(02-18-2016 01:39 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(02-17-2016 11:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  All 11 AD's are united in staying at 8 football league games.

Only 11? Don't we have 12 football playing teams?

Not til Coastal comes on board.

They have a bar graph. Why don't we have a bar graph?

WHERE'S OUR BAR GRAPH????????

I'm surprised the aggies actually took up for Idaho in their presentation

Wow. NMSU is so much better.

(02-18-2016 06:13 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Wow. NMSU is so much better.

NMSU's looks like someone familiar with the concept of salesmanship created it. Idaho's looks like it was cranked out by the accounting department. Par for the course.

NMSU's presentation was good but felt the injury part was a bit whiny. Other than that, great job.

Without the words of our President, its hard to get the feel for Idaho's presentation based off just the slides. The Commissioner reported that both were well done and well received. Geography is the big elephant in the room that the SBC members will have to decide is worth it or not for XXX number of years.

Based on the slides, NMSU looks like they had a great presentation. Especially in terms of an athletic budget and facilities standpoint.

He has a slide that proposed the 2 divisions (east/west) we would naturally think of for a 12 member conference. West: Idaho, NMSU, TSU, ASU, ULM, ULL and East: Geo. Southern, Geo. St., App. St., Troy, USA, and Coastal Car.

What do you think the possibility/likelihood of such divisions being created? When? Would it happen immediately when Coastal is on board?

The upside of such a conference offsets the downside IMO. With 12 teams not only do SBC teams get to schedule more (and hopefully beat) OOC G5 teams, but they don't beat up each other by having to play each other as much. The name of the game for G5 conferences is to be better than the other G5's and get a bigger piece of the pie from the CFP money. I think the SBC is poised to start flexing their muscle a little against other G5's.

(02-18-2016 06:26 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  NMSU's presentation was good but felt the injury part was a bit whiny. Other than that, great job.

And calling out the freshman kicker like that...

(02-18-2016 06:13 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Wow. NMSU is so much better.

Boise state fans Hope Idaho drops to FCS .
The state props them up at Idaho's expense and the Big 12 calls.
Being FCS hasn't stopped Idaho St from being a better school than BSU.


Besides showing the divisions how did they promote Idaho?

I might have missed something it was hard to read on my phone.

I thought the schools should work together and pull for NMSU.

(02-18-2016 03:33 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 03:29 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  Here's Idaho's power point presentation. It's kinda awful.

https://t.co/oSW84Wrk9x

That is pretty weak. Idaho better get ready for the Big Sky.

mwctx, it's clear that you're a bozo state fan and your loathing of all things University of Idaho runs deep. Keep up the hate.

I personally do not care for PP presentations that are overdone visually. I like succinct bullet points and prefer to rely on the presenter to convey the information. I like the base information in the Vandal slide deck and being that the presentation lasted ~45 minutes one would believe that the bullets were thoroughly expanded upon by the Dr. Staben in order to make a compelling case for an extension. I guess now we wait and see?

To be fair to Idaho's PowerPoint, this is not a mass marketing document. This went to college presidents and ADs. Some of the facts are not favorable to Idaho/NMSU, and to ignore them or gloss over them during the presentation would have been unwise.
I do appreciate that they at least attempted to tackle the biggest objections the other schools might have as well as they could.

I'm just going to give our guy the benefit of the doubt and assume he used these slides as a jumping-off point during the presentation.

What's more important to the SBC members?
1. At team that is not dragging down the SBC and is on the rise to help win more OOC games against other G5 opponents in order to position the SBC better in rank to the other G5's in distributing the CFP money; OR
2. An athletic budget as compared to the other SBC schools, and the upgrades to its football facilities.

Idaho was basically arguing #1 and NMSU was pointing out #2. Both are important in my perspective.
There really isn't anything more UI or NMSU can do about the geograpical travel issue. Subsidies are already being paid and it is what it is. If in the end, the SBC members want that to be the reason for not extending then there really wasn't anything either UI or NMSU could have done or said in their presentations to change that.

Even though it is possible to extend one and not the other, I think they either both get extensions or both don't.

(02-19-2016 02:07 PM)VandyBen Wrote:  What's more important to the SBC members?
1. At team that is not dragging down the SBC and is on the rise to help win more OOC games against other G5 opponents in order to position the SBC better in rank to the other G5's in distributing the CFP money; OR
2. An athletic budget as compared to the other SBC schools, and the upgrades to its football facilities.

Idaho was basically arguing #1 and NMSU was pointing out #2. Both are important in my perspective.
There really isn't anything more UI or NMSU can do about the geograpical travel issue. Subsidies are already being paid and it is what it is. If in the end, the SBC members want that to be the reason for not extending then there really wasn't anything either UI or NMSU could have done or said in their presentations to change that.

Even though it is possible to extend one and not the other, I think they either both get extensions or both don't.

I think NMSU's presentation was more: We are committed to FBS football (and here is the proof) and here's how we think we can add value to the SBC (by producing HD football broadcasts, and providing ad revenue opportunities to the visiting schools on those broadcasts).

I agree, it doesn't make much sense that one of the schools would be extended and the other not.

The funniest result would be if the presidents finally decide to kick GSU out for losing to Charlotte.