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Looks like it's gonna be a long summer after all
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(04-24-2016 02:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 01:58 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  I'm just baffled that this is an issue. Isn't the point in basketball to win/get great recruits. Seems like Tubby just came here to secure his big final retirement check because he sure is not thinking like 99% of basketball coaches in this country. This is not an issue at other schools. It simply is not. You are happy to have top kids on your team. I just don't get it.

Rudd and Bowen are two idiots. I hope one day we can get local leadership here.

If Tubby wanted to sit around and retire, he could have done it at Texas Tech.

You have never been to Lubbock.
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Can we just let Tubby decide who he wants on his staff?

Jeezus
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(04-24-2016 02:08 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 02:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 01:58 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  I'm just baffled that this is an issue. Isn't the point in basketball to win/get great recruits. Seems like Tubby just came here to secure his big final retirement check because he sure is not thinking like 99% of basketball coaches in this country. This is not an issue at other schools. It simply is not. You are happy to have top kids on your team. I just don't get it.

Rudd and Bowen are two idiots. I hope one day we can get local leadership here.

If Tubby wanted to sit around and retire, he could have done it at Texas Tech.

Yeah...some of the idiocy being posted about Tubby taking this job as a retirement check is mind boggling.

Exactly. As if he's not interested in winning. A coach has to feel comfortable with the guys around him. If it doesn't match others' agenda, it's something we'll just have to live with. Maybe it'll cost the Tigers some wins, but he's a HOF coach and deserves the benefit of the doubt in whatever decisions he makes in putting his program together.
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RE: Tubby Smith’s decision on Lawson could have major impact on program
(04-24-2016 04:27 PM)Hoots Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 02:08 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 02:03 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 01:58 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  I'm just baffled that this is an issue. Isn't the point in basketball to win/get great recruits. Seems like Tubby just came here to secure his big final retirement check because he sure is not thinking like 99% of basketball coaches in this country. This is not an issue at other schools. It simply is not. You are happy to have top kids on your team. I just don't get it.

Rudd and Bowen are two idiots. I hope one day we can get local leadership here.

If Tubby wanted to sit around and retire, he could have done it at Texas Tech.

Yeah...some of the idiocy being posted about Tubby taking this job as a retirement check is mind boggling.

Exactly. As if he's not interested in winning. A coach has to feel comfortable with the guys around him. If it doesn't match others' agenda, it's something we'll just have to live with. Maybe it'll cost the Tigers some wins, but he's a HOF coach and deserves the benefit of the doubt in whatever decisions he makes in putting his program together.

I said the same thing about when Virginia Tech hired Fuente, but conditioned it on him keeping two of the guys on staff. The problem with that was that the old VTech staff was losing out on recruits recently, and now you are forcing the new guy to keep two of that staff. When signing day came around, let's just say the VTech fanbase was not very happy.

But, they cant blame Fuente for that. Not when you force him to hire people from the previous staff.

So our team's success is planted solely in the hands of Tubby, as it should be. If someone's dad is getting butthurt because he is not going to remain one of 3 AC's, when it appears that lacked the skills to be an AC, I have no problem with that.

If Keelon really wanted to be a Div I coach, he should hang around a champion coach and learn the ropes. If Tubby gets the team into the tournament next year, his AC's are going to be a hot commodity, and Keelon can prove he is AC material and move up at that point.

But if you cant run a practice, perform a scouting report, recruit other kids not named Lawson, or analyze film in order to develop a game strategy, well, that seems to be a big waste of an AC position. Makes it sound like the other two guys are going to get run to death making up for his deficiencies.
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We hired Tubby to be the Headcoach, everyone should let him do it his way. Administration shouldn't have given Keelon any false impressions, if that actually happened, to commit to him without the new HC on board.

