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Tiger5 Offline
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Who should get priority?
If TSF is going own spots on Tiger Lane and prioritze based on TSF donation are there other factors for priotity?

Fan A: Buys 8 season ticketsto football, baseball, and woman's basketball costing around $2,000

Fan B: Donates $1,000 to TSF and buys 2 football season tickets. Total spent around $1,500

Which fan has greater priority for a spot on Tiger Lane?
04-30-2016 11:39 AM
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RE: Who should get priority?
I would probably say the one with the $1000 donation to TSF would get the better Tiger Lane spot. That's what is worrying me, because even if you have had a Tiger Lane spot, you aren't guaranteed the same spot each year. It depends on your TSF donation as to which spot you get.
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RE: Who should get priority?
My understanding when we first got the spots is that they were ours year in and year out as long as we paid for them, that we would not lose it, why else buy a spot if you are going to be a vagabond every year. Note to Tiger Lane, the best spots for tailgating aren't really on Tiger Lane imo. What make Tiger Lane attractive is the activities and crowds, but as far as locations, there are several others that I like in the general parking area and I have been on Tiger Lane since it opened.
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RE: Who should get priority?
Which one gives better $100 hand shakes?
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RE: Who should get priority?
If you want to be big time, you have to pay. Period end of story.
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RE: Who should get priority?
(04-30-2016 12:25 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  If you want to be big time, you have to pay. Period end of story.

I get it but I'd argue Fan A example should get priority since total money spent is more.
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RE: Who should get priority?
My concern isn't how it's determined, my concern is will the rich guys show up and tailgate for every game not just the select couple each year. Tigerlane has grown to be a great event, due to folks showing up and providing a good time to many, these folks are the ones that have made Tigelane.
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RE: Who should get priority?
Another scenario : A has had football season tickets (6-11 depending on year) since 1982 and 4-6 LL basketball season tickets since 1976. Gives required donation for BB season tickets. Spends close to $12-15K a year for last 20 years or so of 39 years until he retires and cuts back to two season BB tickets and moves from visitors 50 yard line to other side in FB to be with friends. So around $3K a year in retirement to TSF and tickets.

B: never had anything; comes in with $5k for basketball donation and gets two season tickets in his first year.

Who should have priority for a PARKING SPOT at football game NOT on Tiger Lane. C lot ( one closer to Blue lot)

This is a real situation. Please give me your answer if you were running athletic dept.
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Who should get priority?
Bottom line - Money talks
05-03-2016 09:52 PM
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RE: Who should get priority?
(04-30-2016 11:39 AM)Tiger5 Wrote:  If TSF is going own spots on Tiger Lane and prioritze based on TSF donation are there other factors for priotity?

Fan A: Buys 8 season ticketsto football, baseball, and woman's basketball costing around $2,000

Fan B: Donates $1,000 to TSF and buys 2 football season tickets. Total spent around $1,500

Which fan has greater priority for a spot on Tiger Lane?

Here is your answer as to who will:

Despite being a top 10% donor, I asked for only TWO favors in my 30 some odd years of dealing with Tiger athletic dept/TSF. Both very minor; one that was rejected because I was told that someone coming into TSF for their very FIRST year with a higher donation than mine would get priority over me despite my many years of loyalty: and buying (and paying required donations) anywhere between 4-17 combined FB & BB seasons tickets per year for over approx. 35 years. This rejection was over a parking spot a good ways from our Tiger Lane spot (not in my name).

I was rejected by my assigned rep from TSF. In disbelief, I contacted Bowen who said yes, the new system was set up that way to get new donors at higher levels to generate more TSF revenue no matter how many TSF points, years of going to every home game and nearly every conference tournament, buying many season tickets, etc. This was so the athletic dept could generate "new revenue". Needless to say, I was not happy. Who among you would have been? To discard a great low maintenance customer over such a trivial matter. One reason I think our athletic dept is mismanaged and everyone knows the Ticket office is a joke.

And, in a related matter with TSF, I agreed to settle for lesser seats FOR TWO OF THREE BB reseatings IN A ROW when they make "mistakes" at said reseatings. Bill Lansden did get my Forum parking pass back (same situation there-higher new donors get priority over long time donors). I actually went down and selected "open" seats and was called and said there was a mistake and those seats were sold! TWICE. They even wrote out the seats I selected on the form they give you at reseating.

I know of other older donors who may have dropped to $2,500 per year in donation level and had the same kind of problems. They just quit buying and going.
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RE: Who should get priority?
(04-30-2016 12:25 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  If you want to be big time, you have to pay. Period end of story.

No you have to pay more and BE A NEW DONOR. A $5k new donor who only buys 2 BB season tickets GETS priority over a $2,500 donor who has given that amount (or much more) for twenty years in a row and bought as many as 17 combined BB and FB season tickets. It's a horrible system and Bowen put it in place.
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RE: Who should get priority?
No, you don't have to be a new donor, just a higher donor. They get priority.

