(04-12-2016 02:33 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 02:25 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 02:21 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 01:28 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 01:25 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  Yep. And if that's the case, 51 is not strong enough for an at-large bid from a mid major conference due to prob also lack of SOS.

CJ: what are your thoughts on what rpi is needed for a mid major to get an at large bid?

Anything lower than 40 is a shoe-in. 40-45 is beginning of the bubble, but likely still gets you in. 45-50 you will need to have some signature wins. 50+ is unlikely to get a mid-major in unless they have 40+ wins with some clear cut high-end victories and a solid SOS.

Pretty sure someone in the 30's got left out last year.

I could see that happening as there are multiple factors that go into the committee's selection, such as SOS, record in their last 10 or 15 games, record vs. RPI Top 50. If that team you speak of had a poor showing in any of those departments, it was likely the cause of being left out.

For instance, the Cajuns finished the regular season with a 49 RPI last year, and it was considered by many that we had a very small shot of getting an at-large bid due to our lack of quality wins vs. the RPI top 50. However, we won the Sun Belt Tourny so it ended up not mattering.

Baseball breaks down teams info a number of different RPI "bonus" wins/losses to establish a quality win or poor loss figure. Baseball also assigns a .7 home and 1.3 road factor to account for the difficulty of playing away from home. By in large, RPI is supposed to take the "homerism" out of the equation making it a numeric only exercise but it still doesn't always work out that way.

Softball tends to be more RPI centric which seems to happen much more in the top 16, but there area still some RPI 40-70 that leave you scratching your head.

(04-12-2016 09:20 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:44 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

Tell that one to our 2010 team, would you please?

According to the NCAA, your RPI for the 2010 season at selection time was 51st.

We were in the 40's (42/44 or something like that) until we lost the SLC tournament. Pundits had us hosting a Regional (we were very high in RPI most of that season) for a lot of that season but lost the tourney and sat home. Last team out or however you state that.

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Rice, while not a P5 team, is perennially a top 20 program. I'm guessing the RPI indicates that the teams the Cajuns played have significantly better records than TXST played.

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Pretty sure our SOS is 13th... Or it was recently...our OOC was 6th...Texas tech,TCU,rice,lsu,Tulane,SLU,USM, and go look at latech,mcneese st,UNO,NWST,Nicjols records and rpi's. Our coaches have learned how to schedule to take advantage of the system in place. To this point only NWST and uno have been at home. Maybe the coaches in the conference should talk to Robichaux about RPI and scheduling so the entire conference could help each other. You sound pretty bitter, either win more games or learn how to schedule better RPI opponents. Texas state has a lot more high RPI midweek chances than anyone else in the league.

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Haha, you are delusional. Take your "football" lenses off. P5 schools don't matter, good baseball schools matter. RPI takes into account your winning %, your opponents winning %, and your opponents' opponents' winning %. It is as close to an ideal formula as we can get to determining which teams in the country play the toughest schedules and how well they fare against those schedules.

Take a look at the Cajuns #23 Ranking vs. Texas State's #131 Ranking below. Notice anything that sticks out? How about Texas State record vs. RPI Top 50 compare to the Cajuns. Or the Cajuns record vs. RPI Top 100 compared to Texas State. How about Strength of Schedule? Not saying UL is the defacto #23 best team in the country, all I'm saying is the RPI is a good indication as to how strong your 21-11 record really is, as compared to the rest of the 21-11 records and the country.

(04-12-2016 03:42 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Rice, while not a P5 team, is perennially a top 20 program. I'm guessing the RPI indicates that the teams the Cajuns played have significantly better records than TXST played.

Yeah, Rice is a legit program and usually has a really good team that could compete at the highest level. Do you think their record would be as good if they were facing a MUCH harder conference schedule like the Big12 or SEC instead of CUSA? I would guess not. Would you then think wins against Rice should be valued less because they have a worse record facing teams like UT or South Carolina week in and week out? Do you think beating a 21-7-1 UC Santa Barbra is really more valuable at determining how good a team is than beating a 19-12 Oklahoma St.? This is why I have a problem with RPI, it's not completely flawed but I just haven't been convinced that it is a good way of ranking who is the best.

(04-12-2016 04:25 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Haha, you are delusional. Take your "football" lenses off. P5 schools don't matter, good baseball schools matter. RPI takes into account your winning %, your opponents winning %, and your opponents' opponents' winning %. It is as close to an ideal formula as we can get to determining which teams in the country play the toughest schedules and how well they fare against those schedules.

