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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
(02-11-2016 01:42 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(02-11-2016 01:40 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(02-11-2016 01:34 PM)mphsfan Wrote:  The only thing that really matters for this team, now, is the AAC tournament performance.

Yep, we need to get geared up for that first round exit.

I'll take the positive road - Kedren got 10 minutes last night and he has experience navigating a team to a conference tourney title.

It's amazing that we've given Kedren so little playing time this year. With our musical chairs game at PG we've had a 1st year grad transfer, 2 true freshmen, and a walk-on who hasn't played competitive basketball in 3 years yet we won't play Kedren.
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
No adjustments after halftime. None.
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
(02-11-2016 01:18 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(02-11-2016 01:10 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  We should have won and the defense could have been better.

Having said that, they hit insanely difficult shots and got enough easy ones against some defensive lapses to win. And I'm not blaming the refs, but a couple of calls that seemed off hurt us, and you know I'm not the one to blame the refs.

Having said that, we didn't have luck last night, but you gotta find a way to win games like that. I get how frustrating it is to have guys just not miss, but at some point, the coaching staff has to change the calculus.

Odd thing is the team looked pretty good at times. One of our odd losses where I felt pretty good about the game until late. Honestly, if we're 19-5 and not 14-10, this is the sort of game you shrug and move on with, but we needed this one bad and even if this loss was understandable from a shots/refs/luck perspective, sometimes you just have to not take another loss.

Understandable on some level, but too many understandable losses are still too many losses.

I think the problem is most folks don't realize that the line between winning and losing for most DI programs is a pretty fine one...so you can say the other team did this, refs that, etc...

Main point is, this team could've won, but didn't.

Seems to be a recurring theme and not a one game aberration.

Yep. This sort of 'bad luck' defense is completely acceptable a few times a year, but it's too early to discuss double digit losses. This will be our worst year in recent memory.
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
Kedren's minutes for the year: 6 DNP's, 8, 6, 15, 2, 16, DNP, 2, 10 DNP's, 10.
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Pastner: "They hit shots"
If we win this game, he would have just said "hey, we made shots! Bottom line, we made shots"
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(02-11-2016 01:53 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  Kedren's minutes for the year: 6 DNP's, 8, 6, 15, 2, 16, DNP, 2, 10 DNP's, 10.

Yup, pretty much Pastner's way with players... This is has been a pattern that has resulted in player consistently transferring.
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
What about using TO's to stop runs?




The weird substitution patterns?




Not yanking Woodson?




Getting beat on the boards after those free throws down the stretch?




Not running an offense?




Having to be told by an asst. that you have to start fouling?
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
(02-11-2016 02:12 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  What about using TO's to stop runs?




The weird substitution patterns?




Not yanking Woodson?




Getting beat on the boards after those free throws down the stretch?




Not running an offense?




Having to be told by an asst. that you have to start fouling?

sounds like a coach who either doesn't give a damn or doesn't know what he is doing...
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(02-11-2016 02:12 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  What about using TO's to stop runs?




The weird substitution patterns?




Not yanking Woodson?




Getting beat on the boards after those free throws down the stretch?




Not running an offense?




Having to be told by an asst. that you have to start fouling?

That's the skinny!
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
He uses TO's to stop runs...OUR runs.
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(02-11-2016 02:40 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  He uses TO's to stop runs...OUR runs.

probably just a quirk of the game, but it seems like 30 seconds to a minute after CJP calls time out there is a media time out.

Those three fouls on us at the Houston end in that one sequence was BS. And Houston has a guy who is unconscious with a career night.
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
(02-11-2016 12:52 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone count the number of times he rambles about Houston "hitting shots."

This is some high level analysis of why the game broke the way it did.





I only saw about the last 5 minutes of the game but the replays on the news kind of told the story to me. The Tiger guards were not guarding the perimeter. They were running from 15 ft. away at the shooter on almost every 3 pointer they showed on the sports report. Any team could shoot almost that well when they are wide open. That's why the Cougars shot almost 70 percent in the second half. Josh obviously picked up the philosophy of NEVER USE A ZONE no matter what from Calipari like it was some kind of weakness.
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
He's checked out.
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He needs to do an interview where he repeats the phrase "show me the money" over and over
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
(02-11-2016 12:52 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone count the number of times he rambles about Houston "hitting shots."

This is some high level analysis of why the game broke the way it did.




And I always thought Moe Iba was bad. Clueless (again). WOW!!!!
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
(02-11-2016 03:55 PM)Antonio5fan Wrote:  
(02-11-2016 12:52 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Someone count the number of times he rambles about Houston "hitting shots."

This is some high level analysis of why the game broke the way it did.





I only saw about the last 5 minutes of the game but the replays on the news kind of told the story to me. The Tiger guards were not guarding the perimeter. They were running from 15 ft. away at the shooter on almost every 3 pointer they showed on the sports report. Any team could shoot almost that well when they are wide open. That's why the Cougars shot almost 70 percent in the second half. Josh obviously picked up the philosophy of NEVER USE A ZONE no matter what from Calipari like it was some kind of weakness.

He used zone in the 2nd half, that's where they got those mid-range jumpers and offensive rebounds at. 04-jawdrop
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L. Jason Smith @TheCAJasonSmith
Pastner today on last night's 98-90 loss at Houston: "When I went back and watched film of the game, I was not happy w/ our defense at all."
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RE: Pastner: "They hit shots"
reminds me of Rasheed Wallace's "both teams played good"
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(02-11-2016 05:02 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  L. Jason Smith @TheCAJasonSmith
Pastner today on last night's 98-90 loss at Houston: "When I went back and watched film of the game, I was not happy w/ our defense at all."
3:18 PM - 11 Feb 2016

Would be great if he noticed these things during games.
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(02-11-2016 04:03 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  He's checked out.

I don't get why people keep saying things like this. He's the same sorry coach with the same problems he's had his entire time here. He hasn't checked out; he's just a bad coach.
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