Let the chips fall where they may.
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(04-24-2016 03:07 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Looks like it's gonna be a long summer after all
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If history serves me correctly, selling humans for money is called slavery.
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(04-24-2016 03:07 PM)JhanJo Wrote:  Tubby gets the blame if the program doesn't rebound in a reasonable period of time. Likewise gets the praise if the Tigers start winning and making the tournament. I think you have to let him pick and choose his assistants. As for his son, maybe he is a quality assistant. Coaches want and need assistants they trust. Who brings that to the table?

True. He'll get the blame if he doesn't turn it around here during his 5 year contract. Heck, he may not even get another job when he leaves at age 69 if he doesn't turn it around.
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He may not get 5 years.
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But what if Tubby hired a WWW guy or a guy who also is Connected to some National Recruits, would it really still matter as Long as he GETS talent and Wins...Hmmm.....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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Tubby needs to Focus On Alex Lomax, TJ Moss and Most impoortant DJ Jeffries who is better than Chandler Lawson Hands Down....DJ Jeffries could be the biggest Star to come out Since Penny before its all said and done....TrUeTh....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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(04-24-2016 05:29 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Tubby needs to Focus On Alex Lomax, TJ Moss and Most impoortant DJ Jeffries who is better than Chandler Lawson Hands Down....DJ Jeffries could be the biggest Star to come out Since Penny before its all said and done....TrUeTh....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis....

no mention of Chandler Lawson as a Tiger?
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I wonder if he knew every move would be scrutinized to this degree?

I wonder what percentage of the TT fanbase even knew they had a 3rd assistant, and who they were?
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(04-24-2016 05:27 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  But what if Tubby hired a WWW guy or a guy who also is Connected to some National Recruits, would it really still matter as Long as he GETS talent and Wins...Hmmm.....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis....

He was planning on hiring his son Saul-well known fact. Whether he still does remains to be seen.
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What Tubby should and Might do is Keep Keelon as a 3rd AC for a year then he should show him the door because at that Point Dedric will still be gone, KJ might too be gone, and It would still look good among some Memphis AAU, and by allowing Keelon one more year, he could Work on Lomax/ Moss/ and DJ Jeffries who is better than Chandler who he has Dominated everytime head to head.....TrUeTh.....Give Keelon one more year, then if he still can't run workouts or Film sessions you cut him loose....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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(04-24-2016 04:14 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  Can we just let Tubby decide who he wants on his staff?

Jeezus

We could, but what would we do with all this internet bandwidth we paid for?
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(04-24-2016 02:26 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  this place sure is interesting

that's one word for it
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(04-24-2016 12:53 PM)jgardne Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 11:50 AM)wylioats Wrote:  
(04-24-2016 09:20 AM)papajohn Wrote:  I have lost all respect for the Lawson clan (adults, not kids) for handling this in such a classless, public manner and for putting Tubby in this no-win situation so early in his tenure. I don't know what Tubby should do, and I would hate to lose the Lawson boys, but I am upset at the way the Lawson adults have chosen to approach this.

^^^^

How do you know the lawsons are at fault? you want to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who is trying to hire Saul smith, who has no ins with a recruit and is flagrant nepotism?

Other than Chuck Lawson saying it's so, how do you know it's Saul that Tubby is trying to replace Keelon with?
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(04-24-2016 01:58 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  I'm just baffled that this is an issue. Isn't the point in basketball to win/get great recruits. Seems like Tubby just came here to secure his big final retirement check because he sure is not thinking like 99% of basketball coaches in this country. This is not an issue at other schools. It simply is not. You are happy to have top kids on your team. I just don't get it.

Rudd and Bowen are two idiots. I hope one day we can get local leadership here.

Yea. Idiots who have:
Football at a historically successful level.
Football replacing a successful coach with the most sought after young newcomer in the market.
As close to P5 membership as we've ever been.
Got us out from under a terribly burdensome basketball contract.
Hired the most successful basketball coach we've ever hired.
Facilities as strong as they've ever been - with other things in the works.
Success in many other non-revenue sports.

Come to think of it, they're doing pretty well.
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