Take a look at the Cajuns #23 Ranking vs. Texas State's #131 Ranking below. Notice anything that sticks out? How about Texas State record vs. RPI Top 50 compare to the Cajuns. Or the Cajuns record vs. RPI Top 100 compared to Texas State. How about Strength of Schedule? Not saying UL is the defacto #23 best team in the country, all I'm saying is the RPI is a good indication as to how strong your 21-11 record really is, as compared to the rest of the 21-11 records and the country.

I have been called worse lol. Are you serious when you say that having the recruiting profile P5s enjoy is meaningless? Is that why G5 and FCS teams are always making deep runs and playing for NCAA tournament championships? Or is that an anomaly? Yeah, I'm the delusional one buddy. You must be right, beating FCS teams that beat other FCS teams makes you better than FBS teams winning slightly less games against other FBS teams.

(04-12-2016 05:07 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 04:25 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Haha, you are delusional. Take your "football" lenses off. P5 schools don't matter, good baseball schools matter. RPI takes into account your winning %, your opponents winning %, and your opponents' opponents' winning %. It is as close to an ideal formula as we can get to determining which teams in the country play the toughest schedules and how well they fare against those schedules.

Take a look at the Cajuns #23 Ranking vs. Texas State's #131 Ranking below. Notice anything that sticks out? How about Texas State record vs. RPI Top 50 compare to the Cajuns. Or the Cajuns record vs. RPI Top 100 compared to Texas State. How about Strength of Schedule? Not saying UL is the defacto #23 best team in the country, all I'm saying is the RPI is a good indication as to how strong your 21-11 record really is, as compared to the rest of the 21-11 records and the country.

I have been called worse lol. Are you serious when you say that having the recruiting profile P5s enjoy is meaningless? Is that why G5 and FCS teams are always making deep runs and playing for NCAA tournament championships? Or is that an anomaly? Yeah, I'm the delusional one buddy. You must be right, beating FCS teams that beat other FCS teams makes you better than FBS teams winning slightly less games against other FBS teams.

For starters, FCS doesn't exist in baseball.

(04-12-2016 05:10 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:07 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 04:25 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Haha, you are delusional. Take your "football" lenses off. P5 schools don't matter, good baseball schools matter. RPI takes into account your winning %, your opponents winning %, and your opponents' opponents' winning %. It is as close to an ideal formula as we can get to determining which teams in the country play the toughest schedules and how well they fare against those schedules.

Take a look at the Cajuns #23 Ranking vs. Texas State's #131 Ranking below. Notice anything that sticks out? How about Texas State record vs. RPI Top 50 compare to the Cajuns. Or the Cajuns record vs. RPI Top 100 compared to Texas State. How about Strength of Schedule? Not saying UL is the defacto #23 best team in the country, all I'm saying is the RPI is a good indication as to how strong your 21-11 record really is, as compared to the rest of the 21-11 records and the country.

I have been called worse lol. Are you serious when you say that having the recruiting profile P5s enjoy is meaningless? Is that why G5 and FCS teams are always making deep runs and playing for NCAA tournament championships? Or is that an anomaly? Yeah, I'm the delusional one buddy. You must be right, beating FCS teams that beat other FCS teams makes you better than FBS teams winning slightly less games against other FBS teams.

For starters, FCS doesn't exist in baseball.

Semantics. You know what I mean.

(04-12-2016 05:16 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:10 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:07 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 04:25 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 03:20 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I said I don't take must stock in it, not that the NCAA committee doesn't and I think it's a flawed metric. Do you honestly think ULL at 21-11 is the 23rd best team in the nation? You have 1 good OOC win against Rice,no conference sweeps, and a big fat 0 wins over P5 schools... Congrats on sweeping Sam Houston, I guess. That Sacred Heart series must have been tough. Yeah ULL definitely deserves to be ranked 100 spots ahead of TXST with almost identical records. If this was a competition of who can beat an easy schedule you guys would have a legit shot at an NCAA title but this is supposed to be a ranking of how good a team is and I call bull****.

Haha, you are delusional. Take your "football" lenses off. P5 schools don't matter, good baseball schools matter. RPI takes into account your winning %, your opponents winning %, and your opponents' opponents' winning %. It is as close to an ideal formula as we can get to determining which teams in the country play the toughest schedules and how well they fare against those schedules.

Take a look at the Cajuns #23 Ranking vs. Texas State's #131 Ranking below. Notice anything that sticks out? How about Texas State record vs. RPI Top 50 compare to the Cajuns. Or the Cajuns record vs. RPI Top 100 compared to Texas State. How about Strength of Schedule? Not saying UL is the defacto #23 best team in the country, all I'm saying is the RPI is a good indication as to how strong your 21-11 record really is, as compared to the rest of the 21-11 records and the country.

