(05-22-2019 10:43 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  We all have our own interpretations. When has a show ever captivated us like this? The fact that the "hangover" is so large is impressive!

Those who were disappointed should really read the books. They'll give you the detail you seek. GRRM hinted recently about Winds of Winter possibly due by 2020. Also, ya'll know about quartermaester.info, right? Whoever did that is nuts.

Episode 3, The Long Night was perhaps the greatest episode of television ever produced.

That documentary about the making of the last season coming up this weekend should be neat.

Pretty sure a good portion of the upset people are already the book readers.

Then they've been upset since the red wedding. Catelyn Stark is revived as Lady Stoneheart by Beric Dondarian and she goes on to start killing Freys.

(05-23-2019 10:15 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Then they've been upset since the red wedding. Catelyn Stark is revived as Lady Stoneheart by Beric Dondarian and she goes on to start killing Freys.

I'm sure some book readers found something to dislike from the very first episode. However, the ranks of the dissatisfied fans, both book readers and none, have swelled in the last two seasons. That, of course, coincides with a lack of material from GRRM, and a decision to "just get it over with so we can move on to Disney money".

I read all the books. The first three were great, but I thought the last two were pretty bad.

Splitting one big book geographically was strange. The Dorne and Greyjoy storylines seem like filler. Dany's story is non-stop misery. I'm curious where Winds of Winter will cut off.

I laughed and then I got really sad

(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(05-23-2019 10:15 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Then they've been upset since the red wedding. Catelyn Stark is revived as Lady Stoneheart by Beric Dondarian and she goes on to start killing Freys.

I'm sure some book readers found something to dislike from the very first episode. However, the ranks of the dissatisfied fans, both book readers and none, have swelled in the last two seasons. That, of course, coincides with a lack of material from GRRM, and a decision to "just get it over with so we can move on to Disney money".

Thats a little unfair. First, the show runners (Benoff and Weiss) were hired to convert the George RR Martin books into a TV series. They werent really supposed to actually write the story. Im sure when they began, the thinking was 8 years from now Martin will have surely finished the last 2 books. That failure is on more on Martin that the GOT crew.

Secondly, the series had the current cast under contract for "X" number of years. Everyone knew that going in. So, the show was always going to have a window that it had to be completed within.

I do fault Benioff and Weiss for doing a 6 episode final season. I cant really think of a single reason why it had to be done in 6 rather than 10 episodes. Those extra episodes would have allowed us to see Dani slip over the edge more gradually and given us more opportunities to see examples of her slide. It also would have allowed us to get a better feel for the way those around her came to ultimately change their attitudes as well. So, I think the ultra fast paced final season was unnecessary---and that's on the GOT team.

(05-26-2019 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(05-23-2019 10:15 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Then they've been upset since the red wedding. Catelyn Stark is revived as Lady Stoneheart by Beric Dondarian and she goes on to start killing Freys.

I'm sure some book readers found something to dislike from the very first episode. However, the ranks of the dissatisfied fans, both book readers and none, have swelled in the last two seasons. That, of course, coincides with a lack of material from GRRM, and a decision to "just get it over with so we can move on to Disney money".

Thats a little unfair. First, the show runners (Benoff and Weiss) were hired to convert the George RR Martin books into a TV series. They werent really supposed to actually write the story. Im sure when they began, the thinking was 8 years from now Martin will have surely finished the last 2 books. That failure is on more on Martin that the GOT crew.

Secondly, the series had the current cast under contract for "X" number of years. Everyone knew that going in. So, the show was always going to have a window that it had to be completed within.

I do fault Benioff and Weiss for doing a 6 episode final season. I cant really think of a single reason why it had to be done in 6 rather than 10 episodes. Those extra episodes would have allowed us to see Dani slip over the edge more gradually and given us more opportunities to see examples of her slide. It also would have allowed us to get a better feel for the way those around her came to ultimately change their attitudes as well. So, I think the ultra fast paced final season was unnecessary---and that's on the GOT team.

I agree with you mostly. But after watching the Last Watch doc on the final season I'm not sure they could have done more than they did. After watching it was apparent to me that the hundreds of people in production, extras, et al did something quite extraordinary with these 6 episodes. Pulled this from a Ringer article that says it better than I do:

Quote:But more screen time also could have stretched the show’s production past the point of feasibility. “The schedule is impossible,” production designer Deborah Riley says. “I think this season, we’ve certainly found the limit of what’s able to be achieved.” Four more episodes needn’t have included anything like the Battle of Winterfell or Daenerys’s sack of King’s Landing, but Thrones already took nearly two full years off between seasons 7 and 8, so additional demand on the crew might not have worked within any reasonable time frame. It’s a better excuse, anyway, than Benioff and Weiss’s contention that they had “always believed it was about 73 hours.”

After watching the documentary, I agree that 10 episodes was not feasible. But I think they could have done 8 episodes with only about one more hour added total.

Episodes 1 and 2 could have been exactly as they were.
Episode 3 could have been split into two episodes. Can you imagine the agony of a cliffhanger if the last scene of that episode was the Night King raising the dead?
Episode 4 could have shown the rest of the battle with 10-15 minutes extra added and then maybe 10 extra minutes immediately after the battle to show more immediate reactions.
Episode 5 could have been the actual Episode 4.
Episode 6 could have been the first half of the actual Episode 5 with added scenes to show Dany going off the deep end. And it could have ended when Dany started to lay waste to King's Landing.
Episode 7 could have been the the rest of Episode 5 and then Episode 6 up to the point when Tyrion confronted Dany and tried to set the Westeros record for most bounces by a Hand of the King (Queen) pin.
Episode 8 could have added more about Dany's plans (was Winterfell next?) and then the rest of the finale.

The "Mountain" still making headlines post-GoT. World record deadlift.

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a3235...-deadlift/

(05-02-2020 07:08 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  The "Mountain" still making headlines post-GoT. World record deadlift.

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a3235...-deadlift/

Saw that. Didn't even look hard for him. Insane strength.