(01-13-2016 10:34 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Somebody explain why any Conference (that includes the Cusa) Commissioner would ever vote for allowing a 10 team conference to hold a championship game when it only benefits one conference, the Big 12! They already make far more Money per team than they deserve and it does not benefit anybody else!

Stability. G5 all get hurt with expansion, though individual teams benefit.

(01-14-2016 08:52 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Oklahoma is still not satisfied. Think they may bolt at some point to either the SEC or Big 10?


OU news

"Brady Vardeman, Sports Editor | Updated 14 hours ago

OU President David Boren said the Big 12 is disadvantaged compared to other conferences because it does not have at least 12 members, a conference network and a conference championship game in a statement to The Daily Wednesday.

"The Big 12 is disadvantaged when compared to the other conferences in three ways. We do not have at least twelve members, we do not have a conference network, and we do not have a championship game. I think that all three of these disadvantages need to be addressed at the same time. Addressing only one without addressing all three will not be adequate to improve the strength of the conference," the statement read.

Boren's comments came after the NCAA reached a compromise to deregulate conference championship games Wednesday, allowing FBS conferences to hold title games with fewer than 12 members."

I think Oklahoma's been grumpy for a while.. they've wanted the PAC or SEC opportunity for a long time, and they're just letting it be known they're tired of being seen as Texas's "baby brother" in the conference.

So the new rule is the following which to me says that even a conference of 8 or 9 could do this:

The following was adopted with the Council's vote:
One conference championship football game conducted in either of the following ways:

i) A game between division champions of a member conference that is divided into two divisions (as equally balanced as possible), each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division; or,

ii) A game between the top two teams in the conference standings following a full round-robin regular-season schedule of competition among all members of the conference.

I think this means the end of expansion with the P5 conference (depending on OU), however I still think the G5 members will do some swapping around for better geographical sense that will be ultimately driven by budgets to save on travel costs.

On a side note, I wonder if UConn would drop football and move all remaining sports to the Big East since bball drives the bus for them. UConn has been one of the biggest losers in all of the conference shuffling.

(01-14-2016 07:49 AM)BKTopper Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:31 PM)MU42 Wrote:  So FIU, Charlotte, UTSA, and North Texas could be removed and we could still have a championship? Sign us up for that.

I know, I'm an *******. But you guys suck really bad and do so 98% of the time, or you should have never been invited. This just fixes that.

And then Rice leaves and we're out of Tx?

To be clear, I'm not saying I support contraction, but why is staying in Texas important to you? Not a single Texas born player on your 2015 roster.

(01-14-2016 10:42 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  I think this means the end of expansion with the P5 conference (depending on OU), however I still think the G5 members will do some swapping around for better geographical sense that will be ultimately driven by budgets to save on travel costs.

On a side note, I wonder if UConn would drop football and move all remaining sports to the Big East since bball drives the bus for them. UConn has been one of the biggest losers in all of the conference shuffling.

is predictable as people 0'day bend over in prison when they feel like they don't belong....

state legislature fellers should be pounding tables right now....

this whole thing as it plays out is a part of a bigger picture than just being about 'football games'....

it scares me when I extrapolate.....and iMO, defines line 1 of sig to a 'T'

(01-14-2016 10:42 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  I think this means the end of expansion with the P5 conference (depending on OU), however I still think the G5 members will do some swapping around for better geographical sense that will be ultimately driven by budgets to save on travel costs.

On a side note, I wonder if UConn would drop football and move all remaining sports to the Big East since bball drives the bus for them. UConn has been one of the biggest losers in all of the conference shuffling.

You are right...UCONN is in a difficult spot now. I cant imagine they would drop football though.

(01-14-2016 11:17 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 10:42 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  I think this means the end of expansion with the P5 conference (depending on OU), however I still think the G5 members will do some swapping around for better geographical sense that will be ultimately driven by budgets to save on travel costs.

On a side note, I wonder if UConn would drop football and move all remaining sports to the Big East since bball drives the bus for them. UConn has been one of the biggest losers in all of the conference shuffling.

