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RE: Memphis paper - "Worst loss under Pastner? Yep."
(01-26-2016 03:07 AM)Shrack Wrote:  ECU should go hire Mike Davis.

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RE: Memphis paper - "Worst loss under Pastner? Yep."
(01-25-2016 02:16 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 01:46 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  I didn't see the game and it wasn't a game that Memphis fans expected to lose, however I hate to cheapen the Pirates effort by categorizing the game as "worst ever". ECU should get proper credit for playing well.

No. It was probably the worst ever loss under Pastner and IMO Pastner was the biggest reason for the loss. It wasn't all on the Memphis players like Pastner keeps insisting that Markell Crawford going under a pick on B.J. Tyson shot was one of the reasons for the loss. That is so lame. Crawford did that during one of the game's first possessions. There were still 39 minutes left in the game after that shot.

IMO Pastner's timeout to set his defense late in the game was the reason that Memphis lost. Memphis was on a roll before that time out and the ECU players were gassed and on top of that ECU didn't have any timeouts of their own to get their players rested. ECU was done, but Pastner gave them life.

For a point of reference Temple had a similar game with ECU just a couple of weeks back in Philadelphia. ECU was winning by double figures at Temple in the 2nd half, but the ECU players were running out of gas. Fran Dunphy didn't call a time out to help ECU out. He just let the ECU players stay on the floor sucking wind and eventually the Temple players tracked ECU down and won the game.

That's an accurate depiction of the Temple game. ECU is dangerous when not exhausted. Didn't see the Memphis game, but giving ECU their legs back wasn't smart coaching at all.
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RE: Memphis paper - "Worst loss under Pastner? Yep."
(01-25-2016 12:36 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  And that's saying a lot. The CA is all over Josh >>>

http://www.commercialappeal.com/sports/t...36191.html

...So it's probably safe to say that Memphis' 84-83 home loss Sunday to an 8-11 ECU team that had dropped six straight games to open American Athletic Conference play was the Tigers' worst in Pastner's seven seasons.

It was Memphis' sixth loss to a sub-.500 team in the Pastner Era, but just the second one at FedExForum. The other was the aforementioned loss to UTEP.

But worse than the quality of opponent was how the Tigers lost, allowing Tyson to light them up for the second straight game (he scored a career-high-tying 26 points); giving the Pirates 25 points off 16 turnovers; and jogging on defense in a first half in which ECU shot 61.5 percent and beat them 8-2 in transition...

Worst loss under Pastner???
Division 2 Christian Brothers University.

Just saying, losing to ECU may be bad.
Losing to a D2 school is always worse.
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(01-25-2016 01:32 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Can we interest you in a slightly used Lebo?

If you gave Lebo the current roster at Memphis he could win the AAC. Problems would crop 2 years later as he has to rely on his own recruits. Maybe though his enthusiasm level would jump at Memphis as opposed to ECU where he seems resigned to fate of always being outclassed, poor little old us, etc.
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(01-26-2016 12:44 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 01:32 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Can we interest you in a slightly used Lebo?

If you gave Lebo the current roster at Memphis he could win the AAC. Problems would crop 2 years later as he has to rely on his own recruits. Maybe though his enthusiasm level would jump at Memphis as opposed to ECU where he seems resigned to fate of always being outclassed, poor little old us, etc.

If this is truly the case then why can’t the administration and AD sit Lebo down and tell him he needs to add a top notch recruiter to his staff? If he’s good enough to win the AAC with talent it’s much easier to get a solid young recruiter on staff than it is to hire a new head coach. His coaching skills are really that good? (It's a serious question)
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RE: Memphis paper - "Worst loss under Pastner? Yep."
(01-26-2016 01:05 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 12:44 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 01:32 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Can we interest you in a slightly used Lebo?

If you gave Lebo the current roster at Memphis he could win the AAC. Problems would crop 2 years later as he has to rely on his own recruits. Maybe though his enthusiasm level would jump at Memphis as opposed to ECU where he seems resigned to fate of always being outclassed, poor little old us, etc.