I have been called worse lol. Are you serious when you say that having the recruiting profile P5s enjoy is meaningless? Is that why G5 and FCS teams are always making deep runs and playing for NCAA tournament championships? Or is that an anomaly? Yeah, I'm the delusional one buddy. You must be right, beating FCS teams that beat other FCS teams makes you better than FBS teams winning slightly less games against other FBS teams.

For starters, FCS doesn't exist in baseball.

Semantics. You know what I mean.

No, I don't think you know...FCS and FBS have different amount of scholarships. Baseball has the same amount. If more of the Smaller programs were given chances to host you would see a lot more advance. The smaller conferences get dragged down by the lower half of the leagues while the bottom of the larger conference get propped up by the top half. Baseball is about as fair a sport you gonna get to compete. Our team is a money maker so we are investing in baseball. If people would support their teams where schools could see a financial benefit, they would invest.

(04-12-2016 12:56 AM)CajunJuice Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You don't take much stock in RPI? Then you clearly have no idea how to make a regional in college baseball. Buddy, it's ALL about the RPI. Without it, you have to resort to winning the conference tournament.

You clearly don't care about the RPI, because your coaching staff has done a piss poor job of scheduling which makes your RPI so bad. Schedule the right teams, and if you play well against your schedule... And have an RPI in the low 40's come Tourny time, you have a very good shot at an at-large bid.

Not putting much stock into RPI for college baseball, now that's funny.

When you go 2-2 against top 25 RPI teams in a week and drop 30 spots in that same week causes this fan to scratch his head.

(04-12-2016 05:57 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:16 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:10 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:07 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 04:25 PM)CajunJuice Wrote:  Haha, you are delusional. Take your "football" lenses off. P5 schools don't matter, good baseball schools matter. RPI takes into account your winning %, your opponents winning %, and your opponents' opponents' winning %. It is as close to an ideal formula as we can get to determining which teams in the country play the toughest schedules and how well they fare against those schedules.

Take a look at the Cajuns #23 Ranking vs. Texas State's #131 Ranking below. Notice anything that sticks out? How about Texas State record vs. RPI Top 50 compare to the Cajuns. Or the Cajuns record vs. RPI Top 100 compared to Texas State. How about Strength of Schedule? Not saying UL is the defacto #23 best team in the country, all I'm saying is the RPI is a good indication as to how strong your 21-11 record really is, as compared to the rest of the 21-11 records and the country.

I have been called worse lol. Are you serious when you say that having the recruiting profile P5s enjoy is meaningless? Is that why G5 and FCS teams are always making deep runs and playing for NCAA tournament championships? Or is that an anomaly? Yeah, I'm the delusional one buddy. You must be right, beating FCS teams that beat other FCS teams makes you better than FBS teams winning slightly less games against other FBS teams.

For starters, FCS doesn't exist in baseball.

Semantics. You know what I mean.

No, I don't think you know...FCS and FBS have different amount of scholarships. Baseball has the same amount. If more of the Smaller programs were given chances to host you would see a lot more advance. The smaller conferences get dragged down by the lower half of the leagues while the bottom of the larger conference get propped up by the top half. Baseball is about as fair a sport you gonna get to compete. Our team is a money maker so we are investing in baseball. If people would support their teams where schools could see a financial benefit, they would invest.

Same number of scholarships, different talent level of recruits. Stetson University has the same number of scholarships as Florida, does that make them competitive in any aspect? If Stetson hosted a Regional once every couple years I could definitely see them getting some recruits that they would not normally have gotten but not the top level talent that can win national championships. Those guys go to a place where it is an actual possibility and where they will get the most exposure. I don't think anyone would disagree with you that if you invest in your program and facilities you will start getting more and more talented players on average and better attendance aka more money. However, there is a ceiling that is extremely hard to break through when you talk about rivaling traditional powerhouses competing for the top spot in the country and the resources they are willing to expend on baseball.

(04-12-2016 07:27 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:57 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:16 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:10 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 05:07 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I have been called worse lol. Are you serious when you say that having the recruiting profile P5s enjoy is meaningless? Is that why G5 and FCS teams are always making deep runs and playing for NCAA tournament championships? Or is that an anomaly? Yeah, I'm the delusional one buddy. You must be right, beating FCS teams that beat other FCS teams makes you better than FBS teams winning slightly less games against other FBS teams.

For starters, FCS doesn't exist in baseball.

Semantics. You know what I mean.

No, I don't think you know...FCS and FBS have different amount of scholarships. Baseball has the same amount. If more of the Smaller programs were given chances to host you would see a lot more advance. The smaller conferences get dragged down by the lower half of the leagues while the bottom of the larger conference get propped up by the top half. Baseball is about as fair a sport you gonna get to compete. Our team is a money maker so we are investing in baseball. If people would support their teams where schools could see a financial benefit, they would invest.