You are right...UCONN is in a difficult spot now. I cant imagine they would drop football though.

yanks showing weakness????.....not a chance....

and you guys are right....

cincy has to be pissed off too at this point....

MEM gets screwed also (in where I saw them headed)

what dice this has become.....

(01-14-2016 10:26 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  ii) A game between the top two teams in the conference standings following a full round-robin regular-season schedule of competition among all members of the conference.

This will be fun to watch. I can't wait for the first year that three Big 12 teams are all 8-1 in conference. I wonder how West Virginia and Iowa State will respond if that Big 12 championship game is established in Dallas. Or if the championship game is played at the location of the team with the best record, when 8-1 Oklahoma loses a close regular season game in Waco, but has to go back to Texas for the championship game because Baylor was 9-0.

(01-14-2016 08:52 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Oklahoma is still not satisfied. Think they may bolt at some point to either the SEC or Big 10?


OU news

"Brady Vardeman, Sports Editor | Updated 14 hours ago

OU President David Boren said the Big 12 is disadvantaged compared to other conferences because it does not have at least 12 members, a conference network and a conference championship game in a statement to The Daily Wednesday.

"The Big 12 is disadvantaged when compared to the other conferences in three ways. We do not have at least twelve members, we do not have a conference network, and we do not have a championship game. I think that all three of these disadvantages need to be addressed at the same time. Addressing only one without addressing all three will not be adequate to improve the strength of the conference," the statement read.

Boren's comments came after the NCAA reached a compromise to deregulate conference championship games Wednesday, allowing FBS conferences to hold title games with fewer than 12 members."

I don't get it...2 of the 3 things he wants can now be addressed going forward...that SHOULD make him happy-ish

(01-14-2016 02:52 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:52 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Oklahoma is still not satisfied. Think they may bolt at some point to either the SEC or Big 10?


OU news

"Brady Vardeman, Sports Editor | Updated 14 hours ago

OU President David Boren said the Big 12 is disadvantaged compared to other conferences because it does not have at least 12 members, a conference network and a conference championship game in a statement to The Daily Wednesday.

"The Big 12 is disadvantaged when compared to the other conferences in three ways. We do not have at least twelve members, we do not have a conference network, and we do not have a championship game. I think that all three of these disadvantages need to be addressed at the same time. Addressing only one without addressing all three will not be adequate to improve the strength of the conference," the statement read.

Boren's comments came after the NCAA reached a compromise to deregulate conference championship games Wednesday, allowing FBS conferences to hold title games with fewer than 12 members."

I don't get it...2 of the 3 things he wants can now be addressed going forward...that SHOULD make him happy-ish

there's this game....played on a arced field....but it's the flat land thinking that yields the flat line....

I hope the dust bowl revisits and somehow chokes that espenis hierarchy more so than their failure to plan long term......

I have zero sympathy for anyone at this point......

(01-13-2016 11:31 PM)MU42 Wrote:  So FIU, Charlotte, UTSA, and North Texas could be removed and we could still have a championship? Sign us up for that.

I know, I'm an *******. But you guys suck really bad and do so 98% of the time, or you should have never been invited. This just fixes that.

Bless your heart, that polluted Huntington water must have finally gotten your brain.

(01-13-2016 11:31 PM)MU42 Wrote:  So FIU, Charlotte, UTSA, and North Texas could be removed and we could still have a championship? Sign us up for that.

I know, I'm an *******. But you guys suck really bad and do so 98% of the time, or you should have never been invited. This just fixes that.

Yes, because everybody wants Marshall right?

(01-13-2016 11:31 PM)MU42 Wrote:  So FIU, Charlotte, UTSA, and North Texas could be removed and we could still have a championship? Sign us up for that.

I know, I'm an *******. But you guys suck really bad and do so 98% of the time, or you should have never been invited. This just fixes that.

But where would the Marshall fans with jobs go to watch the Herd if you did not come to Charlotte to play?

(01-14-2016 03:44 PM)wh49er Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:31 PM)MU42 Wrote:  So FIU, Charlotte, UTSA, and North Texas could be removed and we could still have a championship? Sign us up for that.