If this is truly the case then why can’t the administration and AD sit Lebo down and tell him he needs to add a top notch recruiter to his staff? If he’s good enough to win the AAC with talent it’s much easier to get a solid young recruiter on staff than it is to hire a new head coach. His coaching skills are really that good? (It's a serious question)

No, because he'd **** up the rotations no matter what kind of recruits he had.
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If i was an ecu fan, other than being amused, i would be slightly peeved that memphis fans were jumping of bridges due to the loss.
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There is a certain segment of our fanbase who are trying to use this win to justify their opinion that Lebo is the second coming. It's really pathetic, all this win proved was that BJ Tyson is the real deal.
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(01-26-2016 01:28 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  There is a certain segment of our fanbase who are trying to use this win to justify their opinion that Lebo is the second coming. It's really pathetic, all this win proved was that BJ Tyson is the real deal.

Yeah, they're called "Mongoloids".
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(01-26-2016 01:28 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  There is a certain segment of our fanbase who are trying to use this win to justify their opinion that Lebo is the second coming. It's really pathetic, all this win proved was that BJ Tyson is the real deal.

It also shows that Kentrell Barkley has the makings of being an all conference player (15 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals, 1 block and 7 of 8 from the line). In fact ECU's best two players (Barkley and Tyson) are only a freshman and a sophomore.

The future should be very bright for ECU with a big man like Riak coming back; but I don't know anyone that actually thinks that Lebo is going to even bother to get up off of his butt to go out and try to get any decent big men to put with his young players. That is the real problem with Lebo. He has a couple of more good looking wing players coming next year (Elijah Hood is going to be good), but it will make no difference because he will not go out and get any decent low post guys that can rebound and play defense.
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(01-25-2016 01:42 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN 21h21 hours ago
Memphis lost to East Carolina. Nobody loses to East Carolina.


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Ouch!

Haha
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(01-26-2016 10:23 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 12:36 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  And that's saying a lot. The CA is all over Josh >>>

http://www.commercialappeal.com/sports/t...36191.html

...So it's probably safe to say that Memphis' 84-83 home loss Sunday to an 8-11 ECU team that had dropped six straight games to open American Athletic Conference play was the Tigers' worst in Pastner's seven seasons.

It was Memphis' sixth loss to a sub-.500 team in the Pastner Era, but just the second one at FedExForum. The other was the aforementioned loss to UTEP.

But worse than the quality of opponent was how the Tigers lost, allowing Tyson to light them up for the second straight game (he scored a career-high-tying 26 points); giving the Pirates 25 points off 16 turnovers; and jogging on defense in a first half in which ECU shot 61.5 percent and beat them 8-2 in transition...

Worst loss under Pastner???
Division 2 Christian Brothers University.

Just saying, losing to ECU may be bad.
Losing to a D2 school is always worse.

Except CBU was an exhibition game, so the beat writer probably isn't counting that, since it's not on the official record.
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(01-26-2016 01:05 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  
(01-26-2016 12:44 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  
(01-25-2016 01:32 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  Can we interest you in a slightly used Lebo?

If you gave Lebo the current roster at Memphis he could win the AAC. Problems would crop 2 years later as he has to rely on his own recruits. Maybe though his enthusiasm level would jump at Memphis as opposed to ECU where he seems resigned to fate of always being outclassed, poor little old us, etc.

If this is truly the case then why can’t the administration and AD sit Lebo down and tell him he needs to add a top notch recruiter to his staff? If he’s good enough to win the AAC with talent it’s much easier to get a solid young recruiter on staff than it is to hire a new head coach. His coaching skills are really that good? (It's a serious question)

My comment on his coaching was mostly regarding his game management. Though there are some who question his rotations. I thought the other day at Memphis with a tighter rotation it seemed to work better, so there is some validity to it, but he seems to make the right moves in tight games. Problem is to me his enthusiasm and passion are not what it takes to get a downtrodden program over the hump. He seems listless at times.
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