer is a terrible paper, not even close to the quality that the Gazette once was. But luckily for them they are owned by Knight Ridder/McClachey an organization, that like Gannet has weathered the Internet/hard copy transition.

The best hope for the Gazette is if Booth is forced to unload them and one of the more conventional news organizations buys them.
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^ What he said.
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IMO, Couch is an opinion writer (i.e. huge homer) these days. Especially now covering MSU. Great writer, smart guy, but it's gotten pretty bad with MSU IMO.

I don't view Dacey's position any differently than I viewed Drew's. Very few resources (compared to say 10 years ago), not great access, does the best he can with what he's given. Is what it is.
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(05-10-2016 08:06 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  IMO, Couch is an opinion writer (i.e. huge homer) these days. Especially now covering MSU. Great writer, smart guy, but it's gotten pretty bad with MSU IMO.

I don't view Dacey's position any differently than I viewed Drew's. Very few resources (compared to say 10 years ago), not great access, does the best he can with what he's given. Is what it is.

Agree 100% on Graham.

Great guy, and a good writer, but he has become little more than an appendage of the MSU Sports Information Office.

Also, he let the Lansing mayor's office spin him like a top with an article on the Lansing marathon several years ago. He didn't take the time to confirm information his sources provided or explore their motive$ for initiating a story.

In Graham's defense, there are few good jobs in journalism anymore. Sometimes you have to play politics to keep the paychecks coming. The Lansing State Journal, in general, has become little more than "The State News West" with its slappy-style coverage of MSU. It is not just Graham who doesn't bother to dig into, or question, anything MSU initiates.

It is a tough business to make a living in these days.
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(05-09-2016 08:16 PM)Nacho Wrote:  Plus, you can get your news elsewhere if you follow the correct people on twitter (coaches, players, staff, etc.).

Yeah, completely unbiased and unfiltered!

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(05-09-2016 08:44 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Rest assured if MSU weren't in Lansing and Gannett didn't own them, the LSJ and Couch would be in the same boat as Drews and the Gazette. The Gazette was part of the wrong syndication group (Booth) and is sinking along with them.

I think I get what you are saying here, but Gannett papers are notoriously crappy. I don't think I've ever met a happy Gannett employee, other than VPs and the CEO.
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(05-10-2016 09:35 AM)GullLake Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 08:06 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  IMO, Couch is an opinion writer (i.e. huge homer) these days. Especially now covering MSU. Great writer, smart guy, but it's gotten pretty bad with MSU IMO.

I don't view Dacey's position any differently than I viewed Drew's. Very few resources (compared to say 10 years ago), not great access, does the best he can with what he's given. Is what it is.

Agree 100% on Graham.

Great guy, and a good writer, but he has become little more than an appendage of the MSU Sports Information Office.

Also, he let the Lansing mayor's office spin him like a top with an article on the Lansing marathon several years ago. He didn't take the time to confirm information his sources provided or explore their motive$ for initiating a story.

In Graham's defense, there are few good jobs in journalism anymore. Sometimes you have to play politics to keep the paychecks coming. The Lansing State Journal, in general, has become little more than "The State News West" with its slappy-style coverage of MSU. It is not just Graham who doesn't bother to dig into, or question, anything MSU initiates.

It is a tough business to make a living in these days.

I don't read Graham, but I do know Jeff Moss has been killing him lately on being a Connor Cook apologist and pom pom waiver.

The problem with long time college beat reporters (and sports reporters in general) is that they all get too close to the programs they cover. And it's natural, after you develop "relationships" with these guys, you can't and don't want to pi55 all over them publicly because you might actually care about them and you can't risk losing access. The schools are always much more powerful than the reporters. Steve Spurrier is notorious for having run columnists in the past because he simply didn't like them.

