Is it too much to ask that he and his staff go recruit a couple of bodies for this upcoming season?

(04-30-2016 02:11 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  You can't run the Derby with a mule

But you can't qualify for the derby with an untrained thoroughbred either.

(04-30-2016 03:08 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  Is it too much to ask that he and his staff go recruit a couple of bodies for this upcoming season?

No but it is a little unreasonable to expect him to have those commits in the 1st 3wks of taking the job. Tubby no more has the job & some of you guys have already closed the book on him as a failure.

(04-30-2016 02:11 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  You can't run the Derby with a mule

Unless you're Gregg Marshall.

Tubby is coming into a mess here, the letter says we made the right hire, now let's give the Dude a chance and I doubt he ducks competition

(04-30-2016 05:45 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 02:11 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  You can't run the Derby with a mule

Unless you're Gregg Marshall.

It took Marshall six years to win an NCAA game at Wichita St. Because we know he is a terrific coach, the lack of favorible results rested with the quality and type of players.

Tubby is a coach with HOF credentials. Like Marshall, it will take time for Tubby to land the players he needs for success. Will reputed Tiger fans grant him the time? I doubt it.

(04-30-2016 06:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 05:45 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 02:11 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  You can't run the Derby with a mule

Unless you're Gregg Marshall.

It took Marshall six years to win an NCAA game at Wichita St. Because we know he is a terrific coach, the lack of favorible results rested with the quality and type of players.

Tubby is a coach with HOF credentials. Like Marshall, it will take time for Tubby to land the players he needs for success. Will reputed Tiger fans grant him the time? I doubt it.

This post is so asinine I don't even have to say why.

(04-30-2016 02:41 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  I don't think it will be a far stretch for him to land better talent at Memphis than he did at any other stretch other than ky.

While I agree that the Championship teams are usually filled with 5* players, not all of them have been. There have also been very successful runs with teams without a major recruit in them. I think Memphis should be a blend of both. A couple of major players to go along with a stable of coachable talent that he gets the best out of their ability.

Villanova had one with half a dozen 4-stars. We could've had one with nine 4-stars next season, but we had a coach who put way more stock in getting ranked players than anything else. So, as it is, we only have four 4-stars returning.

Here's the rest of our league's picture for next year:

UConn - one 5-star, two 4-stars returning, bringing in three more
Cincinnati - two 4-stars returning, bringing in one more
SMU - one 4-star returning, bringing in two more
USF - bringing in one 4-star
Everybody else - N/A

So, even with what we have, on paper, we're better than anybody but UConn. I'm not expecting to be competing for a national championship in the next year or two, but what I am expecting is to be competitive against equal talent. I think a lot of people will be happy with that. I think a lot of conference mates won't be.

(04-29-2016 09:59 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 09:53 PM)former guest Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 09:49 PM)tom82 Wrote:  

(04-29-2016 08:03 PM)former guest Wrote:  From the video on Tubby's first day, where he met the returning players, I bet it really did bother him with the sitting handshakes he received from the team upon his entrance to the room. I guess he knows he has some work to do in the respect department with this group.

I am so glad to have an adult back in charge of things. He is just what we need around here, in spite of what the moron miserables say.

Where can I find the video of the players sitting while shaking Tubby's hand? I've got to see the depths to which Josh sunk us.....

You might find it on the gotigersgo.com website. Or if you are better at using the search function on the board here, it was linked in the thread about Tubby's first day on the job I think.... I'll see if I can have any luck with finding it, but don't count on it.

starts at the 55 sec mark

So, these kids not standing to shake hands with, not only an adult, but their new coach reflects badly on Josh?!? Could it possibly be how they were raised? Some of you guys... I just don't know.

(04-30-2016 07:44 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 02:41 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  I don't think it will be a far stretch for him to land better talent at Memphis than he did at any other stretch other than ky.

While I agree that the Championship teams are usually filled with 5* players, not all of them have been. There have also been very successful runs with teams without a major recruit in them. I think Memphis should be a blend of both. A couple of major players to go along with a stable of coachable talent that he gets the best out of their ability.

Villanova had one with half a dozen 4-stars. We could've had one with nine 4-stars next season, but we had a coach who put way more stock in getting ranked players than anything else. So, as it is, we only have four 4-stars returning.

Here's the rest of our league's picture for next year:

UConn - one 5-star, two 4-stars returning, bringing in three more
Cincinnati - two 4-stars returning, bringing in one more
SMU - one 4-star returning, bringing in two more
USF - bringing in one 4-star
Everybody else - N/A

So, even with what we have, on paper, we're better than anybody but UConn. I'm not expecting to be competing for a national championship in the next year or two, but what I am expecting is to be competitive against equal talent. I think a lot of people will be happy with that. I think a lot of conference mates won't be.

If paper ratings won games, JP would probably be working on another roll-over contract at Memphis.

If having the HORSES IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT,
WHY DOES CALIPARI ONLY HAVE ONE CHAMPIONSHIP?

BECAUSE, HE CAN'T COACH.

THINK MY PEOPLE!

