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(01-20-2016 11:04 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Lol, no...it's not division 8 football, but still...

LCC is the only private school in a league with 6 public schools of the same size, roughly. The schools in their conference have enrollments between 500 and 800. LCC has HUGE advantage in this situation. Granted they still have a good program. But it would be like if Notre Dame joined the MAC. The school is actually smaller than MAC schools, but the level of resources is massively in favor of ND. Also, "small town" football is relative. For comparison, Matt Little is from Evanston, the school with 3,500 kids and competes in the tough Chicago suburbs.

Forgive me though, this might be my personal bias shining through. I went to a smaller public school and at times we competed against private schools that were light-years ahead of our own.

lol

"Like Notre Dame joining the MAC?" That's good stuff right there.

Seriously, just stop. One of your own has already pointed out how utterly clueless you are when it comes to the Lansing Catholic program. It's perfectly acceptable to say nothing if you have no knowledge on a given topic.

Thanks.

Stick to what you know Chris...........Traverse City West, Petosky, East Jordan, the Bullough family.

(01-21-2016 08:01 AM)arrows80 Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 11:04 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Lol, no...it's not division 8 football, but still...

LCC is the only private school in a league with 6 public schools of the same size, roughly. The schools in their conference have enrollments between 500 and 800. LCC has HUGE advantage in this situation. Granted they still have a good program. But it would be like if Notre Dame joined the MAC. The school is actually smaller than MAC schools, but the level of resources is massively in favor of ND. Also, "small town" football is relative. For comparison, Matt Little is from Evanston, the school with 3,500 kids and competes in the tough Chicago suburbs.

Forgive me though, this might be my personal bias shining through. I went to a smaller public school and at times we competed against private schools that were light-years ahead of our own.

lol

"Like Notre Dame joining the MAC?" That's good stuff right there.

Seriously, just stop. One of your own has already pointed out how utterly clueless you are when it comes to the Lansing Catholic program. It's perfectly acceptable to say nothing if you have no knowledge on a given topic.

Thanks.

I do know what I'm talking about. LCC is a good program playing inferior competition. It's not some secret that private schools have resources far beyond what the average public school of the same size has. That's why private-school leagues exist.

But hey, thanks for stopping by and saying somebody is wrong without actually refuting anything they're saying. As usual.

(01-21-2016 09:36 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 08:01 AM)arrows80 Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 11:04 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Lol, no...it's not division 8 football, but still...

LCC is the only private school in a league with 6 public schools of the same size, roughly. The schools in their conference have enrollments between 500 and 800. LCC has HUGE advantage in this situation. Granted they still have a good program. But it would be like if Notre Dame joined the MAC. The school is actually smaller than MAC schools, but the level of resources is massively in favor of ND. Also, "small town" football is relative. For comparison, Matt Little is from Evanston, the school with 3,500 kids and competes in the tough Chicago suburbs.

Forgive me though, this might be my personal bias shining through. I went to a smaller public school and at times we competed against private schools that were light-years ahead of our own.

lol

"Like Notre Dame joining the MAC?" That's good stuff right there.

Seriously, just stop. One of your own has already pointed out how utterly clueless you are when it comes to the Lansing Catholic program. It's perfectly acceptable to say nothing if you have no knowledge on a given topic.

Thanks.

I do know what I'm talking about. LCC is a good program playing inferior competition. It's not some secret that private schools have resources far beyond what the average public school of the same size has. That's why private-school leagues exist.

But hey, thanks for stopping by and saying somebody is wrong without actually refuting anything they're saying. As usual.

Ummm, no you really do not. At least not about Lansing Catholic. Sorry, but your emotional bias against your local private school does not fit with ALL private schools and certainly not with Lansing Catholic. Might work for Detroit Country Day and Birmingham Brother Rice, but not too many other places.

Since Schools of Choice was made law in Michigan, public schools have resources available to attract student athletes that often far exceed what a private school can offer. More than 20 percent of the students at both East Lansing and Holt are from the Lansing Public School District. If you were to check their athletic rosters, it would likely be more than 20 percent. Lansing Catholic can't compete with free, and won't.

Also, in the case of Kalamazoo, with the K-zoo Promise, it is even more difficult for a private school to compete.

The CAAC sizes-up very well statewide and has for many years. Inferior competition? Bull.

Bottom-line is WMU would take Poljan, if he was interested, and you and I would be thrilled to have him. Fortunately, WMU has enough depth and talent at QB where it does not need him like CMU does (the Chippewas are desperate).