Sports reporting is a really, really tough gig.
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(05-10-2016 01:53 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 09:35 AM)GullLake Wrote:  
(05-10-2016 08:06 AM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  IMO, Couch is an opinion writer (i.e. huge homer) these days. Especially now covering MSU. Great writer, smart guy, but it's gotten pretty bad with MSU IMO.

I don't view Dacey's position any differently than I viewed Drew's. Very few resources (compared to say 10 years ago), not great access, does the best he can with what he's given. Is what it is.

Agree 100% on Graham.

Great guy, and a good writer, but he has become little more than an appendage of the MSU Sports Information Office.

Also, he let the Lansing mayor's office spin him like a top with an article on the Lansing marathon several years ago. He didn't take the time to confirm information his sources provided or explore their motive$ for initiating a story.

In Graham's defense, there are few good jobs in journalism anymore. Sometimes you have to play politics to keep the paychecks coming. The Lansing State Journal, in general, has become little more than "The State News West" with its slappy-style coverage of MSU. It is not just Graham who doesn't bother to dig into, or question, anything MSU initiates.

It is a tough business to make a living in these days.

I don't read Graham, but I do know Jeff Moss has been killing him lately on being a Connor Cook apologist and pom pom waiver.

The problem with long time college beat reporters (and sports reporters in general) is that they all get too close to the programs they cover. And it's natural, after you develop "relationships" with these guys, you can't and don't want to pi55 all over them publicly because you might actually care about them and you can't risk losing access. The schools are always much more powerful than the reporters. Steve Spurrier is notorious for having run columnists in the past because he simply didn't like them.

Sports reporting is a really, really tough gig.

Got that right, Charm.

And unlike when Spurrier was at U-F, there are fewer places for a sports reporter to go for a decent job now. Not many decent jobs available.
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Back in the "old days," you'd do the beat for say five years or so, then they'd transition you to another beat within sports or maybe within the paper somewhere. Now, obviously, a lot of those jobs are gone, so many papers simply don't have that option. Of course, there are still reporters who get off on the whole going to games and working big games and stuff like that and they don't want to give it up. But then they get close to the program and it's tough to shake.
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I'm just sitting tight and waiting for President Trump to bring these jobs back. Make bronco beat coverage great again.
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(05-13-2016 07:14 AM)Liam9903 Wrote:  I'm just sitting tight and waiting for President Trump to bring these jobs back. Make bronco beat coverage great again.

At least my other uncle Donald isn't a BUM like Obama, guy was a janitor then they cleaned him up and ran him for Senate. 03-drunk
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Says the douche named DiaperHead69
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(05-13-2016 07:14 AM)Liam9903 Wrote:  I'm just sitting tight and waiting for President Trump to bring these jobs back. Make bronco beat coverage great again.

This is about a failed business model that has no competition.

A good blogger or even Broncoblitz could be the go to news site for WMU sports. It would take some work, but it wouldn't be to hard to gain access and to build a following.

In the age of blogging, streaming video, and podcasting anambicious young journalist could start something. Hondo Carpenter started similarly at MSU and makes a living doing it.
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Does Hondo Carpenter travel to away games? Does he really "cover" the Spartans? Or his he just using social media to comment on what the journalists actually covering Spartan athletics are writing about? Just curious... missing real journalism.
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(05-15-2016 09:15 AM)anthonybronco Wrote:  Does Hondo Carpenter travel to away games? Does he really "cover" the Spartans? Or his he just using social media to comment on what the journalists actually covering Spartan athletics are writing about? Just curious... missing real journalism.

He's an independent contractor, does it on his dime.
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You didn't answer his question. And so what? Being an independent contractor is just a tax status. Uber drivers and newspaper delivery people are independent contractors.
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Hondo doesn't need to travel. He has better sources inside (and outside) that program than anyone does. Nobody knows that program better IMO. Heck he's even got better sources inside our program than any of the media here in Kalamazoo.
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On the other hand if this site is a barometer of the interest in Bronco sports, maybe the Gazette has it right.
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