I know, I'm an *******. But you guys suck really bad and do so 98% of the time, or you should have never been invited. This just fixes that.

Bless your heart, that polluted Huntington water must have finally gotten your brain.

lmao....it hasn't made it that far south.....

kudos to that reference.....

(01-14-2016 03:59 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  But where would the Marshall fans with jobs go to watch the Herd if you did not come to Charlotte to play?

Selling meth down in the big city of Charleston isn't a job?

(01-13-2016 07:43 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Big 12 has successfully fought for the right to hold a title game in a league with fewer than 12 members. This is one of the biggest nut kicks ever. This rule was responsible for the vast majority of football realignment since the late 80's. It's a big reason why Utah and Colorado are in the Pac 12. It's why Arkansas and South Carolina are in the SEC. It's a reason why C-USA ever went to 12 and started divisions.

Now it just gets easily overturned in hopes the Big 12 won't expand. Insane. If it had been overturned years ago, the college football landscape would look completely different.

It's absolutely F-ain't ridiculous and you can thank Gunkle Mouth Ollie Luck for it too. So the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Pac 12, CUSA, MTN WEST, ,MAC, & AAC all had to go to 12 but the Big 12 doesn't?

It's the most ridiculous BS decision ever made. It's a dirty underhanded deal.
PURE

(01-14-2016 08:06 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 07:43 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Big 12 has successfully fought for the right to hold a title game in a league with fewer than 12 members. This is one of the biggest nut kicks ever. This rule was responsible for the vast majority of football realignment since the late 80's. It's a big reason why Utah and Colorado are in the Pac 12. It's why Arkansas and South Carolina are in the SEC. It's a reason why C-USA ever went to 12 and started divisions.

Now it just gets easily overturned in hopes the Big 12 won't expand. Insane. If it had been overturned years ago, the college football landscape would look completely different.

It's absolutely F-ain't ridiculous and you can thank Gunkle Mouth Ollie Luck for it too. So the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Pac 12, CUSA, MTN WEST, ,MAC, & AAC all had to go to 12 but the Big 12 doesn't?

It's the most ridiculous BS decision ever made. It's a dirty underhanded deal.
PURE

No, those conferences didn't have to go to 12 games for a CG. There was never a rule nor guidelines established to play a CG. The SEC went to 12 teams and decided to play a CG. When the B1G saw that it was profitable, they decided to copy the SEC.

Blaming realignment doesn't make sense. The SEC, ACC, Pac 12, Big10, MAC, Sun Belt and most likely CUSA & MTN WEST had nothing to worry about. Rumors would point to the AAC for Houston (LOL) & Memphis (basketball) and UCONN (basketball). Cincinatti (Biggest LOL of all).

So they take 2 of those that means AAC needs 2 more so they then go. So essentially 2 conferences that are irrelevant (AAC & most likely CUSA) have the most to lose. If you honestly think the decision was made based on that you're nuts.

(01-14-2016 08:13 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:06 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 07:43 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...title-game

Big 12 has successfully fought for the right to hold a title game in a league with fewer than 12 members. This is one of the biggest nut kicks ever. This rule was responsible for the vast majority of football realignment since the late 80's. It's a big reason why Utah and Colorado are in the Pac 12. It's why Arkansas and South Carolina are in the SEC. It's a reason why C-USA ever went to 12 and started divisions.

Now it just gets easily overturned in hopes the Big 12 won't expand. Insane. If it had been overturned years ago, the college football landscape would look completely different.

It's absolutely F-ain't ridiculous and you can thank Gunkle Mouth Ollie Luck for it too. So the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Pac 12, CUSA, MTN WEST, ,MAC, & AAC all had to go to 12 but the Big 12 doesn't?

It's the most ridiculous BS decision ever made. It's a dirty underhanded deal.
PURE

No, those conferences didn't have to go to 12 games for a CG. There was never a rule nor guidelines established to play a CG. The SEC went to 12 teams and decided to play a CG. When the B1G saw that it was profitable, they decided to copy the SEC.

So what year was the 12 team conf championship rule established?