The fit at CMU is natural with Bonamego having been a teammate of Poljan's father. It is clear he would NOT be heading to Mount Pleasant if Enos was still head coach. But Enos is gone and Fleck actually has some competition (albeit weak competition) from Mount Pleasant.

Give credit where credit is due. Bonamego got a recruit he SHOULD have secured. And Poljan's experience playing in a high caliber high school program, in a strong league, for an outstanding head coach, will serve him well.

Worked for Cooper Rush, didn't it? Rush beat us as a freshman in Waldo...and it still pizzes me off.

I hope Poljan has a good experience at CMU, stay's healthy, and is able to secure a job with a tainted degree from a University with a sub-par academic reputation.

Fair enough, guess I was wrong.

(01-21-2016 11:24 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Fair enough, guess I was wrong.

But remain loved and respected...

(01-21-2016 11:34 AM)GullLake Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 11:24 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Fair enough, guess I was wrong.

But remain loved and respected...

Well that's kind of you to say.

Well, we're heading to the finish line of the "Army Class of 1915" and the anticipated big finish is starting to fizzle out.

Two star DE decommitted for IU yesterday, JC DT that they thought was coming opts for UCF. Mrs. Beesley, a two star BG decomitt is down UT and CMU. They sent out a last minute offer to a DCC kid, but he opted for an FBS school.

Starting to look more like Howe Military Class of 1915

(02-01-2016 08:50 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Well, we're heading to the finish line of the "Army Class of 1915" and the anticipated big finish is starting to fizzle out.

Two star DE decommitted for IU yesterday, JC DT that they thought was coming opts for UCF. Mrs. Beesley, a two star BG decomitt is down UT and CMU. They sent out a last minute offer to a DCC kid, but he opted for an FBS school.

Starting to look more like Howe Military Class of 1915

CMU's poor academic reputation probably plays a role.

I spoke with a parent last weekend who's son is turning down a full-ride "Centralis" scholarship. He wants to attend either Hope (which is offering a significant scholarship, but not full-ride) or MSU. The kid wants nothing to do with CMU.

So much for "You can't beat free."

(02-01-2016 09:28 PM)GullLake Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 08:50 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Well, we're heading to the finish line of the "Army Class of 1915" and the anticipated big finish is starting to fizzle out.

Two star DE decommitted for IU yesterday, JC DT that they thought was coming opts for UCF. Mrs. Beesley, a two star BG decomitt is down UT and CMU. They sent out a last minute offer to a DCC kid, but he opted for an FBS school.

Starting to look more like Howe Military Class of 1915

CMU's poor academic reputation probably plays a role.

I spoke with a parent last weekend who's son is turning down a full-ride "Centralis" scholarship. He wants to attend either Hope (which is offering a significant scholarship, but not full-ride) or MSU. The kid wants nothing to do with CMU.

So much for "You can't beat free."

lol

Poor academic reputation? Interesting. Care to share the details?

Thanks.

CMU? Probably an OK school if you are from Alma or Chesaning or Onaway. But it is kind of isolated and provincial up there. They have a lot of pride, they can Fire Up pretty good at times, but really the options are kind of limited. As the one recruit said, "there's a lot of grass up there."

(02-02-2016 09:05 AM)Dirty Ernie Wrote:  CMU? Probably an OK school if you are from Alma or Chesaning or Onaway. But it is kind of isolated and provincial up there. They have a lot of pride, they can Fire Up pretty good at times, but really the options are kind of limited. As the one recruit said, "there's a lot of grass up there."

This sums it up very well.

WMU students have a wealth of resources located right here in Kalamazoo. Businesses, arts organizations, non-profits, aviation, and so on. Lots of internships and training opportunities...not to mention jobs.

What opportunities are in Mt. Pleasant? How to deal blackjack? How to shuck corn?

Chimps fighting for MCCabes 47th and 50th best players. UT is full, so that opportunity was gone. Chimps by default.

Marquise Smith the 50th ranked player is waivering between three .........he says.

There's a reason this kid has not committed to anyone. He's currently a non-qualifier.

(02-02-2016 10:33 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Chimps fighting for MCCabes 47th and 50th best players. UT is full, so that opportunity was gone. Chimps by default.

Marquise Smith the 50th ranked player is waivering between three .........he says.

There's a reason this kid has not committed to anyone. He's currently a non-qualifier.

Smith chose Cincy.

