It was nice of them to ask our athletics to contribute a piece to the ceremony. Nice touch. Classy.


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(02-08-2016 07:41 PM)galojah Wrote:  It was nice of them to ask our athletics to contribute a piece to the ceremony. Nice touch. Classy.


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Yes, it was a class move - almost like our friends over at the University of Kentucky, who were engaged in an IMPORTANT SEC contest this past weekend, which no doubt DWARFED the magnitude of this little observance of historic and social upheaval and totally explained why they just COULD NOT participate in a 50th anniversary rematch of that '66 Final Four game.

But what should little peons like UTEP and WKU expect from such a storied basketball tradition?

(Turn off sarcasm)

(02-08-2016 03:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:59 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  [quote='galojah' pid='12982576' dateline='1454951943']
WKU has yet to learn how to close out a win -- on the road or at home. We've had several games where we were leading double digits with 5-6 minutes to go and we blow it. Coach switches style to burn clock and we burn ourselves. UTEP game demonstrated that on an even more unbelievable scale.
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Only common thread on blowing leads late in games is one name..Players change, but our HC has not...

So tell all of us uninformed what the coaches record is in games where his team had a late lead? I know this season but that's not what you said...

can you show me the games? I assume you must know, at least you said you did with the above statement.

Since you didn't get around to giving us those numbers....I think the below goes totally against what you said. So let me set that right. The coach is the same but the players have changed over the years...
leading into this year Western won 90% of the games Harper coached when leading with under 5 minutes remaining. This year with mostly inexperience players and 8 new faces....that changed.

So is it coaching or is it the lack of experience on the floor? The stats are below I will let 518 tell us what they mean to him.

"Coming into this season, the Tops were 47-5 when leading with less than five minutes to play in Harper’s first three full seasons at the helm.

WKU is 11-5 in such games this year. The program has as many losses in those scenarios this season as it did in Harper’s first three full years combined."
http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/wku/no...04c91.html

I think you guys should stop looking to get rid of him and sign him to a five year extension.

(02-08-2016 08:49 PM)doughtyrowdy Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 07:41 PM)galojah Wrote:  It was nice of them to ask our athletics to contribute a piece to the ceremony. Nice touch. Classy.


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Yes, it was a class move - almost like our friends over at the University of Kentucky, who were engaged in an IMPORTANT SEC contest this past weekend, which no doubt DWARFED the magnitude of this little observance of historic and social upheaval and totally explained why they just COULD NOT participate in a 50th anniversary rematch of that '66 Final Four game.

But what should little peons like UTEP and WKU expect from such a storied basketball tradition?

(Turn off sarcasm)

Of course Kentucky wouldn't want to be a part of it. Why would they want to relive a time in their program where they weren't as diverse as UTEP.

Few times that I agree with FeetButt. Why would Kenturkey want to celebrate a loss to a tiny school in west texas that made them look bad both for the loss and the lack of diversity. Add that that there were rumors that Rupp was a racist. I don't blame them for staying out of it.

(02-09-2016 03:38 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Few times that I agree with FeetButt. Why would Kenturkey want to celebrate a loss to a tiny school in west texas that made them look bad both for the loss and the lack of diversity. Add that that there were rumors that Rupp was a racist. I don't blame them for staying out of it.

Agree and it was great to have 2 programs with excellent mbb history taking part. Kudos to all involved.

(02-09-2016 04:15 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(02-09-2016 03:38 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Few times that I agree with FeetButt. Why would Kenturkey want to celebrate a loss to a tiny school in west texas that made them look bad both for the loss and the lack of diversity. Add that that there were rumors that Rupp was a racist. I don't blame them for staying out of it.

Agree and it was great to have 2 programs with excellent mbb history taking part. Kudos to all involved.

Being a resident of KY for more than half a century, deep down I knew UK would not be caught within a couple of time zones of this anniversary. Even last year, when there were negotiating to have a one shot game at Cole Fieldhouse, deep down you knew they would find some flimsy excuse to back out. It's who they are. That game is the proverbial skeleton in the closet with that program. Imagine if some of Calipari's NBA developmental recruits got wind of the program's former history? Yep, no surprises there

(02-09-2016 03:26 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  I think you guys should stop looking to get rid of him and sign him to a five year extension.