The BEST TEAM WITH THE BEST PLAYERS DOESN'T ALWAYS WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

IT IS THE TEAM THAT PLAYS THE BEST.

(04-30-2016 09:22 PM)tiger-tug Wrote:  The BEST TEAM WITH THE BEST PLAYERS DOESN'T ALWAYS WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

IT IS THE TEAM THAT PLAYS THE BEST.

i agree, but national champhinships are not won by teams with significantly less talent. coach k, jay wright, jim calhoun etc will not win a nc with a team composed of talent from a low major team. talent level is the most important factor among many factors for success. it is the reason schools spend immense treasure and time on recruiting.

(04-30-2016 09:20 PM)tiger-tug Wrote:  If having the HORSES IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT,
WHY DOES CALIPARI ONLY HAVE ONE CHAMPIONSHIP?

BECAUSE, HE CAN'T COACH.

THINK MY PEOPLE!

HIS ARE MOSTLY FRESHMEN!! Duh!!!

(04-30-2016 10:50 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 09:20 PM)tiger-tug Wrote:  If having the HORSES IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT,
WHY DOES CALIPARI ONLY HAVE ONE CHAMPIONSHIP?

BECAUSE, HE CAN'T COACH.

THINK MY PEOPLE!

HIS ARE MOSTLY FRESHMEN!! Duh!!!

Who are a few months from the NBA.

(05-01-2016 12:06 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 10:50 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 09:20 PM)tiger-tug Wrote:  If having the HORSES IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT,
WHY DOES CALIPARI ONLY HAVE ONE CHAMPIONSHIP?

BECAUSE, HE CAN'T COACH.

THINK MY PEOPLE!

HIS ARE MOSTLY FRESHMEN!! Duh!!!

Who are a few months from the NBA.

And what might that have to do with taking a team of 4-5 freshman and playing a veteran laden Nova type team that is pretty good and experienced along with having been to tourney a few times? UConn was another good example of that type of team. Not the most talented but hit a run.

(05-01-2016 12:10 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-01-2016 12:06 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 10:50 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 09:20 PM)tiger-tug Wrote:  If having the HORSES IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT,
WHY DOES CALIPARI ONLY HAVE ONE CHAMPIONSHIP?

BECAUSE, HE CAN'T COACH.

THINK MY PEOPLE!

HIS ARE MOSTLY FRESHMEN!! Duh!!!

Who are a few months from the NBA.

And what might that have to do with taking a team of 4-5 freshman and playing a veteran laden Nova type team that is pretty good and experienced along with having been to tourney a few times? UConn was another good example of that type of team. Not the most talented but hit a run.

That Villanova team you referenced only had 1 top 50 recruit the last 3 seasons.

It's a little early to be the judge, jury, and executioner of Tubby's success at Memphis.

(04-30-2016 09:02 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 07:44 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  Villanova had one with half a dozen 4-stars. We could've had one with nine 4-stars next season, but we had a coach who put way more stock in getting ranked players than anything else. So, as it is, we only have four 4-stars returning.

Here's the rest of our league's picture for next year:

UConn - one 5-star, two 4-stars returning, bringing in three more
Cincinnati - two 4-stars returning, bringing in one more
SMU - one 4-star returning, bringing in two more
USF - bringing in one 4-star
Everybody else - N/A

So, even with what we have, on paper, we're better than anybody but UConn. I'm not expecting to be competing for a national championship in the next year or two, but what I am expecting is to be competitive against equal talent. I think a lot of people will be happy with that. I think a lot of conference mates won't be.

If paper ratings won games, JP would probably be working on another roll-over contract at Memphis.

Lots of people can coach way better than they can recruit. That's almost always because of WHERE they coach. Pastner was the exact opposite, and the main reason he was able to recruit as well as he did is because of where he was.

Not many at the DI level who can't coach get a chance to prove it regularly in front of 16,000 people like Pastner did the first five years. So, I suspect "paper ratings" predict wins a lot more often than they don't for those reasons -- most coaches who can get highly ranked recruits can also coach.

(05-01-2016 06:53 AM)BigBlueTiger901 Wrote:  

(05-01-2016 12:10 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(05-01-2016 12:06 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 10:50 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-30-2016 09:20 PM)tiger-tug Wrote:  If having the HORSES IS SO DAMN IMPORTANT,
WHY DOES CALIPARI ONLY HAVE ONE CHAMPIONSHIP?

BECAUSE, HE CAN'T COACH.

THINK MY PEOPLE!

HIS ARE MOSTLY FRESHMEN!! Duh!!!

Who are a few months from the NBA.

And what might that have to do with taking a team of 4-5 freshman and playing a veteran laden Nova type team that is pretty good and experienced along with having been to tourney a few times? UConn was another good example of that type of team. Not the most talented but hit a run.

That Villanova team you referenced only had 1 top 50 recruit the last 3 seasons.

It's a little early to be the judge, jury, and executioner of Tubby's success at Memphis.

My point here had nothing to do with Tubby but the hate for Cal blinding the fact of his accomplishments with mostly freshmen. His choice but it has to be considered when evaluating success in winning NC. Maybe only coach who could win it all with 4 freshman starters.

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