Same number of scholarships, different talent level of recruits. Stetson University has the same number of scholarships as Florida, does that make them competitive in any aspect? If Stetson hosted a Regional once every couple years I could definitely see them getting some recruits that they would not normally have gotten but not the top level talent that can win national championships. Those guys go to a place where it is an actual possibility and where they will get the most exposure. I don't think anyone would disagree with you that if you invest in your program and facilities you will start getting more and more talented players on average and better attendance aka more money. However, there is a ceiling that is extremely hard to break through when you talk about rivaling traditional powerhouses competing for the top spot in the country and the resources they are willing to expend on baseball.

This isn't football you have 35 guys sharing 11.5 scholarships....you don't have 85 scholarships. Speak for yourself. Louisiana,college of charleston,coastal Carolina,long beach, UCSB,UC Irvine, Fresno,Rice, etc...it is hard to break through...you have stop letting others define your program. Stop buying into this mid-major bullsht. You either are a great baseball program or you aren't. This isn't a game where size,speed,depth and money simply outmatch you..it's baseball. Anyone can be great.

(04-11-2016 05:56 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Dropping 2 to Nevada really hurt us. I don't take much stock in RPI but it always sucks to be ranked near the bottom in anything no matter how that ranking is formulated.

You should work to improve your RPI, the NCAA puts a lot of stock in RPI. Getting an at large and seeding are often a matter of RPI.

Lol I feel like this has become a tangential disagreement about how talent is distributed across D1. Of course there are Cinderella stories and I almost always root for them but you can't get caught up in the exceptions and ignore the rule. Check out the matchup's in the college world series http://www.ncaa.com/history/baseball/d1 In the past 20 years 36 of the 40 teams competing were from the P5. High profile teams and Cinderella teams get stuck in a positive feedback loop with talent and success. I said it was extremely hard, not impossible, to join this group, Rice and Cal State-Fullerton are good examples of this. Getting back to the subject at hand I stick by my opinion that RPI ranking is not a good metric in determining how good or bad a team is. If someone has a good explanation as to why it is I would be happy to consider it.

Cajuns beat their way into 2000 CWS by hosting a regional, and then going to No. One USC. Cajuns beat Carolina in three games, and finished third in the CWS. Having a great RPI provided the Cajuns the ability to host, and just two years ago the Cajuns were a national seed, came up one win short of CWS.

Godzilla isn't even worth our time fellas. He's clearly not well versed in how college baseball works. I don't have time to bicker with a football guy about how baseball teams are judged.

Ever heard of Cal State Fullerton? Prob not since all you care about is beating big name P5 schools in baseball, lol.

This guy talking about FCS and FBS in baseball, lmao!

But please, try and compare the Bobcats and Cajuns schedule again. That was funny.

(04-12-2016 10:10 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  Lol I feel like this has become a tangential disagreement about how talent is distributed across D1. Of course there are Cinderella stories and I almost always root for them but you can't get caught up in the exceptions and ignore the rule. Check out the matchup's in the college world series http://www.ncaa.com/history/baseball/d1 In the past 20 years 36 of the 40 teams competing were from the P5. High profile teams and Cinderella teams get stuck in a positive feedback loop with talent and success. I said it was extremely hard, not impossible, to join this group, Rice and Cal State-Fullerton are good examples of this. Getting back to the subject at hand I stick by my opinion that RPI ranking is not a good metric in determining how good or bad a team is. If someone has a good explanation as to why it is I would be happy to consider it.

So would you rather them do it like football? Where humans decide? And absolutely nobody but about 15 teams actually have a Chance to play for a title? Or this way, an actual formula based on people's winning %, their opponents and opponents opponents? It's an actual formula that is in the open that you can schedule for and plan for. Here is a better question, why don't you explain to us how you would do it that would make it "fair". Maybe we could do it like basketball where our conference champion who was tied for best record in the nation has to worry about making the field of 64 if they don't win the tourney...that seems fair right? RPI isn't perfect but what is?

(04-12-2016 10:17 PM)CajunExpress Wrote:  Cajuns beat their way into 2000 CWS by hosting a regional, and then going to No. One USC. Cajuns beat Carolina in three games, and finished third in the CWS. Having a great RPI provided the Cajuns the ability to host, and just two years ago the Cajuns were a national seed, came up one win short of CWS.

And I'm sure those are great selling points for your program that has gotten you a couple recruits that normally would have went to a more high profile team. Like I said positive feedback loop. You also have to realize that ULL is a lot closer to that ceiling I was talking about than a huge number of teams in D1 baseball.