Yes I am sure you and everyone else who are not WKU fans wants Harper signed to a 5 year extension...If it makes you feel any better its Feb. 10th and Harper has no extension (contract expires June 30th this year) and the only thing I have heard coming from WKU admin. about the state of our basketball program was not positive...So I am sure we will all see what happens come March....I think hes gone, but either way you cannot have year to year contracts, so if our admin. decides to keep him it would be for a 4 year extension, otherwise coaches would have a field day recruiting against us.

Don't worry though you have WKU fans who will fight to the death for almighty Ray Harper and make every excuse in the book for him...The sad thing is we no longer can make fun of Kermit Davis because he owns Harper and I would be shocked not to see us get killed in Murfreesboro here in a few weeks....I just want us to be relevant again in hoops...Hell I used to make fun of us being in the NIT a few years ago, I would jump for joy to make the NIT at this point....That would be mean we had a relevant and successful regular season, something we have not enjoyed under Harper's watch...

(02-09-2016 03:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 03:14 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-08-2016 02:59 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  [quote='galojah' pid='12982576' dateline='1454951943']
WKU has yet to learn how to close out a win -- on the road or at home. We've had several games where we were leading double digits with 5-6 minutes to go and we blow it. Coach switches style to burn clock and we burn ourselves. UTEP game demonstrated that on an even more unbelievable scale.
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Only common thread on blowing leads late in games is one name..Players change, but our HC has not...

So tell all of us uninformed what the coaches record is in games where his team had a late lead? I know this season but that's not what you said...

can you show me the games? I assume you must know, at least you said you did with the above statement.

Since you didn't get around to giving us those numbers....I think the below goes totally against what you said. So let me set that right. The coach is the same but the players have changed over the years...
leading into this year Western won 90% of the games Harper coached when leading with under 5 minutes remaining. This year with mostly inexperience players and 8 new faces....that changed.

So is it coaching or is it the lack of experience on the floor? The stats are below I will let 518 tell us what they mean to him.

"Coming into this season, the Tops were 47-5 when leading with less than five minutes to play in Harper’s first three full seasons at the helm.

WKU is 11-5 in such games this year. The program has as many losses in those scenarios this season as it did in Harper’s first three full years combined."
http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/wku/no...04c91.html

You got me on that, could have worded that better in saying under Harper's tenure our guys are not used to having a lead on the road...

This blowing leads late is new to this season only, in Harpers 5th year when most WKU coaches are either fired or move on to a bigger paycheck...You tell me guns where you think our admin. is going with Harper, would love to hear your opinion...Don't bother though, I already know what your opinion is...

Harper is in his 4th year...let me repeat that 4th season as Western's coach. If you want to count the taking over as the interim coach 18 games into the season it shows you have a ax to grind. But even with that... his 5th season would be over mid jan 2017.

Only a fan with a agenda would count a coach taking over a team mid season as his first year.

(02-10-2016 02:44 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Harper is in his 4th year...let me repeat that 4th season as Western's coach. If you want to count the taking over as the interim coach 18 games into the season it shows you have a ax to grind. But even with that... his 5th season would be over mid jan 2017.

Only a fan with a agenda would count a coach taking over a team mid season as his first year.

The haters get their oats up after every loss strutting around like Banty Roosters. Then when you prove them wrong on a statement of fact by them of Ray coughing up leads since he's been here they don't bother to answer. Just move on to another moving target. Just another opinion.

You don't see them after a win. Well, you might see a meh....good game. But they're pretty absent after every win. It's like a loss is a bowl full of Wheaties for them.

For 30 minutes I thought we played our best ball on the road or at home for that matter. Looks like booting CHD actually is paying dividends. It hurts our depth and outside shooting but appears to have helped chemistry. I thought Cosby's defense Saturday was the best of the year.

I was told that one of our star players wanted him gone a long time ago. From what I hear Ray was worried that hoops was all Chris had and Ray didn't want to take that from him. So because he was worried more about Chris the person he delayed getting rid of someone that was a distraction. Folks would be surprised who it was that really wanted him gone.