If you find a place anywhere else that operates the way you are saying you believe it should be, I would like to know where it is. I know for a fact that it is exactly the same way at one ACC school. Whoever donates the most gets the highest perks, regardless of seniority.
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Who should get priority?
(04-30-2016 11:39 AM)Tiger5 Wrote:  If TSF is going own spots on Tiger Lane and prioritze based on TSF donation are there other factors for priotity?

Fan A: Buys 8 season ticketsto football, baseball, and woman's basketball costing around $2,000

Fan B: Donates $1,000 to TSF and buys 2 football season tickets. Total spent around $1,500

Which fan has greater priority for a spot on Tiger Lane?

Depends on what the amount is for the TSF required donations on each season ticket.
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(05-03-2016 11:03 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  No, you don't have to be a new donor, just a higher donor. They get priority.

If you find a place anywhere else that operates the way you are saying you believe it should be, I would like to know where it is. I know for a fact that it is exactly the same way at one ACC school. Whoever donates the most gets the highest perks, regardless of seniority.

Not at Bama, UT. Points system based on historical giving and purchase of season tickets, alum, buying postseason, etc. In what universe is it right or fair when I've given over $150k cash and bought that many tickets for 35 years and another person who has never done anything but contribute $5k for current season and bought 2 BB season tickets should get priority over me?

That is not COMMON in athletic departments.
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RE: Who should get priority?
If the conversation is revolved around Tiger Lane and not necessarily basketball, you do realize that this is all about 100 (approximately) spots on TL that the city once controlled? The agreement with the Liberty Bowl this year gave control to the University (through the TSF) for those additional spots.

How the TSF will determine who will get the chance to purchase those spots is up to them since they now own them via the Liberty Bowl.

Just re-enforces the fact that you may have been better off purchasing your spot in the beginning by being a member of the Highland Hundred which, by agreement, has the rights to the majority of spaces on Tiger Lane.
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(04-30-2016 01:00 PM)Tiger5 Wrote:  
(04-30-2016 12:25 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  If you want to be big time, you have to pay. Period end of story.

I get it but I'd argue Fan A example should get priority since total money spent is more.

Donations are not the same as 'ticket purchases'.
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(05-03-2016 11:28 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 11:03 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  No, you don't have to be a new donor, just a higher donor. They get priority.

If you find a place anywhere else that operates the way you are saying you believe it should be, I would like to know where it is. I know for a fact that it is exactly the same way at one ACC school. Whoever donates the most gets the highest perks, regardless of seniority.

Not at Bama, UT. Points system based on historical giving and purchase of season tickets, alum, buying postseason, etc. In what universe is it right or fair when I've given over $150k cash and bought that many tickets for 35 years and another person who has never done anything but contribute $5k for current season and bought 2 BB season tickets should get priority over me?

That is not COMMON in athletic departments.

I kind of like the new system just because it pisses you off and makes for good board entertainment.
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(05-03-2016 10:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(04-30-2016 12:25 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  If you want to be big time, you have to pay. Period end of story.

No you have to pay more and BE A NEW DONOR. A $5k new donor who only buys 2 BB season tickets GETS priority over a $2,500 donor who has given that amount (or much more) for twenty years in a row and bought as many as 17 combined BB and FB season tickets. It's a horrible system and Bowen put it in place.

That's the way it is now. The cable companies showed us the way. Give stuff to new customers and then screw them in 3 years
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(05-04-2016 08:47 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(05-03-2016 10:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  
(04-30-2016 12:25 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  If you want to be big time, you have to pay. Period end of story.

No you have to pay more and BE A NEW DONOR. A $5k new donor who only buys 2 BB season tickets GETS priority over a $2,500 donor who has given that amount (or much more) for twenty years in a row and bought as many as 17 combined BB and FB season tickets. It's a horrible system and Bowen put it in place.

That's the way it is now. The cable companies showed us the way. Give stuff to new customers and then screw them in 3 years

Touche'
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(05-04-2016 05:42 AM)juggoman Wrote:  If the conversation is revolved around Tiger Lane and not necessarily basketball, you do realize that this is all about 100 (approximately) spots on TL that the city once controlled? The agreement with the Liberty Bowl this year gave control to the University (through the TSF) for those additional spots.

How the TSF will determine who will get the chance to purchase those spots is up to them since they now own them via the Liberty Bowl.

Just re-enforces the fact that you may have been better off purchasing your spot in the beginning by being a member of the Highland Hundred which, by agreement, has the rights to the majority of spaces on Tiger Lane.

Not if HH doesn't start paying insurance premiums on them-the University will take them over.
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