Just read through the CMU slappy board. Wow. Evidently, they are so good at RB and OL that they don't feel the need to recruit much in those areas. At least that is the story they are trying to tell.

Meanwhile..."If you think you are locked into your position and that I won't recruit someone better to try and unseat you, then you better not sign with us". - Fleck

(02-04-2016 01:18 PM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 10:33 AM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Chimps fighting for MCCabes 47th and 50th best players. UT is full, so that opportunity was gone. Chimps by default.

Marquise Smith the 50th ranked player is waivering between three .........he says.

There's a reason this kid has not committed to anyone. He's currently a non-qualifier.

Smith chose Cincy.

Just read through the CMU slappy board. Wow. Evidently, they are so good at RB and OL that they don't feel the need to recruit much in those areas. At least that is the story they are trying to tell.

Meanwhile..."If you think you are locked into your position and that I won't recruit someone better to try and unseat you, then you better not sign with us". - Fleck

When you have no running game, a poor offensive line, and didn't recruit any o-linemen or RB's, you'd better have 7 QB's on the roster. You're gonna need them cause at least 4 are gonna get hurt!

I respect Bonamego and understand he inherited a mess from Enos, but this recruiting class doesn't appear to address CMU's needs.

Fine by me!

41-39

Let's examine

C Hunter Buckowski- LB two star, no offers. We already got the best player /athlete. from Mt. Pleasant HS in Perry. Buckowski will be a nice addition to the CMU baseball team.

D Bryson Dixon- LB no offers, not even found until the last week.

D Dixon- LB no offers. Found this week. He's either a grey shirt, a no show, or it's a misprint and Bryson and LeBryson are one in the same.

B Bailey Edwards- WR probably a good signing by the current CMU standard of "good."

C Josh Eldridge- DE, no offers, but seems to have good size.

C Kümmel Gwilly- RB, no offers. Runs a 4.6, fits a mold of pedestrian RBs that Bono has brought in the last two years. Size, but limited speed.

D Tee Harvey- WR. No offers, very smallish. Kid was on nobodies radar.

D Austin Hergott- QB no offers. Had a bad senior year. Good measurable so. One of a bazillion QBs brought in by Bono. To quote Bono, "Competition is great." Well then, why no bring in 20 QBs? Your job is to evaluate talent, not waste scholarships, and hope someone pans out.

B Jakkar Jackson- DB offers from Kent and Balls. Comes from a solid HS program.

? Tony Lazzaro- QB No offers. Left HS as an undersized QB. Grew at JC. It's hard to tell with JC QBs. Rival automatically gives 3 stars to JC commits. I suppose with 7 QBs one of them will pan out.

B Alonzo McCoy- DB. An actual recruit with a quality offer from UT. According to Bono they were able to flip him after Cambell left. So in other words, we didn't have a chance until a better recruiter was out of the picture.

A Leon Page- DE. Had offers from Balls, Kent, Eastern, and BG. Looks like a kid who will see the field.

A Tony Poljan- Multiple P5 offers. Accoerding to Bono, the combination of legacy, Rush went to LCC, and wanting to play QB helped secure Poljan. A good get, but not exactly a sign that Bono can recruit. Bottom line is this kid could play other positions if tge QB thing doesn't pan out.

D Jonathan Ward- RB no offers. Undersized RB, avg. speed. Similar to other RBs brought in by Bonomego.

Small class with three players who will contribute in the next couple of years. Poljan, Page, and Edwards. Central lacks depth at DB, so these freshmen will see the field, although with limited impact.

Centrals OL got progressively worse as the year went on, and with this class has added no depth or talent. Added two RBs to a stable of marginally talented backs.

From what I've seen CMU hasn't had a good class since 2012. This class is very similar, with one or two impact players.

After listening to Bono and Fleck on WDFN as well as their press conferences, I simply can't see Bonomego hanging with Fleck in recruiting. It's not a youth thing, or a B.S. thing. It's more a Pete Lembo thing. You've either got the personality to do it or you don't. Bono may have a great football mind, but not be the kind of guy who can sell you convincingly. Fleck may not be a brilliant football mind, but in the end talent is the name of the game, and can cover a lot of other short comings.

Poor Bono. Says he's really out in front of the 2017 class now that he's learned how to use a Twitter account. He wasn't joking,

What's next. An IPod, an upgrade to 3G, video tapes of recruits?

Chips added DE Donte Cleveland. Bono has been on Cleveland since late Tuesday night. Clevelands offers include..........nobody.