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AAC coaches on the hot seat
This is strictly my OPINION, as a Cincy fan, but here is a feel i get for the warmth of the seats of the basketball coaches in the AAC:
1. Josh Pastner - I honestly feel bad for Memphis fans. He is slowly choking the life out your proud program, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
2. Jeff Lebo - CUSA-level coach. You want to get serious in this league? Find a serious coach.
3. Whatever the Tulane coaches name is - See Jeff Lebo
4. Donnie Jones - See Jeff Lebo
5. Fran Dunphy - Solid coach, but inconsistent. As I see it, he's not matching the high-caliber seasons that Temple historically deserves.
6. Orlando Antigua- needs more time. Has a decimated roster. USF is a mess.
Icey cold seats:
Mick Cronin - 5 straight tourney trips
Kevin Ollie - while not the greatest year, has still won a NC
Larry Brown - The Godfather resurrected SMU. He is king there.
Kelvin Sampson - See Larry Brown within two more years. Likely NIT this season
Frank Haith - Still must take Tulsa to the next level, but has done very well.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire to coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Fran will probably finish out his contract
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 08:59 AM)TforTempleU Wrote: (02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire to coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Fran will probably finish out his contract
Agreed, almost zero chance Fran gets fired before his contract expires in 2021.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 09:10 AM)ZachMan Wrote: (02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 08:54 AM)LetsGoUC Wrote: This is strictly my OPINION, as a Cincy fan, but here is a feel i get for the warmth of the seats of the basketball coaches in the AAC:
1. Josh Pastner - I honestly feel bad for Memphis fans. He is slowly choking the life out your proud program, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
2. Jeff Lebo - CUSA-level coach. You want to get serious in this league? Find a serious coach.
3. Whatever the Tulane coaches name is - See Jeff Lebo
4. Donnie Jones - See Jeff Lebo
5. Fran Dunphy - Solid coach, but inconsistent. As I see it, he's not matching the high-caliber seasons that Temple historically deserves.
6. Orlando Antigua- needs more time. Has a decimated roster. USF is a mess.
Icey cold seats:
Mick Cronin - 5 straight tourney trips
Kevin Ollie - while not the greatest year, has still won a NC
Larry Brown - The Godfather resurrected SMU. He is king there.
Kelvin Sampson - See Larry Brown within two more years. Likely NIT this season
Frank Haith - Still must take Tulsa to the next level, but has done very well.
Dunphy should be on the hot seat, but he's not. The buy out costs too much. We are stuck with him until 2020 or 2021, depending on who you believe.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
I don't see the Dunphy on hot seat one. Prior to joining the AAC he went to 6 straight NCAAs. I just think Temple struggled once it got into the AAC, day in and day out tougher competition than the A10. Guy won 26 games last year, got snubbed by the NCAA. And is second in the conference right now behind the #16 team in the country.
He's had a couple WTF losses this year but contrary to what some may say, this was a step up in competition for them, just look at the record prior to the AAC and then their first year in the AAC. But they seem to be adjusting.
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AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:10 AM)ZachMan Wrote: (02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
Damage has already been done. No way he survives. Maybe he pulls off a miracle and we win the AAC tournament and make a run. Even then, he would be looking to leave.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:10 AM)ZachMan Wrote: (02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
It's not a lump sum. It's a monthly payment that will continue through 2020, just like it has for a couple of years now. And it is coming from a handful of boosters, not the school. The only issue is if someone is willing to start paying for a new coach. I'm guessing yes.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 10:32 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:10 AM)ZachMan Wrote: (02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
It's not a lump sum. It's a monthly payment that will continue through 2020, just like it has for a couple of years now. And it is coming from a handful of boosters, not the school. The only issue is if someone is willing to start paying for a new coach. I'm guessing yes.
we could, and should, go get Underwood for 950k...
he'd take it in a second.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 10:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:32 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:10 AM)ZachMan Wrote: (02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
It's not a lump sum. It's a monthly payment that will continue through 2020, just like it has for a couple of years now. And it is coming from a handful of boosters, not the school. The only issue is if someone is willing to start paying for a new coach. I'm guessing yes.
we could, and should, go get Underwood for 950k...
he'd take it in a second.
Because he is the best candidate available, or because he doesn't cost much?
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 10:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:32 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:10 AM)ZachMan Wrote: (02-11-2016 08:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: Memphis won't pay 10.6 million to fire a coach...
1) Conroy at Tulane
2) Lebo at ECU
3) Donnie Jones at UCF
4) Pastner at Memphis
5) Fran at Temple
I think 1-3 may get canned this season...4 next season...no idea on Fran.
Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
It's not a lump sum. It's a monthly payment that will continue through 2020, just like it has for a couple of years now. And it is coming from a handful of boosters, not the school. The only issue is if someone is willing to start paying for a new coach. I'm guessing yes.
we could, and should, go get Underwood for 950k...
he'd take it in a second.
Underwood would thrive with the talent on the Memphis bench.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 09:43 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote: I don't see the Dunphy on hot seat one. Prior to joining the AAC he went to 6 straight NCAAs. I just think Temple struggled once it got into the AAC, day in and day out tougher competition than the A10. Guy won 26 games last year, got snubbed by the NCAA. And is second in the conference right now behind the #16 team in the country.
He's had a couple WTF losses this year but contrary to what some may say, this was a step up in competition for them, just look at the record prior to the AAC and then their first year in the AAC. But they seem to be adjusting.
He's a terrible recruiter. He's a good to very good coach. But he's not the guy to take a team to the next level. Most of the fan base is not satisfied with being a potential bubble team each year. We never recruit legit big men. Lavoy Allen was a very defensive player, but not an offensive threat.
In the Philly area, with Vilenova in our backyard, and St Joes 5 miles away, its a very competitive environment
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:32 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:10 AM)ZachMan Wrote: Memphis will pay and Josh is done here, time to move on
I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
It's not a lump sum. It's a monthly payment that will continue through 2020, just like it has for a couple of years now. And it is coming from a handful of boosters, not the school. The only issue is if someone is willing to start paying for a new coach. I'm guessing yes.
we could, and should, go get Underwood for 950k...
he'd take it in a second.
Because he is the best candidate available, or because he doesn't cost much?
BOTH...we're lucky in that we can get both in one IF we act this season...If we don't, another name program will.
I watched him coach circles around Pastner with half as talented kids...we had Shaq and Austin...they had coaching.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400586703
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 10:38 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:32 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 09:24 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: I hope you're correct, but I fear with Tulane, UCF, and USF coming up, Josh may get a win streak, and save his job.
7.95 million is a far more manageable number than 10.6 million
It's not a lump sum. It's a monthly payment that will continue through 2020, just like it has for a couple of years now. And it is coming from a handful of boosters, not the school. The only issue is if someone is willing to start paying for a new coach. I'm guessing yes.
we could, and should, go get Underwood for 950k...
he'd take it in a second.
Because he is the best candidate available, or because he doesn't cost much?
BOTH...we're lucky in that we can get both in one IF we act this season...If we don't, another name program will.
I watched him coach circles around Pastner with half as talented kids...we had Shaq and Austin...they had coaching.
JMO, but I think you are assuming we don't want to pay much, and that he is the best candidate available. If the first assumption is incorrect, then that widens the field of available candidates.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:38 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:32 AM)TripleA Wrote: It's not a lump sum. It's a monthly payment that will continue through 2020, just like it has for a couple of years now. And it is coming from a handful of boosters, not the school. The only issue is if someone is willing to start paying for a new coach. I'm guessing yes.
we could, and should, go get Underwood for 950k...
he'd take it in a second.
Because he is the best candidate available, or because he doesn't cost much?
BOTH...we're lucky in that we can get both in one IF we act this season...If we don't, another name program will.
I watched him coach circles around Pastner with half as talented kids...we had Shaq and Austin...they had coaching.
JMO, but I think you are assuming we don't want to pay much, and that he is the best candidate available. If the first assumption is incorrect, then that widens the field of available candidates.
I'll add the same qualifier, JMO, but Cal and Pastner both started out at Memphis with a contract that paid ~1 million
I think it's at least safe to assume 950k-1 million is where the next coach will start off too.
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RE: AAC coaches on the hot seat
(02-11-2016 10:49 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:40 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:38 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:35 AM)TripleA Wrote: (02-11-2016 10:34 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: we could, and should, go get Underwood for 950k...
he'd take it in a second.
Because he is the best candidate available, or because he doesn't cost much?
BOTH...we're lucky in that we can get both in one IF we act this season...If we don't, another name program will.
I watched him coach circles around Pastner with half as talented kids...we had Shaq and Austin...they had coaching.
JMO, but I think you are assuming we don't want to pay much, and that he is the best candidate available. If the first assumption is incorrect, then that widens the field of available candidates.
I'll add the same qualifier, JMO, but Cal and Pastner both started out at Memphis with a contract that paid ~1 million
I think it's at least safe to assume 950k-1 million is where the next coach will start off too.
Those were 16 and 7 years ago. I don't think that is the overriding factor. I think it depends on who is available and what it will take to get him.
We just paid our new HC in FB, with no experience, $1.8M, $400K over what we were paying our last coach. Not that we will do that in BB, but history is not the best gauge of what we are willing to spend.
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